Gay marriage law “work of the devil”
Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Springfield Bishop Thomas Paprocki was interviewed recently about his exorcism in response to the new gay marriage law…
Paprocki told LifeSiteNews that people in today’s permissive society seem to think that hate is associated with not letting people get “what they want.”
“Any good parent will tell you that sometimes you have to discipline your children. Sometimes you have to say ‘no’. Sometimes you even have to punish.”
“When a parent does those things, they’re not being hateful towards their children, they’re actually being very loving by correcting them and showing them the right way to do things,” he said. […]
“We just have to understand that we are going to be facing a lot of opposition and as I said, my whole point for doing the prayer service is realizing it’s the work of the devil that’s behind this.”
* Video…
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:45 pm:
Pope Francis MAY not “agree”…
- Amalia - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:47 pm:
guess he didn’t watch the Grammys…..
- OneMan - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:49 pm:
Looking forward to him also fighting people remarrying unless approved by clergy….
- a drop in - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:53 pm:
How come the ones without any parential experience seem to know exactly what “good parents” would do?
- PoolGuy - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:53 pm:
why don’t they take the same approach towards their child abuser priests. tell them “No” and “punish” them?
- Ahoy! - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:55 pm:
The parent analogy is just plain bad. If my child is gay and wants to marry someone, the government should not deny my child equal rights and protections under the law. I have the personal liberty to ignore irrational priest, but I need the governments help to protect equal rights under the law for my children.
- steve schnorf - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:56 pm:
and we, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters, are not children to be corrected or punished by Mr Paprocki
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 2:57 pm:
I don’t have a problem with people having differing views on the subject of gay marriage, though I think the Bishop’s views do border on the hate line. What the Bishop fails to realize, though, is that his beliefs aren’t germane to somebody else’s life. Not everybody shares his beliefs. I’m not sure why he thinks he has a right to impose his viewpoint on others. There is a reason that church and state are separated. This is one of those reasons.
- Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:01 pm:
If this guy would say that Father Daniel McCormack’s (or Father Norbert Maday’s, etc.) actions were the “work of the devil,” he would have a lot more credibility.
- Jorge - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:05 pm:
Parenting has nothing to do with gay marriage. What a terrible analogy and blatant ignorance on display here.
- Arthur Andersen - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:07 pm:
OTOH, Paprocki seemed to be just fine with moving the child molesting priests around the Archdiocese of Chicago back not too long. He was all over that disgusting mass paper drop last week.
If you’re wondering why Mass attendance keeps dropping and the plate is lighter, look in the mirror, Your Eminence.
- Tom - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:13 pm:
Once again the Church is behind the science, people are born gay. Would you punish your child for being left handed or color blind?
- mokenavince - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:14 pm:
A red herring to divert our minds off of pedophile
priest’s. As Pope Francis stated ,who am I to judge.
- LincolnLounger - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:16 pm:
Bishop Paprocki previously also blamed “the Devil” for the large monetary awards punishing the Church for their scandalous cover-ups for child abusing priests:
“In 2007, Paprocki told a group of judges and lawyers in Michigan that monetary awards to victims of sexual abuse by priests were excessive and that the legal system needed reform.”
‘Today in North America and elsewhere, the law is being used to undermine the charitable works and the religious freedom of the Church,’ Paprocki said four years ago. ‘This attack is particularly directed against bishops and priests, since the most effective way to scatter the flock is to attack the shepherd. We must also use our religious discernment to recognize that the principal force behind these attacks is none other than the devil.’”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/28/illinois-bishop-punish-lgbt-people-like-children-if-they-get-married/
- Aldyth - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:19 pm:
It hasn’t been 1950 in about 64 years.
- Conservative Republican - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:19 pm:
=== I’m not sure why he thinks he has a right to impose his viewpoint on others. ===
A. He’s not “imposing” his views on others.
B. as to why, see Matt.28:19- “Go forth and teach all nations”
- Conservative Republican - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:21 pm:
==Once again the Church is behind the science, people are born gay.===
What’s the “science”? Give citations please. You’ll have trouble doing so; I think you’re wrong.
- PoolGuy - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:23 pm:
well being left handed used to be considered evil or devilish. back in the dark ages.
- How Ironic - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:27 pm:
@Tom, many schools used to try to “teach” lefties to righties. And the Bishop is a dunce. So many critical issues to deal with, and he’s focused on trying to demonize two people that love each other. Whatever. Maybe he ought to watch the Popes most recent “who am I to judge” statement.
- SonofSuperAbe2014 - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:29 pm:
The Bishop will be the guest speaker at Rep. Ives next fundraiser.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:32 pm:
What Schnorf said.
I’m no kid, and the bishop is not my father.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:39 pm:
Tonight on a special episode of “Duck Dynasty” the cast travels to Springfield.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:40 pm:
So is it “the work of the Devil” or just misquided children behaving improperly? Can’t be both, can it?
Or how about a third option? Adults blessed with reason and free will governing themselves as they see fit in the interests of equality for all?
- Diogenes in DuPage - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:47 pm:
I think the good Bishop was in the same seminary class as the priest who told me that my wife and I had committed a mortal sin by having children via IVF. Count me a recovering Catholic.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 3:56 pm:
The Bishop has every right to state his beliefs. I do wonder, however, how the church attendance and collection$ have been since his arrival to this diocese. A bishop is promoted in a large part due to his ability to raise the coffers. I wonder if there has been a change, and if so, which way?
- walker - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 4:03 pm:
Humility at work.
- MrJM - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 4:04 pm:
Breaking: A local professional pre-Enlightenment reenactor assured the public that his Dark Ages magic spell was a just response to the secret actions of an invisible evil spirit.
– MrJM
- Cletus Purcel - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 4:08 pm:
He’s right.
- Wensicia - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 4:45 pm:
He his preaching against the values of his own Church and should be defrocked. Homosexuality is not the “work of the devil”.
- Upon Further Review - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 4:59 pm:
I am unaware of any major doctrinal changes within the Roman Catholic Church. Like it or not, Bishop Paprocki’s opinions square with Catholic orthodoxy, including the writings of the previous Pope (Benedict XVI). What exactly is Wensicia referring to?
- Sunshine - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:12 pm:
Wow…..just WOW!! So, God made gays and he’s out to set God straight?
If this fellow wants to exorcise anything, how about stopping over at the Capitol, then head to DC!
- steve schnorf - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:14 pm:
Review, another reason then, why Jesus wept
- D.P.Gumby - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:15 pm:
As I recall, the Bible says the Devil will come disguised as one we normally trust….hmmmm…
- Wensicia - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:30 pm:
I don’t believe the Church claims homosexuals are in line with Satan or states those supporting their recognition are doing the “work of the devil”. This Bishop claims are not in line with Church doctrine, which calls sex between the same sex individuals a sin, but does not say homosexuals, themselves, are evil.
- aunt_petunia - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:58 pm:
I fail to see the point of posting this video on Capitol Fax.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 6:25 pm:
Bishop Paprocki is fighting off the cultural pirates boarding his ship FRIGATE…..(.which is what millions have basically said on this issue.)
- persecuted - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 6:37 pm:
I’m not Catholic but I find it sad and wrong for the Catholic church to chastise the American nuns for being too liberal and this bishop is one of three bishops “investigating” the nuns and their good works.
- Robert Lincoln - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 8:30 pm:
He has the freedom to express his beliefs and attempt to lead his parishioners. If they disagree, they have the ability to work within the Catholic Church to promote change or to leave it and ignore him.
Ultimately, he should have no influence on any branch of government.
I’m really rooting for his parishioners to push for change and demote this man and his beliefs.
- hisgirlfriday - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 9:18 pm:
This guy’s boss is Pope Francis and not Fred Phelps?
- olddog - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 9:57 pm:
@ - aunt_petunia - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 5:58 pm: === I fail to see the point of posting this video on Capitol Fax. ===
Perhaps it’s because the good bishop’s little photo op was in response to legislation enacted by the General Assembly and timed to coincide with the ceremony when it was signed into law by the governor
- Michelle Flaherty - Tuesday, Jan 28, 14 @ 10:06 pm:
There’s a reason this guy’s career peaked in Springfield. Not exactly the major leagues of the church.
- A. Nonymous - Wednesday, Jan 29, 14 @ 5:31 am:
I’m American, not Catholic.
- Crispy Critter - Wednesday, Jan 29, 14 @ 5:56 am:
To all you people who say his example of parenting has nothing to do with gay marriage are so ignorant that you can’t even see the analogy of what he is referring to.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 29, 14 @ 6:15 am:
Crispy, you are ignorant as to the definition of the word “ignorant.”
The analogy is straight-forward. No specialized knowledge or high level of sophistication is required to understand it.
If you believe that you are an uneducated child so lacking in sophistication that you are unable to govern yourself, and that you need to be guided, disciplined or punished by the bishop as “father,” well, it’s a free country.
- Crispy Critter - Wednesday, Jan 29, 14 @ 5:36 pm:
To Wordslinger: Ignorant means a lack of knowledge (it does not mean stupid). Without the knowledge to know what he is referring to you would take this the wrong way. He made a very good statement with a lot of meaning yet so many fail to find the meaning in it so instead start slinging words. Maybe you should refer to the bible so you too could have a knowledge of what he is referring to?