I was kidding Dan about why his post did take, but he really is a quality government journalist. I was sickened when Governing failed. While working for the State, I found it to be a very useful source on efforts to improve the quality and efficiency of government programs. I even took in a conference they sponsored on performance management.
I hope Dan gets a good gig at an organization that utilizes his skills and is still involved in government improvement.
Romeo uses the slippery slope argument, which hardcore 2nd amendment advocates frequently use. I can do the same thing in reverse. If I have the right the bear arms, then can I own a ground to air missile launcher? An atomic bomb? You know, so I can defend myself.
- Grandson of Man - Friday, Oct 18, 19 @ 10:48 am:
Also arguing like a child, in a ridiculous extreme. It’s like saying, oh why don’t we go ahead and just raise the minimum wage to $30 an hour because we raised it a few bucks.
- Da Big Bad Wolf - Friday, Oct 18, 19 @ 11:19 am:
==I agree with Romeo, Illinois gun laws do absolutely nothing to determine gun violence. Too bad, it would make things so much easier if they did :(==
The waiting period law that Rauner signed 7/16/18 has reduced Illinois gun suicide deaths. Illinois has less gun suicides than the national average.
@Grandson ==Also arguing like a child, in a ridiculous extreme.==
Ad hominem attacks are any better?
An ad hominem argument is when one attacks the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself (when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making).
In this case, a hypothetical ad hominem argument would be if Grandson of Man had said, “Because you are a child, you are too young to possibly know what you’re talking about,” i.e. an attack on the person not the person’s argument.
By contrast, Grandson of Man characterized the nature of your argument as overly-simple and juvenile. He even posted an example of similar juvenile arguments.
Because his comment addressed the argument and not the person making the argument, Grandson of Man did not commit an ad hominem attack.
-OW-, at the risk of stirring the pot, I will note that fingerprints are sometimes required for a job. At the age of 20 I had to supply my fingerprints to the State so they could do a full background check before I was hired because I would have access to sensitive and confidential data.
Without a plan to go take guns from the people CPD knows are dangerous criminals, this is just liberal fundraising propaganda.
Our society needs to accept there are bad people. For the most part law enforcement is good and can identify bad people. Let law enforcement take guns from bad people. Execute stop and frisk, searches on felons that CPD beleves hold guns, stop acting like more rules for law abiding citizens works.
MO requires fingerprints for lawyers, so in the grand scheme of things, asking for it for guns is not crazy. I just don’t think it will solve the problem we are trying to solve.