Sen. Harmon says he'll have enough votes for an override in the Senate, but it's trickier in the House. There are political questions: do you put people on a tough vote in the Senate if it won't move in the House? https://t.co/039sEmiqwy
State Sen. Andy Manar, D-Bunker Hill, said he would vote 'no' on potential gun dealer licensing override: "It exempts large retailers and puts the burden of regulation on smaller business owners. And I haven't yet been told a logical reason for that exemption." #twill
its real simple a lot of FFLs work out of their house and don;t have a retail shop. They would be hit by the new regulations and fees and many would give up their license. We saw it happen when Clinton raised the fees to $300 and thousands of dealers dropped their license.
The State’s not going to do anything the ATF isn’t already. Just another feel good level of bureaucracy. Meanwhile, could be debating legislation to actually address the problems, from mental care to social programs.
=I have heard this argument but nobody can ever name a “few” that might be squeezed out.=
It’s the people that do this as a side business out of their home. A lot of them just do it to FFL transfers for friends and family, or just sell a handful of guns per year. Some of them would be lucky to make a grand or two per year. More of a hobby type of business. Lots of them out there. And generally not the sources for guns used in crimes.
This bill will do only one thing. Drive more business out of state. It is already far easier to drive to MO or KY to buy a gun now, and the Dems want to make sure that only large box stores(which take their profits out of state), or small businesesses in other states take the place of small businesses in IL. Thats the way to drive economic growth.
=still the law in Pennsylvania that guns have to be sold via stores or transferred at a sheriff’s office. sounds good to me. even more important than ever after “transfer gate.”=
In Illinois they have to be sold via stores, or in the case of a private sale between two people, the seller has to do a foid check which involves calling an ISP hotline where a databse is checked. There is an exemption for gifts between certain relatives which was involved in the transfergate as you called it. Seems like an easy section to repeal.
Wordslinger: regarding the effect on the entirety of the state’s voters from such a veto exercise, I’m unable to answer that with any certainty. I wish I had data on support for such an idea among non S. IL voters; the number of those pro-2nd amendment types certainly isn’t zero. At this point if I were on the Rauner Titanic I would be considering all sorts of Hail Mary strategies. Thanks for the comments.
Todd @ 3:15 pm: “They would be hit by the new regulations and fees and many would give up their license. We saw it happen when Clinton raised the fees to $300 and thousands of dealers dropped their license.”
So go to crawling back to your cronies at the IL Chiefs of Police and ask them to oppose the dealer licensing bill. You couldn’t do enough to give the police unions everything they wanted to set up armed citizens in Rep. Brandon Phelps’ concealed carry bill, so what’s the problem? Aren’t police unions and “law abiding gun owners” (favorite buzzwords of Richard Pearson at ISRA) all “on the same side” against “thugs” (favorite racist buzzword of NRA spokesman Wayne LaPierre) and “career criminals?”
Where’s the new NRA lobbyist nowdays since Todd Vandermyde was fired by Chris Cox in November? Heard that the new NRA guy has three states to cover. Has the corporate machine at NRA, Inc. written off Illinois for the next thirty years like they did before they muscled into McDonald v. Chicago and stole ten minutes of attorney Alan Gura’s oral argument time in front of the Supreme Court?
@Ihatepolitics - Can’t they sell it to a gun shop? Don’t those shops sell used guns? And how do you know if they have an FFL if they don’t have ANY state requirements? My barber has to be licensed. Even when I went to a barber/hairdresser that worked out of her home on weekends.
@sedric - I support the 2nd amendment, especially the “well regulated” part. You don’t have to be anti-gun to want controls on wackos and violent criminals getting guns.
The ATF is understaffed and hamstrung by NRA reps in Congress & the WH. Small businesses which can’t survive the proposed licensing requirements in the bill need to go out of business. Easy access to guns is the reason we have a constant stream of shootings. If you need a license to cut hair, do nails and drive a car, you need one to sell weapons.