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Horde of Illinois Nazis descended on Statehouse last weekend for anti-vax rally
Thursday, Oct 7, 2021 - Posted by Rich Miller * The ADL describes Nicholas Fuentes as a “white supremacist leader and organizer and podcaster who seeks to forge a white nationalist alternative to the mainstream GOP.” He was a featured speaker at the “We Will Not Comply” (with COVID mandates) rally in Springfield last weekend. If any reporters showed up, they didn’t write about it that I could find. Here’s his 37-minute speech in full, but just remember what type of person this is before clicking play… The frantic chanting of “Christ is king!” was particularly repulsive. …Adding… Brief bit from WICS…
* More disturbing video, much of which is NSFW…
That’s a whole lot of Illinois Nazis.
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- Uncle Merkin - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:14 am:
And his security guy is a white dude with a buzzcut.
- Lake Villa township - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:14 am:
Nick Fuentes wants to repeal the 19th amendment (bar women from voting) and ban race mixing in America, he is despicable.
- Sharia Capo - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:18 am:
Who is the guy in the black leather double-breasted overcoat and fedora?
The audio quality is poor, but I heard some tourettic exclamations about “kayfabe” and “I’m not larping” ad nauseam.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:19 am:
Let’s be very, very, VERY clear who the ILGOP is… from Chairman Tracy himself;
=== So, whatever your political leanings, wherever you live - if you want to fight corruption, restore fiscal sanity, grow our economy, and stand for law and order - you’re on our team. It’s time to suit up, work together, and bring home some wins for the people of Illinois.”===
- Chairman Tracy, Feb 6, 2021
These folks are more than welcome in Chairman Tracy’s ILGOP
When these folks are embraced… believe they are the base.
- So_Ill - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:25 am:
It’s amazing that in 2021, literal Nazis are infiltrating the GOP and being welcomed with open arms.
Scary.
- HD114 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:27 am:
- These folks are more than welcome in Chairman Tracy’s ILGOP-
Pretty ridiculous, even for you OW.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:29 am:
=== Pretty ridiculous===
Pretty ridiculous that Chairman Tracy has yet to chastise either Miller, the one in congress and one in the statehouse… maybe Tracy is too busy… and I’ve yet to hear anything negative from Tracy pertaining to racist thinkers and being part of a GOP narrative.
If you had, you would’ve cited it already.
It’s ridiculous to think Tracy is too busy to comment on this.
- Back to the Future - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:30 am:
I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut.
- jimbo - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
I hate Illinois Nazis. /obligatory
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
Why is it that all these little j-offs always look like their hands have never seen a blister?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
- HD114 -
Remember, that was the approved quote Tracy selected after becoming chair and after January 6th too…
But let’s just stick with these folks for this post.
- Cubs in '16 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
Fuentes is hardly an Anglo-Saxon surname.
- bkhartbnjo - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
It was covered a bit by Channel 20, WICS
https://newschannel20.com/news/local/anti-vaccine-protestors-rally-at-state-capitol
And I think on WCIA (mostly what I watch) there was an interview with a woman at the rally who is hoping to run against Tammy Duckworth. The reporter asked her if she accepted support from the groups at the rally, expressly meaning Fuentes. The candidate-hopeful responded “Sure.” I wish I could remember it better, and I could not find the clip. Maybe someone here has a better memory than me.
- Precinct Captain - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am:
The Republican base
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:32 am:
I know a lot of Repubs who are a lot like this nut.
- thunderspirit - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:32 am:
Elwood: “Illinois Nazis.”
Jake: “I hate Illinois Nazis.”
== Pretty ridiculous, even for you OW. ==
How so? The next time Tracy explicitly denounces people like this will be the first time.
- Seaver41 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:35 am:
We can find crazy rants on the left as well. Not saying it is right, just saying. This is a fringe actor. Nothing more. The Republicans I know want the best for Illinois–they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.
- Norseman - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:35 am:
HD, OW is on target. The GOP has a wink, wink, nod, nod relationship with these folks. The receipts are piled high.
- Frank talks - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:37 am:
Elwood: Illinois nazis pssh
Jake: I hate Illinois nazis
Seems fitting here, who would’ve thought 40+ years later that quote would still be a thing?
- Steve Rogers - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:39 am:
This used to be the fringe, now it’s mainstream Republicans. @backtothefuture, I know a lot of republicans too, and many are like this. I didn’t think they were, but they really are.
- HD114 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:40 am:
Show me where he explicitly supports these people Norseman.
- Streator Curmudgeon - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:41 am:
NF: “This is a movement God is behind.”
“For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Galatians 5:14)
Where’s the Bluesmobile when we need it?
- Pundent - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:43 am:
=The GOP has a wink, wink, nod, nod relationship with these folks.=
I think that was made pretty clear by the Miller’s (Chris and Mary) and the ILGOP’s refusal to condemn their words or actions. Because when it comes to Nazi comparisons or an association with the 3%ers nuance doesn’t come into play. You can’t tell me that the behavior of the Miller’s is somehow acceptable but Fuentes’ isn’t.
- Seaver41 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:43 am:
Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?
I think not. To equate Republicans with Nazis is to equate Democrats as anarchists.
Neither is the case and we debase ourselves pillorizing those who have a different view of governance.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:48 am:
===Show me where he explicitly supports these people Norseman.===
LOL
Show us where he condemns them, and the Millers.
You’re not good at this.
===I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut.===
Have they condemned these folks or wanted them out of the GOP?
I’d like to know… which leaders are condemning
It’s not Tracy. His own quote is passive to racist thinkers…
- Cheryl44 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:48 am:
These are exactly the people I think of when I think of mainstream Republicans. If this isn’t who you want representing your party, it’s a problem you need to address.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:54 am:
===Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?===
No, but Democrats are often pressed to talk about her. As they should be.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:55 am:
===Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?===
Republicans can’t condemn racists… “because Kim Foxx”?
Is this a gag? A joke?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:58 am:
===debase ourselves pillorizing those who have a different view of governance.===
“Let the racist thinkers speak”
Is that how this works? Huh.
- The Other Rich Hill - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:58 am:
@Seaver41: “We can find crazy rants on the left as well.” -
I call baloney.
Name one single liberal who has spoken at a state rally calling for white supremacy. Heck, at any state rally, not just in Illinois.
I won’t hold my breath.
For those claiming they know Republicans who aren’t like this, listen harder. The ones you think aren’t like this aren’t publicly denouncing Fuentes et al either. Rather, their anti-vax, anti-rhetoric echoes Fuentes and his ilk right down to their threats against volunteer school board members and other local public officials.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:02 am:
=== We can find crazy rants on the left as well. Not saying it is right, just saying.===
Whataboutism in this instance is acceptance of the message in this post.
Otherwise you’d just condemn whatever comes, no matter the side.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:04 am:
=== they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.===
Are they condemning folks like in this post or are they passively let it slide?
You didn’t say.
- bkhartbnjo - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:09 am:
Meanwhile: many more of us were at a reproductive rights rally over at the old state capitol. There were also signs there that said “my body, my choice” at that rally.
- JS Mill - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:10 am:
=We can find crazy rants on the left as well.=
And? Start your own blog then and post them.
=Kim Foxx=
LOL. Let me know when the ILGOP condemns these guys or the Miller’s or Jan 6.
- cermak_rd - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:16 am:
Can I just point out that the issue people have with Kim Foxx is not that she is into hate speech? It is that she is perceived to have a light hand against crime. That is not the same as being a white Christian nationalist.
One is a policy dispute. The other a values dispute.
- cermak_rd - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:24 am:
Were I a Christian, I would be really angry at the use of Christian rhetoric at the event. It can easily be perceived that all Christians are like this. I happen to know some who are not.
- H-W - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:26 am:
=They are going to knock my door down, kill my dog and shoot me before I take a COVID-19 vaccine, Fuentes said.=
Alternatively, they could just lock his doors and quarantine him. That would prevent the spread of disease, and hate speech.
- Back to the Future - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:28 am:
OW makes a good point about some GOP leaders.
- AnonymousFool - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:29 am:
-Where’s the Bluesmobile when we need it?-
It was at the Rt 66 car show two weekends ago, now where is a flying Ford Pinto. That is my question.
- MisterJayEm - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:36 am:
“These guys believe that non-white people are subhumans who should be purged to create an all-white America and Kim Foxx thinks that there should be fewer people in jails and prisons, therefore both sides are the same.”
Some of you folks are telling on yourselves.
– MrJM
- anon2 - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:37 am:
== This is a fringe actor. ==
White replacement theory used to be a fringe theory. Now it’s becoming mainstream Republican. My Republican friends have clearly moved to the right in the last decade. (Yes, Democrats have clearly moved to the left.)
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:43 am:
Jeanne Ives ran an ad considered racist, xenophobic, and promoting hate.
She nearly beat Bruce Rauner running that kind of ad… no percussions.
When people vote who they are… and after Rauner’s win, what was the cry… Rauner lost the base of the party
It’s not hard to find… in this post… no outrage by GOP leaders… Tracy’s own quote in February 2021… Mary Miller… This is not the party of Edgar, GHR, Jim Ryan, jbt, or Loleta…
- northsider (the original) - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:56 am:
Until the Chairman of the GOP loudly announces that Nazis, White supremacists, Christian supremacists, hate militias and succession supporters are not welcome or wanted in the Republican Party and will not be supported if they win a primary, I think it’s fair to say Fuentes & his friends are good Republicans.
- dan l - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:00 pm:
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Some of you folks are telling on yourselves.
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It’s funny to me that when presented with clear evidence of _exactly_ how racist, nazi-adjacent and extreme their party is, their first response is to bring up a black woman they have an irrational distaste for. It’s not even good whataboutism.
- supplied_demand - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:05 pm:
==I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut. ==
Fair, but what is it about the Republican party that make Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, and their ilk feel so welcomed? Something is drawing these people in, and it isn’t the economic policies. You should ask the Republicans you know.
- dan l - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:09 pm:
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Fair, but what is it about the Republican party that make Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, and their ilk feel so welcomed? Something is drawing these people in, and it isn’t the economic policies. You should ask the Republicans you know.
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It’s also not anything new. It’s just that these guys have become ‘mainstream’ republicans and they can’t keep them quiet anymore. I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.
- AnonymousFool - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:13 pm:
-I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.-
The Venn diagram for these two populations is one giant circle.
- So_Ill - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:16 pm:
==I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.==
The Tea Party folks became the white supremacists/Christian identity types. They were always that way, they used to just pretend to care about government spending and taxes.
Trump gave them permission to bring the white supremacy out in the open without fear of repercussions.
- dan l - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:19 pm:
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The Venn diagram for these two populations is one giant circle.
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You’re probably right.
- Facts Please - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:20 pm:
I know these folks may think differently. However, can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up. Thanks
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:26 pm:
===I know these folks may think differently===
Just can’t condemn them, can ya…
===can someone point to the…===
… the radical ideology that led to what you want seen in existing?
Deciding to not condemn these folks, “because infrastructure” or worse…
I do appreciate you telling me who you are. It’s helpful.
- Todd - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:36 pm:
==I know these folks may think differently. However, can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up. Thanks==
Their mindset, Nicholas Fuentes, allowed that type of thing to happen. That he would espouse the same kind of thinking is repugnet to most people. He should be condemned and shunned by the average person with a set of morals. And the GOP or their supporters should not be giving him any sort of platform, least they get tagged with the stench.
the answer to hate speech is more speech, denouncing it, refuting it.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:40 pm:
===He should be condemned and shunned by the average person with a set of morals. And the GOP or their supporters should not be giving him any sort of platform, least they get tagged with the stench.
the answer to hate speech is more speech, denouncing it, refuting it.===
This is the correct and “only” answer.
Less than this… is allowing a party to devolve and worse… feeding to thoughts of what could happen, in large areas of governing … if left unchecked.
Well said, - Todd -
- Norseman - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:11 pm:
=== … and yes, personal responsibility. ===
That’s a hoot. COVID has clearly indicated that the majority of the GOP doesn’t believe in personal responsibility. They believe in selfishness. To them personal responsibility is code for attacking minorities.
True personal responsibility is doing what your supposed to be doing as part of the community.
- Skeptic - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:38 pm:
==I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut. == Is that like saying some of your best friends are Republicans?
- LakeCo - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:42 pm:
Personal responsibility… like masking and vaxxing up to stop the pandemic?
- Jocko - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:00 pm:
==can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up.==
When Mary Miller can utter the phrase “Hitler was right on one thing.” and not be greeted by total silence or boos…you better take a hard look at the people in your party.
- Dotnonymous - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:19 pm:
Fuentes couldn’t bust a grape…rabble rousing punk.
- ArchPundit - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:27 pm:
===White replacement theory used to be a fringe theor
It’s now common on Fox News prime time.
- ArchPundit - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:34 pm:
===This is a fringe actor. Nothing more. The Republicans I know want the best for Illinois–they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.
Really? He has done multiple events with Paul Gosar. He showed up to a GOP event in the Quad Cities. What would distinguish him from Mary Miller?
- MisterJayEm - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:02 pm:
“These people are nothing like the Republicans whom I know (but if they can somehow help lower our taxes, then I guess we’ll tolerate them).”
Such principled conservatives.
– MrJM
- walker - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:15 pm:
How big is a horde?
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:53 pm:
===How big is a horde?===
More than a gaggle, but less than a mob.
- Todd - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 4:28 pm:
47
I would disagree a horde would be large than both. A gagle of say geese is a dozen or more. A mob would be at least a couple dozen but for likely starting at 50 a horde would be something much large that 100
- Gary Hart - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 4:39 pm:
It’s an amazing world when smart people are the enemy and dumb people are considered credible…
- danray - Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 6:20 pm:
Abe statue was looking down on this display. I imagined tears running down his face.