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Late afternoon, early evening updates - 42-74-2. Quinn tax hike fails
Sunday, May 31, 2009 - Posted by Rich Miller * 5:14 pm - The House is taking up the “Quinncome tax” plan. The plan brings in $4.5 billion in new income taxes. Listen or watch here. * 5:22 pm - Rep. John Fritchey just said he won’t vote for this tax hike bill because it’s inadequate. He apparently prefers the Senate’s bill. * 5:23 pm-Democratic Rep. Julie Hamos, who has become more vocal about her disatisfaction with Speaker Madigan’s leadership, was asked about Madigan’s leadership on the income tax issue. Watch… * 5:24 pm - Once again Patterson is live-blogging a tax hike floor debate. * 6:15 - 42-74-2. The 2 present votes were Will Davis and David Miller - the two top proponents of the Senate plan. Rep Karen May seemed to speak in favor of the bill. “We need bridges and roads but we’re leaving people in the ditch” or something close to that. She voted “No.” * 6:30 pm - The campaign finance reform bill is now up. * 6:39 pm - Leader Currie said she will call the human services 50% cut appropriations bill…
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- hmm - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 5:29 pm:
Can’t expect anything better from fritchey’ I guess.
- Princess - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:13 pm:
will they now call the senate plan?
- Jr - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:14 pm:
All you MJM fans here, his 6 year fight with Blago has cost him control of his HDems. They are all over the map and his family concern of trying to promote little Lisa is hurting all Dems. He has been down there too long (38 yrs, with 26 in leadership). Like Obama said in 08, Change we can believe in!
- Brave souls? - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:18 pm:
Looking for 18 brave souls.
- hmm - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:21 pm:
Wow, 74 people voted to release prisoners back onto the street… (cue ominous music)
Going to be a long couple years.
- Anonymous - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:22 pm:
Why did Rep. May vote No? didnt she give a speech in favor of the tax hike?
- Bill - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:23 pm:
==Looking for 18 brave souls.==
Good luck with that.
- DuPage Dave - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:40 pm:
I think most would agree that the circumstances this year- the first post-Blagojevich budget, a batch of “reform” bills, a huge deficit- are certainly unusual. However, my perception is that things are much more chaotic and disorganized than they need to be.
Who stands to gain from huge budget cuts? No one. Who stands to gain from reducing state services? No one. Who stands to gain from laying off a few thousand state workers? No one. So why does this seem the direction we are heading?
Quinn has come across as good-hearted but ineffective. Other than the day of his swearing in, Cullerton has yet to make a positive impression. And Madigan has failed to enhance the family name in any way.
Is the problem simply that no one has Blagojevich to kick around anymore? It was easy for everyone to be united against him, but his absence serves to point out the lack of leadership across the board.
Please prove me wrong, folks!
- thurber - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:47 pm:
What happened or what is happening with the fumigation bill (SB1333)? I assume it was not called to the floor for a vote.
- jimbo - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:51 pm:
The “R’s” stick together & stick it to state workers and citizens. They need to remember who it is that will put feet on the street at election time. Their fellow cacus members don’t vote for them.
- Better late than never - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:52 pm:
Who’s the goofy trekkie and how did he get elected?
- another cliff hanger - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:54 pm:
maybe those 750k people winters’ claims have left IL jumped on the Enterprise.
- Bill - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 6:57 pm:
jimbo,
Normally I would agree with you but this time it is entirely the dems fault. If Madigan was worried about his targets before he just created a whole bunch of new ones. I think he must think he can get them re-elected all by himself.
Anyway, its still early yet. Anything can and probably will happen.
- Anon - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:00 pm:
Are those trick questions Dave? Who stands to gain? How about every tax paying citizen of Illinois who will keep more of their hard earned money in their own pockets rather than wasted on an inefficient government that refuses to live within its means. Seems pretty simple to me.
I posted in the last thread abut how we are already losing 40 to 50 percent of our wages to government taxation? How much is too much? What happens when this passes and revenue continues to fall because of a continued deterioration of the economy, business leaving the state, tax avoidance starts to run rampant? Is 8 percent okay? How about 10 percent? When does it end? And nobody seems to talk about the corporate rate hike. Do any of you realize that these taxes are passed right on through to the customer via increased prices? And in addition to that, we will be paying higher sales taxes on the higher prices we will be paying? Again, when does it end? How much is too much?
- Six Degrees of Separation - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:03 pm:
Jimbo
If the D’s were as unified, theyd’ve passed the budget and sent it to the guv with 10 votes to spare.
- wordslinger - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:12 pm:
Hamos is getting some nice “North Shore Independent” image face-time.
But it’s a beautiful, sunny spring day. Who’s watching?
- DuPage Dave - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:21 pm:
Hey Anon- think up a name- it won’t cost you 40 to 50 percent of anything !!!
- lake county democrat - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:29 pm:
I know it’s too good to last, but watching Hamos and the other 14 not go along with Madigan’s reform farce brightened my weekend as much as today’s sunny weather.
- jimbo - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:42 pm:
We will hold the “D’s” accountable too. The days of any party thinking they will automatically have the vote of state workers is over. Blago made everyone start paying attention.
- Patiently waiting - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 7:55 pm:
I can see some comments tomorrow already. Daddy may be working against his daughter. Message to MM: politics the way you knew it is over. Bring on change.
- Steve - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 8:40 pm:
The choice is government cutting spending or families cutting spending to pay for the higher taxes. All House members who voted against the increase deserve our praise. It time to make cuts in government spending.
- Bobs yer - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 9:27 pm:
sad way to govern, but I’ve always thought the best way to get good government is to reduce the available revenue. That way, they have to prioritize….what really needs to be funded?
- Pot calling kettle - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 9:41 pm:
So when the cut bill is up for a vote, the R’s vote against! How do they propose we pay for such things?
And, again, to all of you opposed to the tax hike and in favor of cuts. You have been enjoying a state funded by borrowing. The loans now need to be paid. You got the benefits, so quit complaining and pony up. (Even with huge cuts, the debts still need to be paid, and they are over $50 billion.) The other thing you need to do is go to wonkish.com, prepare your cut budget, and share it with the rest of us. Typing “cut” into a blog is easy, living the talk is not.
- Truth - Sunday, May 31, 09 @ 9:57 pm:
In the words of the great Rodney King Why can’t we all just get along?