Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Faux populism
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Faux populism

Friday, Oct 30, 2009

* The Tribune editorial board makes a good point today

Just when it looks like lawmakers have mustered up the courage to end the gratuitous free-rides-for-seniors program, Gov. Pat Quinn has thrown a monkey wrench into the works.

With a bill meant to ease the transit systems’ financial woes moving in the General Assembly, Quinn called Thursday for a moratorium on fare hikes in return for its passage. Besides rescinding ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s gratuitous senior freebie program, the bill would allow the Regional Transportation Authority to borrow up to $400 million to cover operating costs for the area’s bus and rail systems.

You read that right: The governor is OK with letting the RTA borrow up to $400 million for day-to-day expenses, but he wants no part of any plan to balance the budget by requiring people to pay a fair share of their rides.

Wait’ll they hear the rest of the story. Oof.

The proposed fare hikes are steep - $3 L rides, up from $2.25, for instance. But riders ought to help shoulder the burden. So should Mayor Daley, for that matter, and everyone else, as long as we’re passing along responsibilities.

Quinn’s idea for a two-year fare freeze is bad public policy because it’s an unfunded mandate. We’ll give you some borrowing authority to get you through this mess, but we won’t fix the now-broken “fix” that we did last year and, oh, you can’t raise fares for two years even if revenues crash even more.

The danger here is that Quinn is setting the stage for far deeper service and job cuts. Mass transit is a hugely valuable asset and Quinn is willing to allow it to further deteriorate because he doesn’t want to wear the jacket for a fare hike.

Almost nobody ever demands that expressways and city streets always operate in the black. That’s just a silly notion to most people. Yet, public transportation constantly has to face down a stupid double standard. They’re supposed to make money, or at least come close to breaking even. And when they don’t, they get chopped. Foolish.

Either provide a real funding solution or allow mass transit to at least cover some of their losses themselves. This faux populism is plain goofy. A real populist would make sure that people could take the bus and train to work.

* Other Statehouse news…

* Quote of the Day: “Stick it to granny and poor little uncle Willy. I refuse to screw the senior citizens of the state of Illinois.”

* Bill to cut seniors’ free transit rides stalls

* Free bus rides for all seniors could end

* Lawmakers reconsider free rides for seniors

* Stroger tax could be easier to undo

* Change in Cook County Veto Rules Sent to Governor

* Senate moves to lower threshold for Stroger override

* Illinois legislature: Tax-minded lawmakers vote to undercut Cook County chief’s veto power

* New `STAR bonds’ plan would target entertainment, pay neighbors

* House OKs tougher cemetery oversight

* Governor gets bill to require prison time for gang members with guns

* Senate gives Quinn green light to pick leaders for key state agencies

- Posted by Rich Miller        

21 Comments
  1. - Stallion - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:38 am:

    Lil O’ Ricky, he is a class act. If he only started thinkeh he could be another Lincoln, if he only had a brain !!!


  2. - The Doc - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:45 am:

    This is yet another example of why Quinn doesn’t appear to be ready for prime time. The irony is that his threat captures the essence of Blago on the very same issue that was seen by virtually all as a transparent attempt to pander to a core constituency.

    Painting the mass transit systems into a corner isn’t helpful to anyone, governor. Sign the bill and move on, please.


  3. - phocion - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:49 am:

    ==Almost nobody ever demands that expressways and city streets always operate in the black. That’s just a silly notion to most people.==

    Actually, Rich, expressways and city streets are paid for through user fees - namely the gas tax, and to some extent driver’s license and registration fees. Those who use roads pay for them directly (the additional revenues coming in to pay for the capital plan also pays for things like parks and libraries).

    I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a subsidy for public transit. After all, it reduces congestion and minimizes the need for more expressways and roads. But let’s stick with the facts. Roads, bridges, and highways are funded by the people who use them.


  4. - Will County Woman - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:49 am:

    This is why Quinn is not good for the governor’s office.

    I understand that he means well, but…

    He thinks with his heart. Hence his heart is ours he says. But, governing requires a governor to think with his head more than his heart, make tough decisions in the state’s interest (not just his political interests), stick to them, be disciplined and firm, and say no to excess often.

    If it’s not okay for Metra or CTA to raise fares to generate needed revenue, does Quinn really want to raise taxes 50 percent to generate revenue for the state?

    I want to be consistent here… if it’s okay to raise taxes or raise fares, all I ask as a taxpayer or consumer is that it comes after serious cuts have been made and bloat/waste has been eradicated or seriously reduced first, and other ways to generate revenue are being seriously explored as well.


  5. - wordslinger - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:51 am:

    Borrow $400 million for operating costs? That’s a Big Bowl of Wrong. At the very least, it’s a backdoor tax increase because sooner-rather-than-later you’ll need new revenues to cover the nut.

    I’ve been surprised that during an era of Dem control there hasn’t been a revisiting of the RTA funding formula. There are a lot of empty PACE buses rolling around the suburbs.


  6. - Levois - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:55 am:

    How can the state wear the jacket on fare hikes? Public transit is basically a local issue anyway. The only reason the state would wear the jacket for fare hikes by transit agencies is when the state is unwilling to bail out a needed service such as transit.


  7. - Lee - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:57 am:

    Quinn seems to running into the same problem affecting Obama. It is a lot easier to run as populist/progressive than to actually have to govern.


  8. - The Doc - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 10:59 am:

    ==But let’s stick with the facts. Roads, bridges, and highways are funded by the people who use them.==

    You’re omitting a crucial point here, phocion. Roads, bridges, and highways are also funded substantially by people that don’t use them.

    And if one concedes that roads and such do operate in the black, it can be argued that the formulae for funding them is skewed heavily in their favor based on an outdated model, and at the expense of mass transit.


  9. - Will County Woman - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:04 am:

    @Word
    Quit picking on suburban Pace!

    I’m sure there are plenty of CTA buses roaming city streets at low or no ridership levels.

    As a case in point, I’m not sure why the #146 CTA bs for example needs to run a big ole articulated buses midday with all of 5 riders on it going south or north bound.

    But, your point is taken. It’s just not fair to single out PACE when the CTA is guilty of waste/bloat too.


  10. - PalosParkBob - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:04 am:

    Please, Rich, you’re much smarter than trying to make an analogy between a labor heavy public transit system and “expressways and streets”.

    If you want a fair and reasonable analogy, try comparing public transit with the tollways, where the mostly suburban and business users do make it operate in the black.

    Another example might be water and sewer service, which in most municipalities is close to self supporting through fees.

    While this year is (hopefully) an anomally because of the failed Obama “economic stimulus” and “Obamacare” plans inhibiting private sector job growth, a truly independent, professional, apolitical plan for reforming the CTA/RTA/PACE needs to be performed and implemented as a pre-condition to any additional taxpayer funding.

    Changes to state collective bargaining rules to prohibit increases in salaries and benefits beyond a percentage of new revenues also needs to be enacted.

    Add to the fact that the city of Chicago provides far less than most major cities for mass transit ($5 million from Hizzoner compared to about $280 million for NYC), and it’s pretty clear that to correct this “structural deficit” a modification to the CTA/RTA structure is needed.

    I’ve seen no action to make the CTA/RTA/PACE more accountable in it’s annual deficit production.

    Unfair bailouts and fare increases just address the symptoms, not the disease.

    It’s time to address the root causes of the problems, but the spineless GA is unlikely to grow a pair and do what needs to be done in mass transit.


  11. - Red Ranger - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:08 am:

    Its just crazy not to allow the CTA to raise rates. As a daily rider of the CTA, I know the bargain I am getting. Think about it, even at $6 a day, its a deal when compared to a car. $6 or more a day from O’hare, or Lincoln Park or the South Side to the Loop is so much better than a car. I know the arguments against raising fairs, but commuting costs at around $150 a month on the CTA is a deal by any measure.


  12. - ChicagoMatt - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:17 am:

    I know this may not be the smartest decision, but a fare increase would really hit us in Chicago hard. This may not be the right decision, but there has to be some sort of change besides raising fares. I believe that the fare increase would inflict costs of almost $600 a year for an individual that uses the train once a day. That’s a fairly hefty amount. His heart is in the right place, but maybe there are other methods.


  13. - Plutocrat03 - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:19 am:

    It would seem to me that everyone benefits from the roadway infrastructure. Without roads, bridges and highways there would be no way to move goods and services throughout the country. Furthermore all mass transport exclusive of rail based systems uses the same roads, bridges and highways that the privately owned transport does. I cannot imagine a single individual who does not benefit from this system which is primarily paid for by user fees.

    The rub seems to come from the fact that there are an enormous number of users who do not have any kind of mass transit available to them who believe the mass transit users need to absorb more of the operating costs than they currently do.

    I have not recently seen anyone ask that mass transit riders pay all the costs for their transport. Capital costs seem to be waived and the fare box collects less than half of the operating budget. The question is how much of a subsidy is enough?


  14. - Anonymous45 - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:22 am:

    The RTA is not run by just Democrats-there are a number of counties in the northern part of IL that are run by Republicans-intergovernmental jousting especially between the RTA and CTA is part of the reason the situation lingers-this is an issue of lack of cooperation, adequate state funding, and fiscal management by the transit agencies-don’t just blame Quinn and the Dems-there’s plenty of blame to go around…


  15. - phocion - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:29 am:

    ==You’re omitting a crucial point here, phocion. Roads, bridges, and highways are also funded substantially by people that don’t use them.==

    O.K. Doc, I’m curious about your claim here. MFT funds are what pays for roads and bridges. If you pay a motor fuel tax, you are driving. If you’re driving, you use highways, roads and bridges. How is it that people who don’t use them pay for them?

    Plutocrat03 - your points are well stated. We all benefit from a sound transportation infrastructure even though we don’t all pay for it.


  16. - Scooby - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 11:58 am:

    Isn’t giving the CTA money in exchange for a committment to not raise fees a funded mandate? I’m not clear on how that’s an unfunded mandate.


  17. - Rich Miller - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 12:00 pm:

    It’s unfunded because it is a two-year freeze and the “solution” probably won’t even solve the problem this year.


  18. - Will County Woman - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 1:00 pm:

    Chicago Matt, I agree with you and understand where you are coming from. The fare hikes are going to hurt many people, but having the state borrow a ton of money to appease the CTA doesn’t help because as we have seen too many times in the past the CTA is never satiated, and will only keep coming back year after year.

    The state has no money to bail/help anything out, let alone the CTA. The state is going to have to say no to the CTA. The CTA, like the state, needs to prioritize and get its fiscal house in order.

    Once the state and CTA gets some money, whether borrowed or as raised revenue, they just keep spending like there is no tomorrow.

    The state needs to stop being an enabler for CTA fiscal mismanagement etc.


  19. - VanillaMan - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 2:31 pm:

    Quinn is wrong to not rescind Blagojevich’s ridiculous freebie to seniors, and Quinn is also wrong to borrow hundreds of millions in order to make ends meet. If this is what Pat Quinn thinks passes for solutions, or even trying to work towards solutions, he isn’t the right guy to be a governor.


  20. - Jim Watkins - Friday, Oct 30, 09 @ 4:01 pm:

    The issue’s above are on key, but Gov Quinn did not write SB941, which does have in it to borrow up to $400 million for operating RTA transit systems. The bill also had in in it that Paratransit Funding would be taken up front before CTA, Pace and Metra recieved there funds. The funding for Paratransit would of run out of funds for 2009 in Oct. if not for the RTA bailing out. The 2010 proposed fare increases for CTA and Metra are minor compared to Pace Paratransit of Suburbs of $3.50 per ride, and Chicago of $5.00 per ride, double the fixed route fare. Public transportatiom has been underfunded in Illinois since 1961, locally (taxes, etc) and with fares it must pay for 50% of public transit budget, many other states is at 30%. The reason that every year is a doomsday is that we truly are under funded. Please do not blame the Senior Free Ride Program, in all of the 6 counties that RTA oversees service the cost this year is 37 million, that is a very small percentage of Public Transit funding for Northeastern Illinois.


  21. - Angry Chicagoan - Saturday, Oct 31, 09 @ 12:58 am:

    $3 is a completely excessive fare for what the CTA offers — considerable more than New York’s MTA or even for the vast majority of DC Metrorail rides within the District or Arlington/Alexandria — or any off-peak DC Metro ride whatsoever. Compared to Washington DC and New York, we will be expected to pay more money for slower, less frequent, dirtier, less dependable service.

    It’s not acceptable.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Question of the day
* Rauner says he's for Medicaid work requirement, but won't make it a priority
* Kaegi touts liberal backing while Berrios points to Rauner-connected contributions
* Report: Rauner pushing to fire Steelers coach Tomlin
* Rauner declines invite to debate Ives in Springfield next month
* Rauner statement rated "Half True"
* The unintended consequences of Rauner's AV
* Ives takes heat for claiming solution to Chicago's gun crime is fathers in the home
* Illinois schools superintendent to recommend $7.2 billion state funding hike
* Rauner says solution to high black unemployment is getting rid of Madigan
* Kennedy blames U of I's African-American enrollment decline on predecessors
* Blagojevich roundup: Pritzker's response, Patti's response, US Attorney reveals new probe into leak
* Pritzker slammed for floating vehicle miles tax idea
* Rauner sticks tightly to talking points when asked about Trump and even David Duke
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* Rauner tours Lincoln prison, touts reforms help.....
* Report: Rauner pushing to fire Steelers coach T.....
* Rauner signs law creating IDOC women's division.....
* Lawmakers, don't punish these students - Chicag.....
* Batavia man named student laureate by Lincoln A.....
* LaRaviere launches campaign website, takes shot.....
* IL Rising: Burr Ridge Fights Back Against Jim D.....
* PolitiFact: Rauner Legionnaires' claim downplay.....


* Woman paralyzed by collapsed bus shelter settles for $115M
* Illinois delays sending voter data to multi-state program
* Greyhound driver in pursuit could face charges
* Attorneys want trial moved in missing Chinese scholar case
* Illinois man awarded Carnegie Medal for thwarting attack
* Ex-northwestern Indiana sheriff faces bribery sentencing
* Below-zero wind chills cancel school in parts of Illinois
* Observation deck in Indiana for Lake Michigan collapses
* Macon County deputies will soon be taking work vehicles home
* Illinois program helps rural students access AP classes

* Rauner tours Lincoln prison, touts reforms helping female inmates
* Fact check: Rauner Legionnaires' claim downplays facts
* PolitiFact: Rauner Legionnaires’ claim downplays facts
* Democrat Kennedy calls Republican Ives' gun crime solution ignorant and stupid
* Trump says his words on immigration were misrepresented by 'Senator Dicky Durbin'
* How Illinois governor candidates would address gun violence
* Kennedy targets gun violence in Illinois governor campaign
* State warns of potential measles exposure at O'Hare
* Gambling expansion in Illinois no sure bet
* Democrats try to stand out in attorney general primary

* Tax code change dings ADM
* GE chief renews pledge to study breakup after $6.2B stumble
* Goldman Sachs arm mulls sale of suburban snack company
* Monteverde nabs top Jean Banchet honor
* Five things to know about the Obama Presidential Center


* PBS to air five-part series ‘#MeToo, Now What?’ in February
* Man, 72, critically injured in Englewood house fire
* Five-year trade union contract teed up for final City Council vote
* Tomas Jurco, Erik Gustafsson return from Rockford with confidence, excitement
* Bears had some of worst free-agency signings in 2017 with Glennon, Wheaton
* Jonathan Toews launches agricultural program with Chicago Public Schools
* Dorothy Milne stepping down from Lifeline Theatre post
* Multiple businesses robbed at gunpoint in Wrightwood
* Nestle selling US candy business to Nutella maker
* McDonald’s sets recycling goals for 2025


* Sexual abuse victims testify against Larry Nassar at sentencing hearing: 'You are a repulsive liar'
* LINDA C. BLACK HOROSCOPES for 1/16/18
* Judge orders Illinois to expand medical marijuana qualifying conditions to include pain
* Early gains fade as US stocks veer lower in afternoon trade
* Wall Street exec succeeds Chris Christie as New Jersey's governor, targets Trump
* Slow-moving market leads to winters blahs for baseball fans
* House panel wants Steve Bannon to explain why Trump fired James Comey: AP source
* Will Paul Vallas challenge Rahm?
* Lawmakers, don't punish these students
* Moran: Lake County Twitter feed blows up with crashes from pesky Sunday-to-Tuesday snowfall


» A Poor Neighborhood In Chicago Looks To Cuba To Fight Infant Mortality
» Democratic Candidates In Lockstep At Justice Forum
» Dem Candidates In Lockstep At Justice Forum
» Chicago Sees Record Number Of Visitors In 2017
» Art Exhibit Delves Into Chicago Police Brutality
» Chicago Schools Chief Pledges Major Changes To Special Education
» Chicago’s Police Reform Is A ‘Long-Term Project’
» Chicago Needs ‘Substantive, Foundational Change’ To Police Department
» State Week: Quincy Vets' Home, Rauner Dives Into Dem Primary, AG Field Stays Crowded
» Young Activists Of Color Say Chicago Police Reform Efforts Fall Short


* Rauner tours Lincoln prison, touts reforms helping female inmates
* Fact check: Rauner Legionnaires' claim downplays facts
* PolitiFact: Rauner Legionnaires’ claim downplays facts
* Democrat Kennedy calls Republican Ives' gun crime solution ignorant and stupid
* Trump says his words on immigration were misrepresented by 'Senator Dicky Durbin'
* Our View: Aldermen should approve TIF request for Booth-Ferguson project
* Todd Maisch: Illinois Chamber of Commerce supports pragmatic change to environmental regulations
* George Will: In Oregon, progressivism spills over at the pump
* How Illinois governor candidates would address gun violence
* Kennedy targets gun violence in Illinois governor campaign


* Former KSDK reporter charged with drug possession
* Passengers down 7 percent for 2017 at Quad-City airport
* Rauner signs law creating IDOC women's division at Logan prison
* 68-year-old Anna man sentenced to four years in prison for sex abuse
* A milder, more active pattern ahead
* Women's March set for Saturday in downtown Carbondale
* Fire destroys Moline restaurant, River Drive closed
* See the Saint Louis Zoo's new baby black and white colobus monkey
* SIUC cheerleaders who knelt at football game receive NAACP awards
* Q-C Leadership Academy begins Feb. 9


* WHO: All of Sao Paulo state at risk for yellow fever
* Woman paralyzed by collapsed bus shelter settles for $115M
* Ex-doctor's victims recount sex abuse as young gymnasts
* Tax law brings big paper losses, long-term gains to US banks
* With a $6B charge comes new thoughts about GE's future

* This RSS feed URL is deprecated
* Our view: End patronage at Algonquin Towns...
* US places Pakistan on special watch list f...
* Algonquin Township fires Ryan Provenzano a...
* Hultgren behind effort to expand energy re...
* Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and...
* Tioga State Bank president and CEO address...
* Lawmakers back renaming Warrenville post o...
* Kane County assessor: No guarantee your ta...
* Teacher raised in Yorkville running agains...

* This RSS feed URL is deprecated...
* Here's exactly how Dick Durbin destroyed K......
* Did Dick Durbin 'Reveal Why He Lied' About......
* Durbin presses DHS chief on DACA, immigrat......
* Sen. Dick Durbin Grills DHS Sec. Neilsen O......

* This RSS feed URL is deprecated...
* Dems say they need 1 more Senate vote to o......

* Keeping retirement real. My grandmother Esther wasn’t from Norway. She was an “Emma.”
*
* Chicago City Council’s Progressive Caucus forces CPS to finally act on special needs positions.
* Sketchbook.
* SportsMondayTuesday: The Bulls Are For Real
* From the archive: When a Reader staffer dreamed of blue-faced superstardom
* The [Tuesday] Papers
* Hitting Left with the Klonsky Brothers episode #47. Delia Ramirez.
* Hearing aids print money and executives steal it.
* The Future of Chatham Avalon Park Community Council (CAPCC)


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* Korea’s first Apple Store set to open January 27
* OnePlus credit card payments halted for time being
* ZTE Axon M comes to China, set for Europe
* Breakdown between Huawei and AT&T result of U.S. lawmaker pressure
* Sony Xperia XZ Pro speculation calls for flagship launch at MWC 2018 with 4K OLED screen
* Best Battery Banks and Portable Chargers [2018]
* OnePlus disables credit card payments on their site after data leak allegations

* White Sox announce player development staff
* Hitters’ mini-camp underway in Glendale
* Kopech close to joining White Sox rotation
* Young White Sox hitters gather for mini-camp
* Birmingham Barons unveil special MLK uniform
* Service and the Sox
* Charting a course to a winning White Sox team


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller