81 Comments - FLEA - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:32 am: Speaking from one side …..45 reasons to vote against her. Good day. - Saluki - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:34 am: Harold is the real deal. Dem’s better get their act together quickly. - Steve - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:34 am: That’s a long and impressive list. It will be most interesting to see the Democrats endorsements on their side of the aisle. - 47th Ward - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:35 am: Wow, I was impressed that Durkin endorsed her at City Club yesterday, but wondered if maybe he might change his mind if another candidate jumped in. Apparently not. This list must have been in the works for some time. Good for Team Harold. They have their stuff together. Very impressive. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:38 am: With Secretary of State, Comptroller, and Treasurer still “wide open” with no announced candidates… … with Trump headwinds, Rauner a the top of the ticket… If Harold wants to take the statewide loss, let her(?) - Freezeup - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:38 am: Rich- I would love to see some discussion of what Rauner can do with pensions and collective bargaining with a republican AG that he could not with LM in that position. It is pretty obvious that this office is important to the Governor. Probably a topic for another day but I have been wondering about this since the LM announcement and did not see any speculation in any of the comments. - hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:46 am: What does the “real deal” mean, Saluki? - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:46 am: Willy Im seriously dying to know why you believe this is an automatic loss? How can we trust your judgement on this one when last week you told me several times that the GOP would drop Erika and someone else would reveal themselves? Could it possibly be that all of those who fought with me last week about someone else stepping up are afraid that the GOP has found an outstanding political outsider who will revitalize the office after years of Madigan insider stink? but what do I know… - Chris P. Bacon - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:47 am: Adorable watching mostly dull, aging men of little accomplishment rushing to wrap themselves in the wholesome goodness of a real star like former Miss America Erika Harold. She’s got a real chance to win - if the deadwood of the IL GOP doesn’t drag her down. - Can - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:48 am: That’s quite a list. I bet she holds the Democratic AG candidate to just 56% in the general. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:50 am: ==an outstanding political outsider== Her political CV is losing the ‘12 Kingsmoot for Davis’ seat and the ‘14 primary for Davis’ seat. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:50 am: Iggy. A question that answers itself. - hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:53 am: The reason I ask the “real deal” question Saluki is that I encountered Erika in a non-political setting a couple of months before she announced her run and she didn’t exude the sort of charisma or swagger I was expecting from a former Miss America or aspiring politician. Maybe she is different on the stump though? Even though our politics differ, if a Republican has to take over I’d rather it be a female and a Downstater to balance things out so good for her that they are not going to railroad her like they did for the sake of Rodney Davis. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:54 am: No, - Iggy -… ===Could it possibly be that all of those who fought with me last week about someone else stepping up are afraid that the GOP has found an outstanding political outsider who will revitalize the office after years of Madigan insider stink?=== Yeah, where’s the SoS, Treasurer, and Comptroller candidates? Sometimes, even with a 20+ year window when the GOP closed that idea of taking on Jim Ryan or Birkett and then token candidates… let Harold lose another race. Why fight the Trump and Rauner headwinds, and do it without SoS, Comproller or Treasurer running mates. Harold isn’t any juggernaut that strikes fear, and even with Rauner backing her, things aren’t looking great for GOP statewide wins right now. Let Harold take the loss. Then she can be like Oberweis… - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:54 am: ==Willy Im seriously dying to know why you believe this is an automatic loss?== I wouldn’t call it an “automatic loss”, but it’s an open seat in a state that puts a thump on the scale for Democrats in a midterm with a Republican in the White House. In such a situation, just a Generic D vs. Generic R race is probably pretty good for the former. Her best hope is that the Democrats nominate a real dud, and hey, we might oblige. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:55 am: ==political CV is losing the ‘12 Kingsmoot== Anyone with half a finger on the pulse of central illinois politics will tell you that she was not ready for prime time and that she mostly ran with the push of a few gop voices. Now she is running with the entire statewide GOP team behind her. please dont be so dim you can’t recognize the difference. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:55 am: I don’t know if the Rauner folks are running her press shop…but she may want to learn how to spell Tim Bivins’ name. I don’t want my state lawyer making simple mistakes like that. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:57 am: ==Harold isn’t any juggernaut that strikes fear== I *basically* agree with this, but I also don’t think Lisa Madigan got out because she wanted to catch up on Game of Thrones. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:57 am: ===Now she is running with the entire statewide GOP team behind her.=== lol Ask former Comptroller Munger how that worked out. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:58 am: ==Anyone with half a finger on the pulse of central illinois politics will tell you that she was not ready for prime time and that she mostly ran with the push of a few gop voices.== In which case, her demonstrated political instincts are so poor that she ran before she was ready. - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:58 am: Erika Harold ran for Congress in 2014 - not in 2012. She has only run for office one other time. Once. I still wish she had run against Carol Ammons in 2014 or Scott Bennett in 2016 but I digress. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:59 am: ==her best hope is that the Democrats nominate a real dud, and hey, we might oblige.== It is looking that way. Hopefully the democrats dont hang their hat on Kwame or Drury. that would just be sad. - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:00 am: “With Secretary of State, Comptroller, and Treasurer still “wide open” with no announced candidates…” In what cartoon world does this make sense? Erika Harold checks all the boxes. She has the party’s full support. She’ll have plenty of money. Not to mention the Rauner ground game behind her. Remember that one? The one you told everyone didn’t exist? She currently has no opponent, and is raking up the endorsements left and right. But because nobody is going to run against Jesse White for the kabillionith time…. that means that Harold is going to lose? This is not your best work, Willy. - Swift - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:00 am: A bit of a no-brainer for endorsing, what do they have to lose be endorsing an African American female for the AG. It’s the whole “I have a black friend” response when being called a racist. If Harold wins great, if she loses they still have the endorsement to point to. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:00 am: -Yeah, where’s the SoS, Treasurer, and Comptroller candidates?- What purpose do these offices really add minus the patronage positions? A friendly Comptroller would be nice, but isnt necessary. With focusing on two statewide candidates plus house races, ilgop isn’t spreading resources so thin. -Ask former Comptroller Munger how that worked out.- Anyone truly on the inside knows this was not the case. Also, these anti Trump headwinds really worked out in those congressional races. - Reaganing - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:01 am: Sorry Amon at 10:00 was me - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:01 am: ==Erika Harold ran for Congress in 2014 - not in 2012.== She put her name in for that weird confab when Johnson got out of the race late. By most accounts she was one of the finalists. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:01 am: ==Ask former Comptroller Munger how that worked out.== LOL, Willy, come on! Munger was given money but very little field support. Her campaign was Ads and no susbtance. where were all the Rauner bodies during 16? they were out in the field backing state rep and senate races. There was almost zero cross over of Rauner bodies supporting Mungers re election. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:04 am: ===In what cartoon world does this make sense=== Headwinds… Keep up ===She has the party’s full support.=== So did Munger… as an incumbent. ===She currently has no opponent, and is raking up the endorsements left and right.=== Why take the loss. Let Harold. As to Rauner? Rauner is now polling 63% disapproval. Not seeing a groundswell of support. ===that means that Harold is going to lose?=== No one wants to take on Frerichs? Mendoza? Hmmm. - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:04 am: Arsenal - that was not a normal process. I think that was the GOP equivalent of what the Dems are doing now in the AG’s race (i.e. everyone and their siblings are interested). - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:05 am: Drury is a dud, Kwame, not so much. Drury would be a gift, but… the headwinds. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:07 am: ===Anyone truly on the inside knows this was not the case.=== Munger won? lol - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:07 am: ==Arsenal - that was not a normal process.== Never claimed it was. But if we’re painting Harold as some genius political newcomer, it’s worth pointing out that she’s neither. ==I think that was the GOP equivalent of what the Dems are doing now in the AG’s race (i.e. everyone and their siblings are interested).== Except that a) the Dems only have one announced candidate; and b) they’re gonna hold a primary. (Although I think Johnson “retired” AFTER the ‘12 primary? So the Republicans were kinda stuck?) - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:08 am: can you trust Kwame to not lose his temper in public for the next several months, or stop referring to Ms. Harold as Ms. America? I don’t see either of those situations happening. A short fused Sexist isnt a good look for the Dems. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:08 am: ===Also, these anti Trump headwinds really worked out in those congressional races.=== We’re those in states Clinton won? - Bigtwich - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:09 am: So 45 members of the powerful political class are endorsing Erika Herold to fight for reforms that will put the people ahead of the powerful political class? - Anonymous - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:10 am: - the headwinds - Which are where? You cite rauner approval ratings, how did that affect incumbent house and Senate candidates in 2016 with trump actually on the ballot? 2018 no trump, voter turnout in off years has been trending down a long time. Also, what evidence do you have the full state wide gop was behind hunger? They ran a bunch of ads? I’m not sure how that is “full support.” - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:12 am: If you think Harold can be Kwame then you do. Harold will be running with Rauner and Trump dragging the ticket… … in a state Clinton won by 17 points. - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:12 am: Sorry Willy. You’re in no place to be telling anybody to “keep up.” On Friday you were just incredulous that the party would back Harold full-stop, because of how highly coveted this office was and is. Now you’re telling us that nobody even wants it. How can we “keep up” when you can’t even get your story straight? - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:15 am: - Jack Kemp - Maybe letting Harold take a loss with an empty GOP slate made more sense than the frustration of not having a having a chance to run for 20+ years. The algebra now might just be… “Why lose?” - Fax Machine - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:15 am: Rauner pledged to only do 2 terms (if he wins & gets a good remap I have a hard time believing him, but let’s assume he sticks to it) By fully getting behind Erika Harold fot AG you wonder if he believes she will be his candidate for Governor in 2022 assuming they both win in 2018. Does Rauner see her as the face of post-Rauner Raunerism? - Reaganing - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:16 am: OW - where is your evidence to support your assume the turnout in a presidential year to boost Clinton to 17 points over Trump will be there in an off cycle. Also, if you truly believe Munger had a fully funded and staffed campaign, you are not the insider you pretend to be. - Graduated College Student - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:20 am: ===Anyone with half a finger on the pulse of central illinois politics will tell you that she was not ready for prime time and that she mostly ran with the push of a few gop voices. Now she is running with the entire statewide GOP team behind her. please dont be so dim you can’t recognize the difference.=== It could also be the statewide GOP is taking a collective stance of “better her than me” and they don’t want to be seen as carrying the water statewide for Bruce Rauner, which seems like a poor career strategy long term. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:22 am: SO just to be clear you guys have gone from someone else is better and will push erika out to, shes just the fall guy destined to lose. thats a fun turnaround you did there. I guess we will just have to wait and see who emerges from the heaping pit of dems interested in running for this one. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:24 am: I’ll be back in a bit. Apologies. - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:26 am: Arsenal - you are correct that Tim Johnson quit after the primary. He worked with Congressman Shimkus to clear any serious primary challengers and then dropped out in May 2012. That put the GOP in a tough spot. That “race” in 2012 started slow and then at one point there were 10-15 viable candidates to replace Tim Johnson on the ballot. The process and jockeying was something to behold. - A guy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:30 am: Willy, are you talking about “head winds” because you’re experiencing them, or because it’s common wisdom heretofore? It’s petition time, and many PCs are out there. For me; I’m not hearing the Trump stuff, and it’s almost eerie how little I hear about the Governor (his relevance is very much in question in that people aren’t voicing either way on him) I don’t think that’s a great sign at all. But the Madigan stuff is sticking and pretty dramatic out there. He has no anonymity anymore. I know it’s a cliche around here, but the “because Madigan” theme is pretty strong. Lisa leaving the race heightened that (i.e. Wrong Madigan leaving) I’m not suggesting a banner year for the GOP, but I’m not picking up this “headwind” theory we always hear about. This one, for me, is shaping up as a big series of localized battles. No one’s in love with either party. It’s about your guy or your gal this time around. That’s what I’m hearing. - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:39 am: I get not running anyone against Mendoza and especially against White. Mendoza has acquitted herself well and White is as unbeatable as anyone I have ever seen. But to not run anyone against Frerichs is nuts. I know the Senate GOP is facing an insanely high amount of members up for reelection but finding someone mid-term - especially if you promise to pony up some $$$ - should be somewhat enticing. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:51 am: ==especially if you promise to pony up some $$$== But therein lies the rub, right? We all like to talk about Rauner like he can throw basically unlimited funds at every race, but he probably won’t. He’s going to need every penny he can spend for his own race, frankly. - JoeMaddon - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:53 am: I am really impressed that the only Republican candidate for AG is lining up endorsements from Republican elected officials. Impressive. Also, questions: - No Bill Brady on the list? A bit odd. - Do they not know how to sort by alphabetical order? That’s just annoying. - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 10:58 am: Arsenal - and that might be why Erika Harold is THE choice. Rauner may only want to support one other statewide candidate. Who knows. Yes - he will need the lion’s share of whatever he has allocated. My main thing is whether Rauner is going hard after House and Senate races. I have heard that he is not - but who knows. That may change based on who wins the Dem gubernatorial primary. - 47th Ward - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 11:02 am: ===No Bill Brady on the list? A bit odd.=== More interesting to me is that Peter Breen isn’t on the list either. Is he considering his own run for AG? - DarkHorse - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 11:38 am: Either by luck or design, the two areas where Harold showed real weakness in 2014 - fundraising and building an organization - are presumably addressed (via Rauner’s money and a unified GOP behind her). She’s way too conservative for my taste, but especially if you’re a Dem, you’re fooling yourself if you think she doesn’t have a shot here. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 11:42 am: ==Rauner may only want to support one other statewide candidate. == That’s my bet. And look, if you can only pick one, AG’s the one to pick. - Retired Educator - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 11:44 am: When Rauner takes his dive off the spring board back to the private sector, Ms. Harold will be taken with him. She is already speaking Raunerese. It will not bode well for her. - walker - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 12:00 pm: A Guy: respect for getting out to the doors again. Just a thought: You’re likely not targeting “D” households for R petition signatures. We’re hearing a lot about Trump and Rauner as the problems, in our canvassing. This “field” knowledge during petition gathering means next to nothing. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 12:35 pm: I apologize for leaving, needed a lil “churching up” ===SO just to be clear you guys have gone from someone else is better and will push erika out to, shes just the fall guy destined to lose. thats a fun=== That’s what happens when a fluid situation like the multi-term AG decides to not seek re-election, something no one saw coming. The fluidity of the last 36-54 hours makes things change. This idea that I’m some insider, as a measure of my knowledge of lack there of is a bit troubling. ===where is your evidence to support your assume the turnout in a presidential year to boost Clinton to 17 points over Trump will be there in an off cycle.=== If I could see into the future, do you think I’d waste that gift on election turnouts? Are you saying a higher turnout hurts? Not the best way to seem in tune with voters, wanting a suppressed turnout, but “ok” I appreciate the patience today. Sincerely. OW - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 12:37 pm: - A Guy - 1) Lisa wasn’t afraid of Harold. 2) Even with “because Madigan”, Rauner is polling 63% disapproval. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 12:46 pm: ===Munger was given money but very little field support. Her campaign was Ads and no susbtance. where were all the Rauner bodies during 16? they were out in the field backing state rep and senate races. There was almost zero cross over of Rauner bodies supporting Mungers re election=== To this, and the logistics… You can’t spend the money they did and focus as they did, and outspend as they did… then say they lacked. “We outspent and tried to outmaneuver with the leverage as an incumbent but we were lacking.” Hmmm. - honeybadger - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 1:23 pm: Not a real big surprise that she has been endorsed by every elected GOP/Raunerite. Meh… - walker - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:11 pm: Iggy: You provide an interesting insider’s perspective on what was lacking in Munger’s race. Appreciate it. Just that we didn’t see much, if any, of the Rauner field troops diverted to local State Rep or Senate candidates. Agree that Munger got out-campaigned, despite having big money to spend. She also got outworked in her race against Sente. Hard to use Munger’s loss as symbolic or predictive either way. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:18 pm: Are any Republicans other than Rauner and Harold running for statewide office? Are they waiting for a nod from the Boss? - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:19 pm: @walker - “we didn’t see much, if any” You must not have had your eyes open. The 2016 Statehouse races were run almost entirely by Rauner staffers. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:22 pm: ===You must not have had your eyes open. The 2016 Statehouse races were run almost entirely by Rauner staffers.=== Holy Guacamole, Munger had her own staff… Are you saying they were grossly inept? I’ll get a bag of chips and wait for your answer. - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:26 pm: Willy, if Munger had a staff to speak of, I’m unaware of it. But hey, I’m no “insider,” so what do I know? I’m just not sure how that has anything at all to do with what I said in that post you quoted. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:33 pm: Munger had a campaign manager, or who did Mendoza send that care package to after. I’m just confused, what eyes were closed to what exactly? You may want to recalibrate who you think is inside and outside, lol - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:39 pm: I honestly have no clue what you are on about. Go back and read. Walker @2:11pm said “we didn’t see much, if any, of the Rauner field troops diverted to local…candidates.” I was simply pointing out that that is completely untrue. There was a Rauner staffer on almost every one of those races. What that has to do with Munger, I haven’t the foggiest. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:40 pm: the Munger team had some good hard working people. Some of them were former Rauner folks in 14. some of them were Munger staff members who took a leave of absence to work on her campaign. However most of the folks who took leaves from the govs office were deployed into the field for house and senate races. In my personal opinion the ILGOP realized that it would be hard for statewide Republicans to win in a year that Donald Trump was at the top of the ticket. So they kicked Leslie some cash, made sure she was on the airwaves but they did not go balls to the walls for her. I have been a part of balls to the walls campaigning and that did not happen. the fact that Munger lost by so few points in a state where Hilary cleaned up says some very nice good things about the people that helped Munger. One might ask what would have happened had the true man power been dedicated to this race? Could it have been won, or was the top of the ticket just too much of a drag to over come? - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:41 pm: ===How can we trust your judgement=== Who trust my judgement. Everyone has an opinion, me as well. Making it about me isn’t making an argument. To that argument after you wavy it framed on the premise of discrediting me, lol… ===when last week you told me several times that the GOP would drop Erika and someone else would reveal themselves=== I wanted to address this seperate. Like Dart running… or Hynes running… or any number of speculative thoughts to a true, old school bombshell. Now, “let Harold lose” makes sense, given that we are still waiting for opponents for Frerichs and Mendoza, and this is an open seat. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:47 pm: Since we are jumping around from a conversation from several hours ago how was your Churching, willy? - Curl of the Burl - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:48 pm: Rauner had a higher percentage of his staffers helping out Avery Bourne than anyone else - including Munger. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:50 pm: ===the Munger team had some good hard working people. Some of them were former Rauner folks in 14. some of them were Munger staff members who took a leave of absence to work on her campaign. However most of the folks who took leaves from the govs office were deployed into the field for house and senate races.=== Are you politely saying… “They had people. Grossly inept people, but they had people.”? Left handed compliments are better than this, lol ===In my personal opinion the ILGOP realized that it would be hard for statewide Republicans to win in a year that Donald Trump was at the top of the ticket. So they kicked Leslie some cash, made sure she was on the airwaves but they did not go balls to the walls for her.=== Adorbs. Let’s break this down. “In my personal opinion” Oh boy…. “the ILGOP realized that it would be hard for statewide Republicans to win in a year that Donald Trump was at the top of the ticket.” Trump will be at his midterm. Same. Harold will have Rauner running too. Running right now at 63% disapproval. What’s different? ===So they kicked Leslie some cash…=== Some cash? They outspent Mendoza by millions. Millions. Some cash. That’s cute. ===made sure she was on the airwaves but they did not go balls to the walls for her.=== So they conceded to Mendoza? Holy Guacamole. You outspend, you have an incumbent, you have all these superstars… and Harold will get the “Top” players or “Munger” players… Trump is in the midterm, Rauner running too… Let Harold run, throw her some money, the top people will be running statehouse or Rauner’s campaign… LOL This… ===I have been a part of balls to the walls campaigning and that did not happen. the fact that Munger lost by so few points in a state where Hilary cleaned up says some very nice good things about the people that helped Munger=== “Of all the losing canpaigns, this one list too”. Yikes. === Could it have been won, or was the top of the ticket just too much of a drag to over come?=== Harold should be asking herself this everyday, given now now one wants to run against her and ALL this support? - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:52 pm: ===Since we are jumping around from a conversation from several hours ago how was your Churching=== When you are Churching on a Wednesday, it’s a melancholy sadness kinda churching. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 2:58 pm: - Iggy - ‘Tween us… I appreciate your position, I even appreciate being called out and having to defend a thought or an opinion. That’s what makes this place great. No place like it in Illinois. What gets me is trying to make an argument counter that may seem like a shill thing off what that commenter could believe is my alleged credibility is now to be discredited to gin up some other credibility. That’s all. With respect, bud. - Iggy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 3:01 pm: sorry to hear willy, although I did enjoy your use of the word churching, gave me a chuckle as I will be “Synagoging” this evening. Anyways fantastic retort to the previous post. Honestly it was a little long for my liking. So ill try to shoot for more brevity in the future so you don’t need to exhaust us with your analysis. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 3:03 pm: ===more brevity in the future so you don’t need to exhaust us with your analysis=== You could always ignore what I say. You won’t be the first. :) - A guy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 3:21 pm: ==- A Guy - 1) Lisa wasn’t afraid of Harold. 2) Even with “because Madigan”, Rauner is polling 63% disapproval.== 1) Never said or even implied she was. Apparently Harold isn’t afraid of Lisa either? 2) Because Madigan is polling even higher. I’d hazzard to guess…a lot higher. To my friend Walk, we respectfully disagree on input with petitions. Dems aren’t nearly as critical of the “home team” as GOPers are. Believe me, I don’t consider that a strength. Also, depending on the candidate, if you’re not anticipating a primary or a very serious one; it’s wise to go to “less” partisan households for signatures. It takes more time, but it’s a heck of a lot more helpful to ask for a vote as early as possible and get an impression on them early. Otherwise, your observation is very valid. The “choir” doesn’t teach you much. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 6:19 pm: ===Apparently Harold isn’t afraid of Lisa either?=== It was a political strategic gamble to work with Rauner to indeed bring the name “Madigan” into the the statewide races, and where both Rauner and Harold could benefit. That’s gone now. They’re stuck with each other. ===Because Madigan is polling even higher. I’d hazzard to guess…a lot higher.=== Hmm. Last public polling had Rauner’s negatives a mere 2-3 points behind Madigan’s negatives… and Rauner is running statewide while Madigan is not… and Lisa isn’t running either. A 63% disapproval with a below 40% approval isn’t the best for an incumbent, lol - Responsa - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 7:33 pm: I want Maze to have OW on his radio program. I think it would be entertaining. Anyone know how to get it suggested and scheduled? - Arsenal - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:30 pm: ==Just a thought: You’re likely not targeting “D” households for R petition signatures. We’re hearing a lot about Trump and Rauner as the problems, in our canvassing. This “field” knowledge during petition gathering means next to nothing.== This. My experiences canvassing this fall are almost the exact opposite of Guy’s. - Rabid - Wednesday, Sep 20, 17 @ 9:35 pm: lisa pulling the madigan brand, leaves Harold defending the Rauner brand like the wingman did Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.