Tribune can’t confirm Ives’ claim
Tuesday, Oct 26, 2021 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Press release…
Former state representative and Breakthrough Ideas’ CEO Jeanne Ives presented evidence today that 1,343 DuPage County registered voters no longer lived at their registered DuPage County address when they voted on Nov. 3, 2020.
Watch the full press conference here.
By law, these votes are fraudulent and invalid, as one cannot vote from an address where one does not reside.
Ives said the 1,343 voters were identified by comparing county voter records to the National Change of Address database; they each filled out forms attesting to the federal government that they had moved prior to September 1, 2020, so the Post Office would forward their mail.
Ives was joined by lead analyst John Morrissey of Elmhurst (?), who explained the process by which his team produced the analysis. […]
Here is an example:
State Voter ID 2J7HR72Y changed addresses in March 2020 from Hinsdale to Naples Florida according to the NCOA. We verified through the County Treasurer’s office that property owned by that individual for which the individual was registered to vote from, was sold in March 2020. We have a match with the NCOA that the voter moved and a match from the Treasurer’s office that the voter sold the home. Voter records show that the voter, though, voted by mail using the Hinsdale address in November 2020. This voter remains on the latest voter list.
Morrissey is the Vice-Chair of the York Township Republican Party.
* The Tribune followed up on Ives’ example…
Adam Johnson, spokesman for DuPage County Clerk Jean Kaczmarek, said in a statement the office follows federal law in maintaining its voter rolls, using everything from death certificates to undeliverable mail to biannual change of address notifications to keep the list up to date.
He said the one voter Ives highlighted at her news conference — a person who allegedly moved to Florida from Hinsdale but still listed the old address while voting by mail — notified the clerk’s office months before the election that they had moved elsewhere within DuPage County and cast the proper ballot.
Snowbirds often have their mail forwarded.
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:00 am:
So, people can have two residences, but as long as they only vote in their primary, even though that ballot is forwarded to their secondary, everything is kosher?
Aside from everyone other than Ives, who knew?
- Commisar Gritty - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:01 am:
I’ve spoken with a fair amount of elderly constituents that have called our office. Some were at their winter homes in FL, and were stuck there because of covid. They were concerned about losing their property tax deductions. My guess is this is what’s happening, at least to some degree.
Ives has an uncanny ability to cause a sideshow, nevermind the reality.
- Montrose - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:03 am:
When you have decided there is rampant voter fraud before you start your “analysis,” it makes the analysis a lot easier.
- Citizen Kane - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:04 am:
I’d be curious to know if the NCOA database delineates between temporary or permanent Change of Address because the USPS website specifically lists them as separate categories which would make the Snowbird example moot. USPS: “If you’re moving, submit a permanent change-of-address request so your USPS® mail is properly rerouted to your new address. If you’re only relocating for a short time to visit your second home or do an extended stay with relatives, submit a temporary change-of-address request so you can receive your mail while you’re away for 15 days up to 1 year.”
- Steve Rogers - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:05 am:
I think Ives bought a pillow that’s full of kool-aid
- Pundent - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:08 am:
The goal of this nonsense is to sow distrust in the system. It doesn’t matter if it’s supported by facts. So on that account Ives has accomplished her goal. Instead of defending the existing process we should be attacking her motivations and attempts to delegitimize elections.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:11 am:
It’s always a good reminder that Ives took the oath once … against all enemies, foreign… or domestic…
And here Ives is now.
Good reminder.
- City Guy - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:12 am:
If I was the person in question, I would vote in Florida if I wanted to have a potential impact on the presidential election.
- Blanche - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:12 am:
Shouldn’t the voter registration follow whichever state they are filing with for state income taxes?
- OneMan - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:21 am:
== Shouldn’t the voter registration follow whichever state they are filing with for state income taxes? ==
You may end up filing in multiple states, my kids had to file in both the state they go to school in and Illinois.
- Give Me A Break - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:23 am:
So, we have found Bailey’s running mate and Chicago Overlord.
- Sterling - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:26 am:
Let’s pretend for a second that there is some huge voter fraud conspiracy swinging elections (there isn’t, but let’s pretend). Wouldn’t it be far more efficient to move votes from dark-blue Illinois to purplish Florida instead of the other way around?
- Colin O'Scopy - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:34 am:
I find it rich that Ives’ organization is called “Breakthrough Ideas”.
As in “Covid breakthrough”?
- Name Withheld - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 11:53 am:
If you do a search for “National Change of Address database”, there are a number of services that pop up - one of which is NationalChangeOfAddress.com, which says it’s not affiliated with the USPS. Would be interesting to find out which National Change of Address service Ives and company used.
- zatoichi - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 12:00 pm:
Ives: I’m gonna find something that finally proves fraud. Got a lot of spaghetti on my wall, but there is room for more tries.
- Steve Rogers - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 12:07 pm:
@Colonoscopy, that would apply if she were vaccinated in the first place.
- anon2 - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 12:17 pm:
It’s possible some former DuPage residents committed fraud, in which case they would be subject to prosecution.
- Politix - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:19 pm:
And I’m sure they were all democrats.
- John Lopez - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:25 pm:
=== State Voter ID 2J7HR72Y changed addresses in March 2020 State Voter ID 2J7HR72Y changed addresses in March 2020 from Hinsdale to Naples Florida according to the NCOA. We verified through the County Treasurer’s office that property owned by that individual for which the individual was registered to vote from, was sold in March 2020. Hinsdale to Naples Florida according to the NCOA. We verified through the County Treasurer’s office that property owned by that individual for which the individual was registered to vote from, was sold in March 2020. ===
Did Ives/Breakthrough Ideas check the Circuit Court in Florida to see if Voter ID 2J7HR72Y filed with the Court establishing residency in Florida?
Did Ives & Co check the appropriate local election official in Florida to see if Voter ID 2J7HR72Y registered to vote in Florida, and voted last year in the general election?
I’d think Ives would have revealed this if she had done the due diligence.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:35 pm:
Purpilish Florida?
State government legislature 78-42 Republican
State Senate 24-16 Republican
Republican Governor
27 congressman-17 Republican
Both Senators Republican
Trump margin of victory doubled 2016
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-ron-desantis-florida-60debc6e6b0bcd285d3533a441c3bd69
- I_feel_strongly_both_ways - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:50 pm:
Did State Voter ID 2J7HR72Y vote in Illinois? if so isn’t that illegal?
- ArchPundit - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:54 pm:
===Did State Voter ID 2J7HR72Y vote in Illinois? if so isn’t that illegal?
If you read the Tribune blurb right above the situation is explained as the person moved their permanent residence within DuPage County and notified the Clerk.
- City Guy - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 1:56 pm:
To Lucky Pierre, CNN “poll of polls” on Nov. 2, 2020 showed Biden winning 49% to 46%. 538 analysis showed Biden’s odds of winning Illinois 99 out of 100, and Biden’s odds of winning Florida 69 out of 100.
- MisterJayEm - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 3:34 pm:
She’s running.
– MrJM
- Yossarian - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 4:37 pm:
There is always Mrs. Oberweis. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2014-03-14-chi-oberweis-returns-to-illinois-20140314-story.html
- Bearly - Tuesday, Oct 26, 21 @ 4:48 pm:
The issue was that the county clerk never updated the voter’s address from Hinsdale to the new address in DuPage even after being contacted. At the time of the vote, the address per the registration record remained at the old Hinsdale residence.