Illinois above water in the brain drain battle
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2022 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Washington Post…
States invest in public colleges (and give nonprofit status to private ones) to build a better-educated workforce. But what if graduates move away?
The biggest losers of that kind of brain drain are small, rural states — Vermont, West Virginia, New Hampshire — places lacking the urban hubs that offer opportunity to newly minted Bachelors, according to an innovative new data source that uses LinkedIn to estimate how many college graduates stay in-state.
The nation’s capital produces relatively few graduates of its own but draws heavily from the rest of the country, making it one of brain drain’s biggest winners, according to the analysis by economists at the University of North Carolina, the W.E. Upjohn Institute, the University of Michigan and the University of Chicago. The District appears to draw in six times as many graduates as it produces, but data limitations mean that could be an overestimate, the report’s authors say.
While the District is an extreme outlier, it sets a pattern. The other winners are primarily states with cities as large, dynamic and regionally vital as D.C. That would include New York, Washington, California, Illinois, Georgia, Texas, Minnesota and Massachusetts.
* Selected states from the chart…
Where the brains drain
Percentage difference between college grads produced in a state and college grads living there…
- Socially DIstant watcher - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:06 pm:
Someone tell Bailey. If your kids get a good scholarship offer from Iowa or Alabama, take it. The kids are probably moving back here anyway.
- Give Me A Break - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:10 pm:
How could this be? I’m told the state is a mess, people are leaving by the thousands, no one wants to come to this Hell Hole.
- Homebody - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:15 pm:
Just walking around Lincoln Park or Lakeview on an autumn Saturday makes this obvious. So many different B1G bars for a reason.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:17 pm:
Wait, wait, wait…
Aren’t people leaving Illinois?
===If your kids get a good scholarship offer from Iowa or Alabama===
Illinois/Chicagoland is a place people want to be abd come back to live.
Student debt follows you wherever you go.
Why pay for the honor of a sheepskin where it’s the value of a mortgage… needlessly?
- Ok - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:21 pm:
Gotta hurt for all those other states to be losing to the twin cities…
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:22 pm:
This is actually a bad thing. Smart people are a pin in the neck,their higher incomes increase the cost of housing and other stuff./s
- Ok - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:23 pm:
If we broke out Chicagoland vs. ‘downstate,’ you would see both in the 40s (+ and -).
- Walker - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:29 pm:
Been true for decades. But the spelunkers will keep searching for bad news about Illinois and get paid to spout it.
- Norseman - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:38 pm:
Good news is, well it’s good. Go IL
Now we’ll see if the Spelunkers of Misery have hired creative enough college grads to come up with a downer spin.
- Almost the Weekend - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:45 pm:
Chicago is going to age better and better, especially with Lake Michigan nearby.
Pretty soon going to be seeing Alabama and Iowa requiring scholarship students to stay in state for several years upon graduation lol
- Dysfunction Junction - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:47 pm:
Hmmmm… why would highly-educated above average earners come back live in a high-tax hellhole once they’ve experienced four years of freedom and comfort in a right-to-work paradise? Stockholm syndrome, I suppose.
- Proud Papa Bear - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 12:59 pm:
I’m originally from Michigan and moved here with my family in 1983. For almost 40 years I’ve seen people take advantage of Michigan’s great college system, then move to the Chicagoland area to live.
When I’m in Wisconsin, where my son goes to college, the talk I often hear is the same. Kids stay in state for well-funded college and then leave.
- Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 1:05 pm:
Red state exodus, leaving low income states who strip rights and protections, for higher-income states. That would be the way red state economics works, where those who remain are more apt to swallow that they have to sacrifice for the wealthiest to bestow an economy upon them.
- Chip - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 2:52 pm:
OK. Young minds are coming to Illinois. That’s great….but people making money are leaving:
https://smartasset.com/data-studies/where-high-earning-households-are-moving-2022
“Illinois, Massachusetts and Virginia had the third-, fourth- and fifth-largest net outflows of high-earning households in 2020, followed by New Jersey, Maryland, the District of Columbia, Minnesota and Ohio.”
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 2:55 pm:
===… .but people making money are leaving===
… being replaced by college educated, young workers.
I don’t think you grasp any of this, LOL
I don’t think you see much positive in things, like someone who believes IPI
- Walker - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 2:59 pm:
Yeah Chip these are the states with the high earning households
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 3:14 pm:
==but==
There’s always the “yeah, but” people. There’s never an ounce of good news for those people. It’s all bad all the time. I really do feel sorry for those that think like that.
- Sir Reel - Tuesday, Sep 13, 22 @ 4:30 pm:
“People making more money” than who? If it’s People making more money than other people in Illinois, then you sorta have an argument. If it’s people making more money than people in other states or the national average, then you don’t because people in Illinois tend to make more than the national average so people leaving Illinois are gonna make more money. Duh