Bernie: And you learned the bad information about him when?
Loncar: Probably about five years ago. The real, yeah this isn’t right.
Bernie: Does this it involve money?
Loncar, Yes of course it involves money. This is Illinois.
Bernie: How so? Somebody giving somebody something?
Bernie: Like what? Like a bribe or something?
Bernie: Who was offering that? Was it taken?
Loncar: No, because we stopped it. We were the meddling kids who stopped it.
Reporter: You’re saying the bribe was offered to Lou Lang?
Loncar: Um, y- It was offered — it was spoken to to him and two other senators. Democrats.
Amanda: You’re saying two other senators?
Loncar: Yeah. There were three of them.
Bernie: By a grower? Or developer?
Loncar: Down those lines yes.
Bernie: You wanna say who as long as we’re going this far?
Loncar: Um *long pause*
Rotheimer: It’s your call.
Ives: Maryann, if you don’t want to —
Loncar: You’re dealing with a lot of people who have a lot of money. The truth is you all know the truth.
Hannah: How much money are we talking about?
Loncar: We’re talking about at least 170-something million dollars. Is that enough for everybody to know?
Hannah: That sounds more like —
Reporter: A contractual bribe?
Loncar: No, it doesn’t. We have many people over the years that have written about this. Many.
Bishop: So you said earlier you wanted the cannabis title program to be non-profit. So it’s in this context that this bribe —
Loncar: Yes, the people who had the choice of writing HB1.
Reporter: You’re not talking about contractual arrangements, you’re talking about a bribe to three people of $170 million?
Loncar: Yeah, I’m talking about a meeting at the Capitol. That we weren’t supposed to be privy to, that we weren’t supposed to know about.
Reporter: And they didn’t accept the bribe?
Loncar: This is Illinois. Do I have to bring it back to that we’re the most corrupt state of all of the states?
Tina: But did they accept the bribe?
Loncar: We didn’t give them the chance to accept it.
Hannah: When you’re saying you meddled, what did you specifically do?
Loncar: We went to the news. I went to Andy Shaw specifically and sent him all the information I had on it and he wrote something about it.
Loncar: “I have written all of this down and I have documentation.” “Eventually I will release it…I’d like to be able to show all this to
Bernie: And the illegality is often in offering the bribe. If he didn’t take it, then it’s not illegal. If you offer it, it’s illegal. So you’re saying it’s not Lou Lang but somebody else who was illegal.
Loncar: Um, no. I’m saying all of these people were culpable of going that direction. And as advocates when we found out about it we stopped that direction. And this is why I am being targeted. Make no mistake about it.
Bishop: Do you fear for your life?
Loncar: Yes, yes every day.
Tina: How did you end up at that meeting?
Loncar: Mike Graham was at the meeting with another individual. I was at a hotel waiting for them to be done.
Bernie: And is the person who offered the money for this —
Loncar: They didn’t get a license and they sued.
Bernie: Okay and they’re not in operation now?
Loncar: Nope, they sued because they thought they had worked this legislation. Their lawyer basically said that they earned it.
Bernie: Are they in Chicago?
Loncar: They are up north near Lake County.
Hannah: Do you know if they sued in federal court or county court?
Loncar: They sued downtown. They sued saying that they should have gotten a license and they put a lot into it.
He added that he believed the $170 million was intended as a payment to the state for all of the operating licenses.