“I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.” - James Baldwin
- Brave New World - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:38 am:
“From the South Africa-born trillionaire”
Yeah, that kind of explains why he loves it here so much. No where else is that going to happen.
- Jack in Chatham - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:57 am:
Last week a Twitter account was created to follow President Trump’s stock trades from public documents available quarterly. This account was Suspended the same day for not adhering to Twitter rules and standards. Twitter or X is not a Free Speech forum but something else. Elon Musk has a dozen children mostly from different women and travelled with anticipated excitement to Jeffrey Epstein’s Caribbean Island more than once that we know about. I am not sure most of our founding fathers would invite Elon Musk to their house for Dinner. I think they would shun him as a degenerate rather than showering his companies with tax credits, grants, loans and no bid contracts. I do enjoy watching videos of SpaceX rockets landing upright; very cool.
Some have suggested that he’s done more, individually, to reduce climate change than any human being. It wasn’t just making an electric vehicle, but building out charging stations across the nation.
Love does not ignore faults with the beloved. It asks the beloved to become better.
Musk’s idea of love is slavery to the powerful, with no reciprocation. It demands ‘tough love’/destruction against those it hates, but eternal forgiveness and no shaming of the faults flaunted.
I love the values upon which the United States of America was founded and those who seek to uphold them. I don’t love the people and political movements who have betrayed those values for the sake of power and money. Musk is benefitting financially from the betrayers and doesn’t possess or understand positive values.
Yeah, I haven’t felt too patriotic since trump took over. Sorry. This is a great place to live but the corruption of the prez, his family and enablers kinda dampens my enthusiasm lately. Once they’re gone I’m sure I’ll perk up.
Funny Musk talking about patriotism. He did more to platform foreign actors who spread misinformation than any single person in the US. I don’t think helping Russia and their bot farm create disinformation is patriotic. Maybe some do. But I don’t. He also bankrolled a malignant narcissist to an election win. Same narcissistic that has helped Russia at almost every turn. Then bight a position in government and gutted many agencies that help support our most vulnerable and did goodness knows what with private data. That also seems less than patriotic to me.
icky boyzzz. but I’m much more worried about who is here in the US with the chatter around the recent Angel family hearing. the ridiculous reaction of Cong. Jayapal to the Gorman mom whose daughter was murdered near Loyola Universit, truly shocking video.
“goofball being goofy” is certainly one way of saying a blatant racist who uses his platform to spew eugenics and anti-immigrant hate. just check his X profile on any given day.
He does love America. It’s just a version of it that involves bankrolling far-right movements abroad, helping himself to the private data of millions of citizens, and gutting the aid programs that benefitted millions of the poorest people on earth.
“goofball being goofy” is certainly one way of saying a blatant racist who uses his platform to spew eugenics and anti-immigrant hate. just check his X profile on any given day.
That’s not what I said…although I totally agree with your accusations.
Loving or hating is free speech (free thought maybe) - unless we live in a police state where even our feelings and thoughts are monitored and controlled, I don’t see how this is practical. The only reason to pay attention to this is so that folks realize the CEO of this highly valued company may not be totally on the level.
===Some have suggested that he’s done more, individually, to reduce climate change than any human being.
Wouldn’t that be Chinese EV Makers who have made far more EVs and supported infrastructure world-wide? It’s a weird habit of those in the US to assume it is all that matters.
—Elon Musk has strong views on America after becoming America’s richest citizen and largest taxpayer.
That’s questionable given most of his income is taken in stocks and equity which he obtains loans against for his expenses. His income tax is as low as zero in many years.
- West Side the Best Side - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 5:47 pm:
Anyone who doesn’t pay their fair share of taxes after heading an agency that cost people their livelihoods should be exiled immediately. A person like that doesn’t seem like they love Americans much.
The modern AI data center boom represents the physical realization of the 2003 Pentagon concept known as Total Information Awareness (TIA). By combining global mass data collection with advanced artificial intelligence, today’s hyper-scale data centers have evolved into the centralized brains required to aggregate, analyze, and map pattern recognition across massive global data silos.
On September 30, 2003, Congress officially cut off TIA’s funding and the Information Awareness Office (with the Senate voting unanimously against it) because of its unpopular perception by the general public and the media.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:32 am:
These people confuse dislike of Donald Trump and the Republicans with hating America.
- Hmmmm - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:33 am:
“I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.” - James Baldwin
- Brave New World - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:38 am:
“From the South Africa-born trillionaire”
Yeah, that kind of explains why he loves it here so much. No where else is that going to happen.
- Friendly Bob Adams - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:39 am:
The whole 250th celebration did not seem to inject these guys with a positive vibe.
- Paying Attention - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:41 am:
Yes, everyone knows Mark Twain was a traitor and beneath contempt…
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/07/mark-twain-america-anniversary-critique/687718/
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:45 am:
Born into conflict gem mining, Elon Musk has yet to come within thirty percent of meeting one Tesla production goal.
If it wasn’t for the four billion plus NASA contracts, SpaceX couldn’t launch a bottle rocket.
He is everything wrong with the American dream.
- 47th Ward - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:49 am:
Musk is simply reflecting the fact that a lot of immigrants feel a deep love for this country.
- Brave New World - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:57 am:
==He is everything wrong with the American dream.==
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/technology/spacex-ipo-employee-millionaires.html
- Jack in Chatham - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:57 am:
Last week a Twitter account was created to follow President Trump’s stock trades from public documents available quarterly. This account was Suspended the same day for not adhering to Twitter rules and standards. Twitter or X is not a Free Speech forum but something else. Elon Musk has a dozen children mostly from different women and travelled with anticipated excitement to Jeffrey Epstein’s Caribbean Island more than once that we know about. I am not sure most of our founding fathers would invite Elon Musk to their house for Dinner. I think they would shun him as a degenerate rather than showering his companies with tax credits, grants, loans and no bid contracts. I do enjoy watching videos of SpaceX rockets landing upright; very cool.
- Streator Curmudgeon - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 10:57 am:
“If you want to know what God thinks about money, just look at the people He gives it to.”
Dorothy Parker
- Downstate - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:03 am:
—He is everything wrong with the American dream.
Some have suggested that he’s done more, individually, to reduce climate change than any human being. It wasn’t just making an electric vehicle, but building out charging stations across the nation.
- BE - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:05 am:
Love does not ignore faults with the beloved. It asks the beloved to become better.
Musk’s idea of love is slavery to the powerful, with no reciprocation. It demands ‘tough love’/destruction against those it hates, but eternal forgiveness and no shaming of the faults flaunted.
- The Dude Abides - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:11 am:
=It demands ‘tough love’/destruction against those it hates, but eternal forgiveness and no shaming of the faults flaunted.=
I prefer “capitalism for the poor, socialism for the rich”
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:17 am:
Brave New World-
There were a lot of “millionaires” employed by Enron.
- Norseman - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:20 am:
I love the values upon which the United States of America was founded and those who seek to uphold them. I don’t love the people and political movements who have betrayed those values for the sake of power and money. Musk is benefitting financially from the betrayers and doesn’t possess or understand positive values.
- Loyal Virus - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:29 am:
John Prine spot on: I really love America. I just don’t know how to get there anymore.
- Jocko - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:30 am:
This is the same man who said “the biggest weakness of the West was empathy.”
Performative patriotism at its finest.
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:33 am:
“Some have suggested that he’s done more, individually, to reduce climate change than any human being”
Some have suggested Trump is a true statesman.
Some of the people, all of the time.
- Cool Papa Bell - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:38 am:
The word “disloyal” here bothers me perhaps the most.
Musk should further tell us how one proves loyalty.
- Siualum - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:42 am:
Yeah, I haven’t felt too patriotic since trump took over. Sorry. This is a great place to live but the corruption of the prez, his family and enablers kinda dampens my enthusiasm lately. Once they’re gone I’m sure I’ll perk up.
- Matty - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 11:58 am:
As an American who wanted the US team to lose out of the World Cup ASAP, does that make me a traitor who should be exiled immediately?
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 12:09 pm:
Funny Musk talking about patriotism. He did more to platform foreign actors who spread misinformation than any single person in the US. I don’t think helping Russia and their bot farm create disinformation is patriotic. Maybe some do. But I don’t. He also bankrolled a malignant narcissist to an election win. Same narcissistic that has helped Russia at almost every turn. Then bight a position in government and gutted many agencies that help support our most vulnerable and did goodness knows what with private data. That also seems less than patriotic to me.
- Amalia - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 12:26 pm:
icky boyzzz. but I’m much more worried about who is here in the US with the chatter around the recent Angel family hearing. the ridiculous reaction of Cong. Jayapal to the Gorman mom whose daughter was murdered near Loyola Universit, truly shocking video.
- Leslie K - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 12:40 pm:
JS Mill +1
- Steve - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:05 pm:
Elon Musk has strong views on America after becoming America’s richest citizen and largest taxpayer.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:12 pm:
===strong views===
That’s one way of putting it, I suppose.
- Gopher Prairie - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:42 pm:
Sinclair Lewis once observed that he loved America, but he did not like it.
- btowntruth from forgottonia - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:46 pm:
Consider the source.
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:46 pm:
Fight still coming.
- ChicagoShane - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:55 pm:
“and largest taxpayer”
Is he though?
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 1:58 pm:
Exiled to where?…somewhere where the disloyal can concentrate?
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 2:03 pm:
Musk should read, respect and obey the first, eighth, and fourteenth amendments to the American Constitution…if he really loves America.
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 2:06 pm:
All the money in the world can’t prevent a goofball from being goofy.
- ZC - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 2:18 pm:
“… and I shall determine who loves America, and my views shall not be contradicted.”
He’s so creepy.
- Hmmmm - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 2:53 pm:
“goofball being goofy” is certainly one way of saying a blatant racist who uses his platform to spew eugenics and anti-immigrant hate. just check his X profile on any given day.
- Screwtape - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 3:11 pm:
He does love America. It’s just a version of it that involves bankrolling far-right movements abroad, helping himself to the private data of millions of citizens, and gutting the aid programs that benefitted millions of the poorest people on earth.
Thanks for the charging stations, I guess?
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 3:17 pm:
“goofball being goofy” is certainly one way of saying a blatant racist who uses his platform to spew eugenics and anti-immigrant hate. just check his X profile on any given day.
That’s not what I said…although I totally agree with your accusations.
- Boone's is Back - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 3:27 pm:
You can love America and still criticize our government. It’s actually our duty.
- Incandenza - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 3:40 pm:
Loving or hating is free speech (free thought maybe) - unless we live in a police state where even our feelings and thoughts are monitored and controlled, I don’t see how this is practical. The only reason to pay attention to this is so that folks realize the CEO of this highly valued company may not be totally on the level.
- Excitable Boy - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 4:34 pm:
- the CEO of this highly valued company may not be totally on the level. -
That’s a polite way of putting it. A phrase involving a dog’s hind leg comes to mind.
- Archpundit - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 5:24 pm:
===Some have suggested that he’s done more, individually, to reduce climate change than any human being.
Wouldn’t that be Chinese EV Makers who have made far more EVs and supported infrastructure world-wide? It’s a weird habit of those in the US to assume it is all that matters.
- Archpundit - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 5:27 pm:
—Elon Musk has strong views on America after becoming America’s richest citizen and largest taxpayer.
That’s questionable given most of his income is taken in stocks and equity which he obtains loans against for his expenses. His income tax is as low as zero in many years.
- West Side the Best Side - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 5:47 pm:
Anyone who doesn’t pay their fair share of taxes after heading an agency that cost people their livelihoods should be exiled immediately. A person like that doesn’t seem like they love Americans much.
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 6:18 pm:
The modern AI data center boom represents the physical realization of the 2003 Pentagon concept known as Total Information Awareness (TIA). By combining global mass data collection with advanced artificial intelligence, today’s hyper-scale data centers have evolved into the centralized brains required to aggregate, analyze, and map pattern recognition across massive global data silos.
- Dotnonymous x - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 6:27 pm:
On September 30, 2003, Congress officially cut off TIA’s funding and the Information Awareness Office (with the Senate voting unanimously against it) because of its unpopular perception by the general public and the media.
- Ducky LaMoore - Tuesday, Jul 7, 26 @ 7:19 pm:
So… he’s… self-deporting…?