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Maybe that is the only way to get his attention

Tuesday, Mar 24, 2020

* I’ve chided Gov. Pritzker twice for the tone he’s used with President Trump. It’s not that I felt the governor was being counter-productive. It’s that two of our last three governors would regularly fly into public rages and I hated that. I also believed, and still do, that he needed to continue being Gov. Chillax during these frightening times. The facts are obviously on his side, so I wanted him to stick to the facts.

There are those, including within the Pritzker administration, who believe that President Trump respects those who challenge him. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but the POTUS did say this last night…


* Tina Sfondeles

After a string of national TV appearances in which Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker criticized President Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic — and a couple of Twitter tirades — the White House on Monday has vowed to send Illinois 300 ventilators and 250,000 masks.

According to the governor’s office, that assurance came from a White House aide on Monday afternoon after Pritzker and Trump spoke directly on the phone at about noon. It also came some 24 hours after Pritzker complained “the only way to get the president of the United States to pay attention is to go on national television and make noise about it.”

So, maybe it did work. But the state needs far more than what’s been promised


And the White House has made a whole lot of promises it hasn’t kept during the past several weeks.

Maybe our Republican delegation can finally stand up and say something?

…Adding… Also, this. All day this…


…Adding… I wonder how he feels now that the president has vowed to help Illinois?

Cook County Republican Chairman Sean Morrison lashed out Monday at Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Mayor Lori Lightfoot, accusing them of putting politics before constituents with their “volley of combative and sarcastic tweets” aimed at President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus crisis.

“Finger-pointing and name calling by Governor Pritzker and Mayor Lightfoot solves absolutely nothing except for trying to score some cheap political points,” Morrison said in a statement. “We need steady, effective and focused leadership and they’re not providing it.”

- Posted by Rich Miller        

81 Comments
  1. - Downstate - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:47 am:

    I had several people that watched the Governor’s press conference announcing the new policies. To a person they turned off the TV when Mayor Lightfoot started her comments by attacking Washington.


  2. - Downstate - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:49 am:

    I should add that they were impressed with the Governor’s statements.


  3. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:51 am:

    ===To a person they turned off the TV ===

    Snowflakes.


  4. - efudd - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:54 am:

    Trump’s a bully. Standing up to him has been proven to be successful time and again.
    Pritzker called him out on the one media that truly gets Trump’s attention, national TV.
    If anyone, after three years of this administration, believes anything that comes out of Trump’s mouth, they’re a sucker for life.


  5. - The Loop - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:54 am:

    Maybe JB could have made a phone call “before” his whining and antics. Did he really not even call the President until after all that drama?


  6. - Sayitaintso - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:55 am:

    JB has smarts. He got the president to talk to him. JB nailed it when, after the early chit/chat, he said the magic words, “Look, from one Hotelier to another outstanding Hotelier, couldn’t you see your way to…….”


  7. - TheInvisibleMan - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:56 am:

    Zaldans are infuriated by courtesy. They view it as phony social behavior designed to cover true feelings.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PRkD6VpjCs


  8. - efudd - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:57 am:

    The Loop-
    Uh, Pritzker tried to contact the White House last week. He said they screamed at him.


  9. - Perrid - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:00 am:

    The Loop - what’s your source on that? Or are you making it up because it’s what you want to believe? I’d be fairly surprised if no one in Pritzker’s office tried to reach out to the WH.


  10. - Ex. Prairie Stater - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:04 am:

    Rich, I think you were right in the first place.

    Trump’s mantra is, “Punch back twice as hard.” I don’t think the Guv. endeared himself to Trump by calling for his impeachment, lamblasting him publicly, etc.

    I remember the first Governor’s luncheon that Pritzker attended at the White House shortly after Pritzker was sworn in. Trump made a rather neutral statement to the effect that he looked forward to working with him, but Pritzker shot back with a sharp partisan comment.

    I don’t think any Illinois democrats helped the situation by pushing impeachment in January/February, and now complain that the administration did not respond to the virus at that time.

    And remember, the impeachment trial took precedence over everything else, including considering any Corona virus related legislation. Everyone was focused on the trial, whether there would be witnesses, etc.

    You were right to call out Pritzker when he growled on the Sunday news that Trump should have called for a nationwide shutdown. I’m sure every Governor wanted that, to take the heat off them for having to shut down their local economy.

    I think the message from the feds that I see coming from their news conferences is that they are there to back up the states. The state effort must be primary. The fed effort is secondary. They’ve been consistent about that.


  11. - TNR - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:06 am:

    Yeah, it seems like JB contentious rhetoric has captured Trump’s attention, but Governor Cuomo has managed to accomplish the same with a much milder approach — constructive criticism and plenty of talk about wanting to partner with the White House. Both tactics seem to work. The question is what track does the public prefer to see their governor take? I think the latter.


  12. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:07 am:

    Everybody’s human and this is frightening, so some or many are bound to fly off the handle. There’s the extenuating circumstance of a president who constantly attacks people.

    But very glad Pritzker quickly reeled it in, and the president too, apparently. Agree that this problem is infinitely more important than any political squabble. Our health and lives depend on cooperation.


  13. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:08 am:

    It’s been the most interesting examination of styles and governing, the trio of the President, Governor Pritzker, and Governor Cuomo.

    “Some” might say I’m holding up Governor Cuomo more than Governor Pritzker, but as I’m watching these three interact and signal to each other in the ways each feel comfortable or might seem out of character, but each has mentioned the other two in very specific ways and pointedly towards trying to work to the betterment of this crisis.

    How our governor has gone about his business has gotten the needed attention. Sometimes “out of character“ is the needed ingredient, but what’s been the calling card of both governors is that they’re showing honest, that’s the takeaway, the honest concern for the constituents and the country, and if it’s working for them both, hopefully Illinois and New York, and for the states too.


  14. - Pot calling kettle - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:09 am:

    While I also prefer Gov. Chillax, he seems to bring out the angry guy in a limited way to address a specific need. As long as he uses that particular tool in a limited manner, I can live with it.


  15. - efudd - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:10 am:

    “corona virus related legislation”

    Two weeks ago, Trump was singing don’t worry, be happy. The GOP, in their slavish devotion, sang back up.
    Any legislation proposed by Democrats would have been lambasted by this administration as another attempt to dethrone their king.
    And Fox News would have been more than happy to spread the propaganda.


  16. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:10 am:

    === I think the message from the feds that I see coming from their news conferences is that they are there to back up the states. The state effort must be primary. The fed effort is secondary. They’ve been consistent about that.===

    Explain FEMA and straw purchasing and bidding

    Thanks.


  17. - SSL - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:12 am:

    Working together works much better than antagonizing each other most of the time. The side benefit when public figures work together is that it calms the public. We need public calm right now. I hope JB continues to tone down the rhetoric. Even if he has to work hard to do it. Be the bigger man for the people of Illinois.


  18. - NIU Grad - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:13 am:

    “Maybe our Republican delegation can finally stand up and say something”

    That’ll be the day.


  19. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:14 am:

    ===including considering any Corona virus related legislation.===

    Cite the Coronavirus legislation ignored.

    Thanks.


  20. - dd - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:14 am:

    Trump is a sociopath. Anyone who has deat with their ilk knows that they will do whatever it takes to accomplish their obession. It is all that matters and one can only speculate what the obession is until it is out in the open. In fact they count on everyone around them to ignore, deny or normalize bizarre behaviors. Also those closest to the sociopath will do everything to protect and conceal the obessive behavior or face the wrath and cunning much like Michael Cohen.
    We in Illinois will see little help from the WH. In fact there will be little help for the nation and no doubt WH denial will intensify.
    Anyone who has lived through the destruction sociopaths inflict will tell you the same.


  21. - OurMagician - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:16 am:

    “We need steady, effective and focused leadership and they’re not providing it.”

    I agree. Oh wait, he didn’t mean the Trump “Administration”? Then, not so much.


  22. - Marty Meh-lan - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:18 am:

    Honestly, Gov Cuomo has a brother with a nationally televised primetime TV show on CNN, a channel the President decries but can not tear himself away from. Gov Cuomo flexed that to get support from Trump. Gov Pritzker did the next best thing to having a brother whose employer is CNN: calling him out in the national media.


  23. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:22 am:

    Maybe JB should call out Pelosi and Schumer, then the much needed bill could be passed without a bunch of pork included.


  24. - Amalia - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:24 am:

    Trump only respects strength. JB has hotels AND real money. And he’s advocating strongly and must continue to do so. Cuomo has a massive problem in NY and he is currently advocating that they get help first because of that. JB has to keep advocating so we can keep our problem smaller. No sense being a shrinking violet in this situation.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:28 am:

    Dear Mr. Morrison,

    What do you care?

    The President said himself “I don’t take responsibility at all”.

    You supporting a feckless leader because you think calling him out is partisan politics ignores a truth;

    This President said “I don’t take responsibility”

    I guess you want the United States like your own leadership of a party.

    Leaderless, rudderless, and hopeless.

    Ah. Now it makes sense why you’re so upset.


  26. - Phenomynous - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:31 am:

    Is 4,000 respirators a reasonable request? I would be curious to see what science or statistical modeling led to the amount being requested.


  27. - jimbo - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:32 am:

    ~~I think the message from the feds that I see coming from their news conferences is that they are there to back up the states. The state effort must be primary. The fed effort is secondary. They’ve been consistent about that.~~

    Absolutely. Except the reason they’re doing it is to absolve themselves.

    Go back and find me the examples of a hurricane and the Feds saying- “hey, we’re just here as backup, find your own MRE’s and hospital supplies”

    How about those times when Iowa bailed out it’s own farming industry this summer?

    I’ll wait.


  28. - efudd - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:35 am:

    Phenomymous-

    Often, when requesting supplies, you always ask for more than you think you will need, especially when you’re certain your request will not be 100% filled.


  29. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:35 am:

    If you think the Governor’s have been criticizing the President too much now, just wait and see what happens if the President lifts the CDC social distancing guidelines.


  30. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:35 am:

    ===The state effort must be primary. The fed effort is secondary. They’ve been consistent about that.===

    They have been consistent on that and that’s why the Feds are failing. A virus doesn’t respect state borders and the states are only as protected as the weakest state link, which now might be West Virginia.

    He’s going to blame the virus on China and he’s going to blame the response on states and their governors. That’s the way he operates. He said it himself - “I don’t take responsibility.”


  31. - Practical Politics - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:36 am:

    Oy! Rod Blagojevich is making the rounds of talk radio and offering suggestions to Pritzker. He penned an op-ed last week.

    One puzzle is the Illinois state income tax filing date. With the Feds pushing back the tax date to July, how many Illinoisans will file or request extensions? The IL-1040 requires a number of entries that match the Federal 1040 form.

    This could be an exercise in the law of unintended consequences.


  32. - Ducky LaMoore - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:48 am:

    “Maybe JB should call out Pelosi and Schumer, then the much needed bill could be passed without a bunch of pork included.”

    Now that is laughable tripe. Yeah, a half a trillion dollar slush fund is not pork? Okay then.


  33. - thoughts matter - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:55 am:

    I didn’t have a problem with the Governors’ statements, I’ve paid attention over the last week or so. He’s made calls ( he’s said so), he’s sent letters, no answers. He resorted to twitter and call-outs on TV and he got responses. Both his and Gov Coumos’ conferences are concise and full of info. Meanwhile the Presidents’ are all about ‘not my fault, they said something bad about me, the old system was broken, hey the navy is sending ships, the states should take care of themselves, stock market, this off label drug should be implemented tomorrow … not my fault.

    I see a lot of responsible adults leading states. I actually see a lot of responsible adults ( other than Rand Paul) risking their
    health to try to get Aid bills passed. The President is acting like Rod Blagojevich hiding in the bathroom.


  34. - Precinct Captain - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:57 am:

    All the prostrating in the world hasn’t gotten Cuomo the help New York needs.

    The president is a complete and total failure. The blood is on his incompetent hands.

    https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1242470584602308611


  35. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 10:59 am:

    Most of the time Trump acts childish. Rare times he has acted presidential. I give home a B grade on this crisis. JB is not helping himself, with what I consider, public demeaning. Most people who have inherited their wealth(including the POTus) dont know how to deal with other people. JB is proving that out.


  36. - @misterjayem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:02 am:

    If 1) something merits yelling, and
    2) yelling gets salutary results, then
    one should certainly yell.

    – MrJM


  37. - Flapdoodle - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:06 am:

    ==It’s been the most interesting examination of styles and governing, the trio of the President, Governor Pritzker, and Governor Cuomo.==

    Indeed. And just as interesting is the partisan tap-dancing as people try to mesh their existing partisan leanings and rhetoric with events of unprecedented complexity and scope. That goes for both left and right. Perhaps in such circumstances some sharp language is occasionally necessary to center attention on what really matters, which is saving human lives.


  38. - @misterjayem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:07 am:

    “JB is not helping himself, with what I consider, public demeaning.”

    He not trying to help himself, he’s trying to help others.

    Why didn’t that possibility occur to you?

    – MrJM


  39. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:11 am:

    Mrjm. You keep telling yourself that.


  40. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:11 am:

    Ducky, quit watching CNN


  41. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:13 am:

    - Pick a Name -

    “First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

    #FoxNewser

    None of that is helping either side.


  42. - ItsMillerTime - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:16 am:

    This “It’s the state’s job to handle this/Federal Government should take a back seat” is a pathetic argument. This is a national health pandemic, we need a national policy to effectively combat it. Having each state set it’s own policies to combat this with bare minimum federal guidelines leaves gaps that can be exploited by the virus. Take that debacle with Spring Breakers in Florida. How many of them were from Illinois? It kinda ruins the whole “stay at home” policy if we have potentially infected people coming back from State’s who won’t take this seriously as Illinois is. Furthermore, every country that has done a good job with this is due to it’s national government, they didn’t tell their subregions to handle it.

    Honestly Trumps “state’s take a lead in this” seems more of an effort to insulate himself from any public backlash. We don’t have enough tests? State’s fault. Unpopular lockdown policy’s? State’s fault. Economic depression due to Coronaviruse? State’s fault. This theory of mine seems even stronger when you consider that when this ends Trump will probably try to claim credit for everything good for himself and maybe a couple of favorites.


  43. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:17 am:

    =Most of the time Trump acts childish. Rare times he has acted presidential. I give home a B grade on this crisis=

    A B? Really? The President has literally said that he bears no responsibility. He called the virus a hoax. He has a hunch that things will get better (when they clearly aren’t) and is now rethinking social distancing. That’s quite the scale you’re grading on.

    Thanks for letter us know how you frown on public demeaning. But remember, there’s good people on both sides.


  44. - @misterjayem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:21 am:

    “You keep telling yourself that”

    And you keep telling yourself that you have a much better grasp on the situation than the governor’s team does.

    – MrJM


  45. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:25 am:

    Pundent, he called out the democrats for criticizing the administrations handling of the outbreak as “their new hoax.”

    Don’t believe me? Try snopes.


  46. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 11:44 am:

    The implication, from Trump’s tweet, is that he wasn’t going to help Illinois before the call. That is really problematic. He should be working on helping everyone, but he obviously is not. He is playing personal (not partisan) politics with a crisis. He is a sick person.

    With regard to what Rich is talking about, I too prefer the chill governor who simply gets things done. I think it is the perfect contrast to the president.

    =Mrjm. You keep telling yourself that.=

    All evidence points to Pritzker trying to help ALL of Illinois versus a president who, by his own words, isn’t doing that.

    Maybe if you fawn all over him Trump will say nice things about you as well.


  47. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 12:00 pm:

    =Pundent, he called out the democrats for criticizing the administrations handling of the outbreak as “their new hoax.”=

    Yes, you are correct. Much of what the President says is quite nuanced and I should have been clearer. We all know that his response has been “perfect” a “10 out of 10.”


  48. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 12:13 pm:

    It took him awhile, but JB teaming up with the IMA and IBIO is what I am talking about.


  49. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 12:18 pm:

    I applaud gov Newsome of California and his meeting with Gilead executives. Granting Remdesiver to orphan status is the sort of bold innovative steps governors across the nation should undertaking


  50. - Clem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 12:57 pm:

    Glad President Trump finally realizes that Illinois is run by incompetents.


  51. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:00 pm:

    Yay. We have a troll today. Because that’s what we need right now. Thanks Clem.


  52. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:02 pm:

    - Clem -

    What, did Facebook shut you down?

    “I don’t take responsibility at all.”

    That’s total incompetence, that’s the President of the United States.

    The country is lucky to have competent governors.


  53. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:15 pm:

    “The country is lucky to have competent governors.”

    Yes. Unfortunately it also has geniuses like Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, or as Rich might refer to him, the Governor of Shark City. Keeping the beaches open for spring break has guaranteed a very large spike in a state with more old people than anywhere else. Way to whack your citizens, Gov.


  54. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:17 pm:

    Oh, and all those who were praising Cuomo and condemning JB for their approach to Trump may want to take a look at what Cuomo did today. He went after Trump and the feds, big time. Seemed pretty angry about failures of the feds to take action.


  55. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:30 pm:

    ==Seemed pretty angry about failures of the feds to take action.==

    Going to be a lot more anger if the President moves forward with his desire to want the country re-opened by Easter. Pretty sure the Governor’s are going to go tell him what to go do with himself if he starts publicly saying that more and more.


  56. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:40 pm:

    =Seemed pretty angry about failures of the feds to take action.=

    Pritzker and Cuomo are trying to keep the people of their states and that has to be supported by the federal government. When you’re told one thing (everyone that needs a test can get one) and the reality is completely different you’re going to get upset. Add to it that the person delivering the message takes no responsibility and rates himself a 10 out of 10. Kind of hard to stay composed in the face of that.

    Diplomacy hasn’t worked with Trump yet. What makes anyone believe that it will now?


  57. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:48 pm:

    Demo, if the Senate Dems and Pelosi don’t cut the pork out of the bill and it doesn’t get passed, Trump will have little choice.

    The economy will quickly tank, is that what you want? Illinois is already in terrible financial condition, what will happen now with the loss of sales taxes and income taxes along with job losses??


  58. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:53 pm:

    - Pick a Name -

    Do you think America needs to get back to work at the cost of other people’s lives?

    It’s a yes or no answer.

    I have the cite from the President if you’re confused.


  59. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:53 pm:

    =Demo, if the Senate Dems and Pelosi don’t cut the pork out of the bill and it doesn’t get passed, Trump will have little choice.=

    Well it’s only “pork” when the other guy does it right?

    Do you really think that businesses will just resume operations because Trump says so? The actions that have been taken so far by private businesses and states have been done in spite of anything that Trump has suggested.


  60. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 1:55 pm:

    ==Do you think America needs to get back to work at the cost of other people’s lives?==

    Well, the Lt. Governor of Texas thinks so. He said that if the choice is between getting the economy moving again and his health, he chooses illness and death. He’s graciously said he and other old people will take one for the team.


  61. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 2:19 pm:

    Great, great question. Thought I knew the answer, and am still willing to give the stay at home a couple of weeks. After that, I may have to reconsider…..but still holding out hope on these treatments in clinicals.


  62. - My New Handle - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 2:36 pm:

    “He’s graciously said he and other old people will take one for the team.”
    It’s coming to this, deliberately, and not by choice made by old people, see Italy.


  63. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 2:37 pm:

    =After that, I may have to reconsider…..but still holding out hope on these treatments in clinicals.=

    So you’re in the camp of the President that a cure is right around the corner. It seems that neither of you actually understand what happens in clinical research.

    www.fda.gov/patients/drug-development-process/step-3-clinical-research


  64. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:10 pm:

    The federal government taking a back seat to states in a national pandemic is the opposite of leadership. What do we have a national government for if it’s not going to take the lead in a national emergency?

    When we had the Great Depression, the federal government took the lead. But we had FDR. Now we have a president who reminds of our former governor.


  65. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:17 pm:

    Willy, when should people go back to work? 2 weeks? 2 months? 2021?


  66. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:18 pm:

    === when should people go back to work? 2 weeks? 2 months? 2021?===

    So you won’t answer? Heh.


  67. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:19 pm:

    Pundent. Yes. I am confident a treatment will be here soon. The next step will be mass production. And no. I dont get my optimism from the President.

    .


  68. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:20 pm:

    ===when should people go back to work? 2 weeks? 2 months? 2021?===

    The correct answer is when it’s deemed medically smart… for society.

    Otherwise, the answer is… you deciding which lives are more important.


  69. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:41 pm:

    Economists smarter than you and me state if we don’t get businesses going in 2 months(and hopefully much sooner) you can turn out the lights.


  70. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:43 pm:

    === Economists smarter than you and me state if we don’t get businesses going in 2 months(and hopefully much sooner) you can turn out the lights.===

    Don’t you have a special needs family member?

    You’re willing to risk them to this virus?

    Whew.


  71. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 3:45 pm:

    === Economists===

    Can they bring back one of my family members? Yours?


  72. - 17% Solution - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 4:21 pm:

    ==Pundent, he called out the democrats for criticizing the administrations handling of the outbreak as “their new hoax.” ==
    Nope. President Trump called the coronavirus the Democrats’ new hoax. At a rally at North Charleston South Carolina he “And this (the coronavirus) is their [Democrats] new hoax”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/five-times-the-trump-administration-downplayed-the-coronavirus-2020-3


  73. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 4:24 pm:

    =I am confident a treatment will be here soon. The next step will be mass production.=

    I forget about the wide circle of friends and family that you have that act as your spiritual adviser’s. Hope is not a plan. Be well.


  74. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 4:42 pm:

    Well, apparently my comments are constantly moderated. No idea why.


  75. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 4:43 pm:

    17%, as I directed Pundent I will direct you to snopes, you don’t have to take my word for it.

    That is not what Trump said.


  76. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 4:47 pm:

    - Pick a Name -

    So, still risking your family for a dollar?

    I remember you saying you wouldn’t/couldn’t leave Illinois because of a special needs family member.

    But, if POTUS says to risk their lives for the economy, you jump at that chance.

    When I think back now to you not being able to move, but now you are willing to risk your family for the economy.

    Really… dunno what to say to all that.


  77. - Pundent - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 5:02 pm:

    =economists smarter than you and me state if we don’t get businesses going in 2 months(and hopefully much sooner) you can turn out the lights.=

    Which is precisely why we need more tests. The reason that we’re staying at home right now is that you can’t separate the sick from the healthy. And even when tests are performed results are taking days to receive. South Korea can do this but we can’t seem to figure it out? You want people back to work, hold the President and federal government accountable.

    Or continue to defend the many ways the President uses the word “hoax.”


  78. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 7:35 pm:

    You mean like Russia hoax, impeachment hoax, Kavanaugh hoax? You should probably worry a lot more about the apparent D nominee for Prez.


  79. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 7:47 pm:

    ===… worry a lot more about the apparent D nominee for Prez.===

    People are getting sick and dying.

    You are trusting economists so you can beat the libs.

    Dr. Fauci is the most important “person” right now, arguably the only “thing” standing in front of ignoring our crisis.

    Friend, this wasn’t a good day for your self reflection, if you do that.


  80. - Real Eh Tee - Tuesday, Mar 24, 20 @ 9:49 pm:

    Expecting our Republican delegation in Congress, led by such snakes as Rodney Davis and Darin LaHood, to suddenly find a backbone and rebuke this president is a pipe dream, Rich.


  81. - 17% Solution - Wednesday, Mar 25, 20 @ 6:55 am:

    == 17%, as I directed Pundent I will direct you to snopes==
    Well Snopes is wrong. Here is a portion of the transcript.
    “ Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, “How’s President Trump doing?” They go, “Oh, not good, not good.” They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa. They can’t even count. No, they can’t. They can’t count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.” That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.”
    The pronoun “this” refers to the coronavirus.
    The way pronouns work is they refer to the subject previously mentioned. That subject was the coronavirus. You can see it right there. You don’t have to take my word for it.


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