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Flamethrowers are now apparently a thing

Thursday, May 19, 2022

* From Marni Pyke’s story about the Daily Herald editorial board sitdown with the GOP gubernatorial candidates

Irvin’s organization has targeted Bailey and Sullivan with negative advertising. Schimpf, however, warned of potential consequences.

“Unless you have a unified Illinois Republican Party behind you — both the conservative base and the suburban moderates — you simply cannot win,” he said. “If you’re running a flamethrower campaign going after other Republicans, you’re not going to be able to put the party back together.”

* Speaking of flamethrowers

I mean, that big stack of paper was still standing when it was all over. Needs more cowbell.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

60 Comments
  1. - Friendly Bob Adams - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:24 am:

    The love for military style weaponry will always be a mystery to me.

    Who says “I wasn’t going to vote for Bailey, but now that I’ve seen him with a flamethrower, he’s got my support!”?


  2. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:24 am:

    OK, start with all farm supports, take a flame thrower them.


  3. - Baloneymous - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:25 am:

    So, instead of vetoing state budgets, he’ll just flamethrower them?


  4. - Dave Dahl - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:25 am:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S12lkhgM4uA


  5. - Bruce( no not him) - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:26 am:

    ==big stack of paper was still standing==
    The budget always wins.
    Tho, I gotta admit, I dig fire.


  6. - Ron Burgundy - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:27 am:

    As to the Bailey thing, he is who he is, but leaning into it when most of the GOP primary voters are suburban/urban is certainly a choice. Maybe get better advice than what your extremely rural friends think is cool.


  7. - PublicServant - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:28 am:

    You’ll have to pry that flamethrower from Bailey’s cold dead hands, Democrats.


  8. - former cubs fan - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:31 am:

    this may seem hyperbolic, but Bailey and his flame thrower makes me a bit embarrassed to be an american. the fact that this nonsense appeals to a significant percentage of voters is appalling. i would love darren bailey’s supporters to tell me what exactly he has accomplished in springfield. what has he done to improve their lives? who has he worked with to pass legislation that addresses problems his constituents are facing? the fact is that he is part of the effort to simply undermine faith in our institutions and make people believe that government is all waste, fraud and abuse. i know many government employees. they aren’t getting wealthy, they are often experts in their specific work area. they are dedicated, and darren bailey would blow torch their years of service to the state. challenges rarely develop overnight, and they require planning and commitment to solve. a flamethrower never fixed anything, nor will darren bailey.


  9. - Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:31 am:

    Did Bailey hire Scott Fawell as a consultant on how to try to destroy government documents?


  10. - Buford - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:31 am:

    When will Darren Bailey’s war on paper cease?


  11. - Pundent - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:32 am:

    Schimpf is right. And that’s the problem with purity tests and campaigns waged on defining who the “real conservative” is. The chasm in the party between the base and moderates (a/k/a RINOs) doesn’t bode well for the party particular in Illinois. I’m not confident that any of the current candidates is capable of bridging the gap. Will Irvin or Bailey voters enthusiastically embrace the winner if their chosen candidate loses? Seems doubtful too me.


  12. - ;) - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:33 am:

    That was painful to watch. Get a refund Darren.


  13. - Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:34 am:

    Team Bailey watching the ad pitch:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XchwE9zVdnw


  14. - Linus - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:36 am:

    I can’t wait to see where this ad escalation will lead next. My money’s on scud missiles.


  15. - TheInvisibleMan - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:40 am:

    “Schimpf is right.”

    Sort of. And look where that’s gotten him within the party. Last place, looking in. Most people probably don’t even know he’s running.

    This is where he’s not quite correct;
    “you’re not going to be able to put the party back together.”

    It’s not the Bailey and Irvins who have fractured the party. The party was already fractured. Evidenced by Irvin constantly trying to be all of the fractured parts at the same time, and making himself look like a fool in doing so.


  16. - Henry Francis - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:40 am:

    Sorry, but Rabine and his steamroller is still more destructive.


  17. - Arsenal - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:40 am:

    All this prop comedy is objectively dumb.

    But also, flame throwers are objectively cool, so…


  18. - Donnie Elgin - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:42 am:

    Schimpf is not wrong - he checks the most boxes regarding GOP priorities and party loyalty. His negatives are poor statewide name recognition and 28K in the bank as of his March 2022 D-2 Quarterly Report.


  19. - Left of what - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:43 am:

    Unironically awesome


  20. - Dance Band on the Titanic - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:45 am:

    So far, we have candidates promising to take an ax, hedge clippers and a flame thrower to Springfield. Makes Bruce Rauner and his promise to “Shake Up” Springfield look like a piker.


  21. - froganon - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:51 am:

    I vote for J. Geils band although the roasting pork meme is cute. DB is a hopeless putz. The commercial is weird/stupid/. I have friends who will for DB so we’ll have an early night for the general election. They’ll vote for JB in November because they like what he’s doing.


  22. - Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:53 am:

    He can use all weaponry he likes.

    But, for the love of Mike, put some bass in that voice.
    Dude makes Mr. Haney sound like James Earl Jones.


  23. - DHS Drone - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:54 am:

    “Spaceballs the Flame Thrower, the kids love this one.”


  24. - walker - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:54 am:

    Made me laugh out loud. Thanks for the upbeat start of my day.

    (Would have liked the chaotic visuals of a chainsaw or a shotgun vs. a big pile of paper. Even a Bost-toss woulda worked better.)


  25. - Anon221 - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 9:59 am:

    What’s next??? Tannerite??? Didn’t think we would have to contend with a hardware store “arms” race for the Republican governor candidate slot this year /s


  26. - Jocko - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:01 am:

    ==I can’t wait to see where this ad escalation will lead next.==

    The next Trib GOP meeting might result in a SALT III treaty.


  27. - former cubs fan - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:02 am:

    i posted what i considered to be a reasonable comment earlier without exclamation points, and it doesn’t appear on this thread. i guess i don’t understand the editing process here. did i do something wrong?


  28. - JS Mill - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:03 am:

    =“If you’re running a flamethrower campaign going after other Republicans, you’re not going to be able to put the party back together.”=

    Is that one of those accusation confessions again. The man is killing off the Amazon rainforest with negative mailers attacking GOP candidates and tv ads.

    =Dude makes Mr. Haney sound like James Earl Jones.=

    More good stuff. He needs a lesson on elocution and voice timber.

    The sad thing is that Shimpf might be the best candidate on the gop side and nobody knows about him.

    The device is (I believe) used for burning off grass and crop stubble, so it may not be an actual design flamethrower in the military sense. Still fun to use.


  29. - former cubs fan - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:03 am:

    my bad. now its there. thank you.


  30. - Justintime - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:03 am:

    1. “Flyin Elvis” LOL
    2. While I’d love to burn and blow things up with my buddies, I think he just scared the marbles out of half the voters.
    3. Fire whoever told you that was a good idea, makes you look a little psycho.


  31. - Langhorne - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:07 am:

    “Zero based budgeting.”

    Going all the way back to Jimmy Carter’s greatest hits.
    Bob Kustra invited candidate Carter to speak to our public budgeting class about ZBB. Carter spoke for a very long 90 minutes.


  32. - New Englander - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:10 am:

    I think he’d do better in the suburbs if he didn’t speak. The nasally southern accent is no good. Get a narrator.


  33. - Ben Gazzara - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:10 am:

    Ludicrous. Laughable. Surreal.

    Basically this is a “Mr. Show” sketch from the 90s.


  34. - North Park - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:11 am:

    Hopefully those papers weren’t his farm subsidy applications.


  35. - Ron Burgundy - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:16 am:

    -I think he’d do better in the suburbs if he didn’t speak.-

    Likely one of the reasons he is running an ad in Chicago where his running mate does the talking, which is a bit weird when most people don’t know her either.


  36. - Moi - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:20 am:

    @Rich Miller “I mean, that big stack of paper was still standing when it was all over. Needs more cowbell.” You made me spit out my coffee. Thank you I need it that.


  37. - Rudy’s teeth - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:31 am:

    Bailey’s performance art is a fail. If only Bailey spent time reading, understanding, and digesting the budget…but no.

    Could never imagine Heinie Putz as governor of Illinois. And , then there is his brother Doofus.


  38. - B Team - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:35 am:

    Bailey reminds me of Ricky Bobby in Talledega Nights. I can’t take him serious at all.


  39. - No relation - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 10:55 am:

    Bailey must be channeling Arthur Brown.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE


  40. - Huh? - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 11:01 am:

    Never trust someone who doesn’t take care of their tools. Throwing the axe and hedge clippers on the ground is an unforgivable sin.


  41. - GA Watcher - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 11:05 am:

    The day after we know who won the primary elections cannot come soon enough.


  42. - Southern - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 11:21 am:

    Again, I wish candidates would put the utility vehicles away. It just upsets voters who wish they could afford one of those $30,000 vehicles — or get a forgivable PPP loan for one.


  43. - Osborne Smith III - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 11:33 am:

    Did anyone else notice Bailey’s nervous twitch in his right leg throughout that ad? The cringe factor of the flamethrower aside, the bouncing of the leg was distracting for me.

    To the ad itself, a lot of heat (yes, I see what I did there), but not enough substance. What has Darren Bailey done in Springfield to instill any confidence in the average voter outside his district that he would be an effective governor?

    Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


  44. - The Old Man - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 11:38 am:

    It is a shame that federal farm subsidies which Mr. Bailey likes are not state expenditures for him to cut or burn down.


  45. - Streator Curmudgeon - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 12:32 pm:

    Flyin’ Elvis gave me the best laugh of the day, but the whole ad reminded of Jim Carrey’s “Fire Marshal Bill.”

    The folks at the grain elevator may eat this stuff up, but it reinforces the notion that conservatives are wingnuts.

    More cowbell indeed.


  46. - MisterJayEm - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 12:35 pm:

    If you’re gonna lose eventually, might as well have some fun making ads.

    – MrJM


  47. - Anonymous - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 1:27 pm:

    “Irvin’s organization has targeted Bailey and Sullivan with negative advertising. Schimpf, however, warned of potential consequences.

    “Unless you have a unified Illinois Republican Party behind you — both the conservative base and the suburban moderates — you simply cannot win,” he said. “If you’re running a flamethrower campaign going after other Republicans, you’re not going to be able to put the party back together.””

    If the Illinois GOP had any sense, this Schimpf would be their guy. I Listened to the DH GOP candidates’ forum.


  48. - Ryan - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 1:36 pm:

    Look what farm subsidies and forgiven PPP loans will buy you.


  49. - Big Dipper - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 1:39 pm:

    ==his may seem hyperbolic, but Bailey and his flame thrower makes me a bit embarrassed to be an american. the fact that this nonsense appeals to a significant percentage of voters is appalling.==

    Last Fourth of July Devore proudly posted pics of a ridiculous amount of large illegal fireworks. These guys are overgrown children but want to run a State.


  50. - Skeptic - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 2:01 pm:

    This reminds me of the old SCTV skit with Gunny Rabbit and Mr. Green Fatigues.


  51. - thechampaignlife - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 2:19 pm:

    ===makes you look a little psycho===

    That’s a feature, not a bug, in the primary.


  52. - thechampaignlife - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 2:27 pm:

    ===I have friends who will for DB so we’ll have an early night for the general election. They’ll vote for JB in November because they like what he’s doing.===

    It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for em. Didn’t work out too well in 2016.


  53. - DuPage gal - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 2:41 pm:

    So, Irvin buys the straw poll in Lake County, is found to have a supporter stuff the ballot box in Northfield and now gets his girlfriend out of trouble with the law. Oh, he’ll make a fine upstanding governor….NOT


  54. - low level - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 3:04 pm:

    Is it just me or is Darren Bailey’s voice one of the most annoying you’ve ever heard?


  55. - We've never had one before - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 3:29 pm:

    >>>> What’s next??? Tannerite???

    He did that last year, it was great to see but he did not use enough.

    It has been suggested that Darren should have used a foil tray for a chaffing dish in order to hold enough tannerite under the budget.


  56. - Bench Mob - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 3:43 pm:

    guns are so 2020


  57. - James in Chicago - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 3:52 pm:

    Darren Bailey just won my primary vote. There is no way this fool could win a general election this year. Irvin, is a real threat as long as his has billions from Kenny. Also, Ken Griffith is threatening to leave IL if crime doesn’t get better. Suddenly, I’m hoping that that crime doesn’t get any better… for just long enough. But I fear Kenny is just teasing us.


  58. - bobo - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 4:32 pm:

    Irvin says he won’t cut a pardon for Madigan; doesn’t Irvin know the Illinois governor cannot pardon someone convicted of a federal crime?


  59. - North Park - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 4:35 pm:

    ==There is no way this fool could win a general election this year.==

    I thought the same thing about Trump. Be careful what you wish for, yadda yadda yadda.


  60. - Da big bad wolf - Thursday, May 19, 22 @ 8:05 pm:

    Doesn’t Bailey care about global warming? He could’ve recycled that paper.


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