* From yesterday’s appearance by Gov. Bruce Rauner on WJPF Radio…
I put out a balanced budget proposal, they overrode, uh, ignored it, passed an unbalanced budget, I vetoed it, they overrode me.
* Pritzker campaign…
Bruce Rauner can’t stop lying about the fact that he never presented a balanced budget. On WJPF yesterday, Rauner once again claimed his budget was balanced, but Politifact debunked that claim in March, rating it ‘pants on fire’ and saying the claim “doesn’t come close to adding up.”
That’s not the only lie Rauner keeps repeating. Rauner was caught lying about his grandparents being immigrants on September 5 and was caught lying again on October 24 and November 13 despite another Politifact ‘pants on fire’ rating.
“For three years, Bruce Rauner failed to complete his basic responsibilities to govern this state and now he’s set on pretending none of that ever happened,” said Pritzker campaign spokeswoman Jordan Abudayyeh. “No amount of brazen lying will hide the truth: Bruce Rauner is a failed governor who never produced a balanced budget and did irrevocable damage to this state.”
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:43 am:
Why doesn’t JB Pritzker accuse Senator Cullerton and Speaker Madigan of “brazen lying” for their claim the budget they passed with the 32 percent permanent income tax was balanced when it has at least a 1.5 billion deficit?
- King Louis XVI - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:45 am:
–1.5 billion deficit–
Rauner claimed there was a deficit. So, consider the source.
- Montrose - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:46 am:
Lucky - I really hope you are getting paid for the amount of time you put into defending Rauner/changing the topic for Rauner on here.
- Baloneymous - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:47 am:
Lucky—-
Is Madigan or Cullerton running for Governor? No? Ok then.
- Chicago 20 - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:47 am:
Lucky Pierre concurs.
What about Rauner constantly lying?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:49 am:
- Lucky Pierre -
Then how did Rauner overspend has he did… the budget is still $2.5 billion short in covering costs?
Considering Rauner proposed no cuts, be it agency heads or budget honchos… how did that spending happen?
- cdog - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:56 am:
I hope West Point Ives adds this to her stump speech on Rauner.
Hold this dude responsible for his deceiving practices and mayhem.
- downstate commissioner - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:57 am:
Rauner lies and gets caught all of the time; Madigan and Cullerton just “politic” with debatable money estimates. World of difference…
- Sue - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:59 am:
Earth to Pritzker- Illinois has not had a balanced budget for 40 years
- SOIL M - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:09 pm:
Rauners lies began 4 years ago when he first claimed to be conservative and not the progressive that he always has been. And he hasnt stopped yet.
And Pierre, just because others lie does not mean you should also. If Cullerton and Madigan jump off of a bridge should Rauner do the same?
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:10 pm:
Earth to Sue. The Governor said his was balanced. It wasn’t.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:12 pm:
Hey Lucky. Why don’t you try to stay on target here instead of your usual juvenile “but,but,but” arguments. The Governor lied. Period. But you can’t even acknowledge an obvious lie
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:12 pm:
That was me above
- cdog - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:16 pm:
Demoralized. Your accusations of juvenile arguments is funny. Thanks for the good laugh.
- Ajjacksson - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:24 pm:
It’s a 32% increase, not a 32% tax.
Big difference.
- RNUG - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:34 pm:
== was balanced when it has at least a 1.5 billion deficit? ==
Hard to balance a budget when there is $2.8B in unauthorized / undisclosed expenditures by an out of control Governor.
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:50 pm:
Selective outrage from Democrats like Susana Mendoza and JB Prtitzker whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families
- Chicago 20 - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:56 pm:
- “whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families”
So does that mean you support a progressive income tax and raising the corporate tax rate in Illinois?
- wordslingeris wordslinges - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:10 pm:
yeah, he does that brazen lying thing. Ask around.
Sue, your post is false. Charlie Wheeler presented the actual facts yesterday, as he has done before.
You should read it sometime.
- Ron - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:15 pm:
I support eliminating the State corporate income tax and instituting a progressive personal income tax. Along with public employee benefit protection being eliminated.
- Ron - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:16 pm:
- Sue - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:59 am:
Earth to Pritzker- Illinois has not had a balanced budget for 40 years
So true.
- Sue - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:26 pm:
Word- do if the budget has been balanced over the last several decades- why are the pension funds 120 billion below what’s required to satisfy the beneficiary obligation
- Steve Polite - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:33 pm:
Deflection is the tactic when the accusation is indefensible.
- Ron - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:37 pm:
Sue, that’s why this is all so sad. The state hasn’t had a real budget in decades, yet all the sudden it’s Rauner’s fault.
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:44 pm:
==yet all the sudden it’s Rauner’s fault.==
The problems aren’t all his fault. But, it has been partly his fault while he’s been in office. The victim enablers can’t seem to bring themselves to say that though.
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:46 pm:
==Selective outrage==
Umm, isn’t that what you do? Selective outrage at Democrats with no acknowledgement of the Governor’s culpability in anything?
Direct question. Try to give a direct answer. Was the Governor’s budget balanced? Yes or no. And try to answer without your usual “whataboutism.”
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:49 pm:
Sue
While I get your point about the pension liability and those payments have been shorted in most years, you don’t have to have a zero liability at the end of each year for the budget to be considered balanced. You do have to pay the required contribution though, which they haven’t.
- Sue - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:58 pm:
Demoralized- Illinois for the 40 years it had the 3 percent tax rate had spending as if the rate was 4 to 5 percent and the deficit was cushioned by underpaying the pensions. It went on so long there is very little likelihood it can be brought to the 90 percent the statute requires without either a huge tax increase or allowing other spending needs to go unmet
- Demoralized - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:01 pm:
I was agreeing with you Sue. I was only noting that the liability doesn’t need to be zero at the end of each year to have a balanced budget.
- Steve Polite - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:05 pm:
The accusation: Rauner lied about presenting a balanced budget.
The deflection: We haven’t had a balanced budget for decades.
The deflection is not a valid justification for the accusation.
- Chicago Cynic - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:40 pm:
- Sue and - Ron,
Are you guys the same person or married? Y’all always say the same thing using slightly different words.
- Ahoy! - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:41 pm:
I can agree that Rauner lied, but Pritzker doesn’t stand on moral high ground when it comes to telling the truth. Pot meet kettle.
- Arsenal - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:54 pm:
==whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families==
Unlike good ol’ Bruce Rauner, who supports Donald Trump’s plan to raise taxes on middle class families, but that’s not his only solution. He also wants to cut their pay.
- Arsenal - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 3:07 pm:
This isn’t hard to understand. Yes, the state has problems that predate the current Governor. That was true during Pat Quinn’s administration, too. And, like Pat Quinn, Rauner has been unable to fix the problems, or even stop them from getting worse. And, well, we threw Pat Quinn out because he couldn’t fix our problems, even though they weren’t his fault. No reason to hold Rauner to a different standard.
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:34 pm:
How about we throw out the Speaker and the rest of the Democrats who won’t reform Illinois as they are the reason the problems aren’t fixed?
We are supposed to believe JB Pritzker will fix Illinois even though he is the only Democrat running for Governor not distance himself from Speaker Madigan?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:41 pm:
===How about we throw out the Speaker and the rest of the Democrats who won’t reform Illinois as they are the reason the problems aren’t fixed?===
National Review has Bruce Rauner as THE worst Republican Governor in America.
How can Dems work with the worst Republican Governor…
:)
===We are supposed to believe JB Pritzker will fix Illinois even though he is the only Democrat running for Governor not distance himself from Speaker Madigan?===
Maybe any governor can work with the Speaker, except Bruce Rauner THE worst Republican governor in America.
No Republican governor is worse… than Bruce Rauner.
And here you are worried about Pritzker…
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:49 pm:
Who has the worst record for Speaker of the House for a state in terms of the decline of the finances of the state during their time in office?
Did the Speaker have a good record of working with Quinn or Blagoevich?
Rewrite history on that one
- Lester Holt’s Mustache - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:57 pm:
Oh boy, Rauner’s last loyal defender is at it again. As an alternative to once again proving to everyone here that you don’t possess the mental faculties to come up with a better defense for your boss than “everything is Madigan’s fault”, why don’t you answer Demoralized’s question instead?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:57 pm:
===Rewrite history on that one===
Live in the now, National Review is fresh, fresh, fresh.
You told me - Lucky Pierre -, quoting Mike Ditka… only cowards and losers live in the past.
I can point that out where you commented that too, lol
Embrace it.
Rauner IS the worst Republican governor.
That’s fun.
- Max Bayer - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:34 pm:
Okay that’s true JB, but what makes you different?
- Anonymous - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:48 pm:
Live in reality OW someone named John Miller thins Bruce Rauner is the worst Republican Governor in America
John Miller should stick to golf commentary
He doesn’t speak for National Review any more than Eric adorn does for the Trib
Want to bet National Review does not endorse a Democrat for Governor of Illinois?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:53 pm:
Oh “ - Anonymous - “, lol
Had the headline been.
“Bruce Rauner, best Republican governor”, you’d feel different(?)
Can’t *not* see that cover.
National Review - Rauner IS the worst Republican governor
Welp… lol