Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Illinois lagging behind again
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Illinois lagging behind again

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014

* Pot is really going mainstream in Colorado

The Colorado Symphony is giving new meaning to hitting a high note, announcing on Tuesday a bring-your-own marijuana concert series, the first of which features its chamber ensemble and South-of-the-border food and booze.

The U.S. states of Colorado and Washington became the first to legalize the possession and use of recreational cannabis in 2012, and the first retail pot shops opened in Colorado in January.

The orchestra’s “Classically Cannabis: The High Note Series” seeks to tap the blossoming market in a series of summer fundraising concerts, at a time when more than half of Colorado voters believe legalizing recreational marijuana has been good for the state, a recent poll showed.

The Denver Post newspaper reported the events are aimed at boosting attendance, including drawing younger concert-goers, at a time when the Colorado Symphony has struggled financially.

* Illinois is nowhere near legalization as of yet, but some folks are hoping to at least get a study going

The group [of four Chicago-area Democrats] held a press conference Monday at the Cook County building, calling for the state to decriminalize marijuana possession and — eventually — legalize recreational use of the leafy plant.

“The main difference between the War on Drugs and Prohibition is that, after 40 years, this country still hasn’t acknowledged that the War on Drugs is a failure,” Cook County Commissioner John Fritchey said, drawing a parallel with the outlawing of booze in the early 20th Century. […]

The group has yet to drop a bill in Springfield to legalize the drug and, in reality, substantive change is likely a ways off, the group acknowledged. At this point they just want fellow Democrats in the General Assembly to green-light a task force to study the issue. The hope, they say, is that Illinois will eventually develop a more laissez-faire approach to pot, which for now is classified a “dangerous” Schedule I narcotic by the federal government.

* Two bills have been introduced to decriminalize weed, and another would lower penalties. A poll taken in late March found that 63 percent of Illinoisans support a $100 non-criminal fine for possessing an ounce or less.

* From an ACLU study

The national marijuana possession arrest rate in 2010 was 256 per 100,000 people. The jurisdictions with the highest overall marijuana possession arrest rates per 100,000 residents were:

    D.C. 846
    New York 535
    Nebraska 417
    Maryland 409
    Illinois 389

• Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 with over 33,000, or 91 per day. [Emphasis added.]

Sheesh.

But I’m not really a fan of decriminalization for two big reasons. First, criminals would still be controlling the cultivation and distribution of the drug. Second, decriminalization means no tax revenues. If it’s a step toward legalization, then fine. But only like civil unions were a step toward gay marriage. Decrim is not the final answer here.

Just legalize it already and let’s have a concert.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

34 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:04 am:

    •– Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 with over 33,000, or 91 per day. –

    Wow, that sure makes me feel safer out on the street!

    You laugh then you cry over the stupidity of it all.

    Imagine all the police hours on the street lost to processing marijuana arrests.


  2. - Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:05 am:

    Not just no, but hell no. I don’t care that 50% of the public in Colorado thinks its a good idea. I agree with the Colorado governor who said slow down to states rushing to legalize. Gov. Hickenlooper said this is having significant effects on the state and that others including Illinois should slow down and watch.

    They are selling THC-laden candy at conveniences stores, among other creative ways to get the whole state stoned. This is not a simple matter of our needing more tax revenue. I could not possibly disagree stronger with my many friends who want to legalize. Decriminalize? Sure. But slow the hell down on legalization.


  3. - Generation X - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:10 am:

    Utterly irresponsible and ridiculous to insist on tax increase after increase without looking at this job creating, revenue enhancing industry


  4. - PoolGuy - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:10 am:

    I support decriminalization if it keeps more people out of prisons for silly stuff like minor pot possession. but you make good points Rich. it’s heading in that direction, slooowwwly.


  5. - Nonplussed - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:11 am:

    There isn’t a whole lot of violence involved with pot. When you here about drug violence, how often does it involve pot vs heroin, meth or crack? To paraphrase Dr. House–”It’s never pot”.

    The administrative costs of marijuana possession arrests to a police force that is demonized for failing to tackle violent crime is completely irresponsible.


  6. - Bumused - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:13 am:

    Got me thinking of the movie What about Bob. Remember “Baby Steps”.


  7. - Skeptic - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:26 am:

    Maybe their concert series will include an orchestral version of “In A Gadda Da Vida”


  8. - PoolGuy - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:28 am:

    violence with pot is like one dude getting mad at another guy for eating all the cheetos. but there is violence at the dealer level over territory and control which decrim won’t affect.


  9. - Lefty Lefty - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:29 am:

    Is it 420 already? Where did the day go?


  10. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:30 am:

    “Just legalize it already and let’s have a concert.”

    Yes, Rich, yes.

    I tried to post a comment before on this thread, but it failed. I hope I don’t triple post, but if I do, I’m really sorry.

    We’ve had a long time to study the negative effects of keeping marijuana illegal.

    It’s also a rights issue, to me. Why should otherwise law-abiding adults be forced into the shadows of criminality for using weed?

    We are missing out on tons of revenue and economic gains, plus we are misusing our legal system when it could be better-used to pursue more serious crimes.


  11. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:41 am:

    == Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 ==

    It would be interesting to see the arrest numbers since Chicago decriminalized marijuana on June 27, 2012.


  12. - Belle - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:53 am:

    Legalize it and let the State reap the taxes. Who knows what will happen with gang finances but whatever it is, life will change dramatically for all of them.


  13. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:56 am:

    Must Il. Be last in everything. I’m tired of more studies and more talk: cannabis should be legal now. The Illinois legislature should quit stealing money from State retirees and draw in revenue from a marijuana tax on sales.


  14. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:59 am:

    …and one more thing: stop the sofmoric pot jokes. They are so passed and tired.


  15. - RonOglesby - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:00 am:

    91 a day… I would bet it is a charge used a ton on the south and west sides. Cops roust any group and its pretty common someone is holding.


  16. - Plutocrat03 - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:03 am:

    Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?

    I suspect a fine with or without some probation is the norm.

    All we need to do is to sit back and watch what happens in the recreationally legalized states. If nothing happens like the advocates claim, then craft some legislation and move forward. If there are problems, learn from them and go in the direction the solutions to those problems point.

    If decriminalization/legalization is in the future, allow for the ability to grow this weed for personal consumption, much like home brewing.


  17. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:24 am:

    being arrested is more harmful,than the use of the plant ,it is cruel and unusual punisment for a victimless nonviolent crime.


  18. - Hickory - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:02 pm:

    I suggest that we let the States of Washington and Colorado be the test pigs. The results will let me know how to vote.


  19. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:08 pm:

    ==It would be interesting to see the arrest numbers since Chicago decriminalized marijuana on June 27, 2012.==

    The ticketing was largely a bust, at least initially.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/23331575-418/one-year-after-decriminalization-pot-tickets-a-bust.html#.U2EtVvldWSo

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/11/01/mayoral-ally-thanks-police-for-ignoring-the-pot-decriminalization-law-he-sponsored


  20. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:13 pm:

    ==Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?==

    Yes.

    From the Chicago Reader

    Chicago police made tens of thousands of arrests in 2009 and 2010 for marijuana possession, including 47,400 in which that misdemeanor was the most serious charge. So how egregious are the racial discrepancies? […]

    In those years 4,255 people pleaded or were found guilty of low-level marijuana possession after being arrested in Chicago: 89 percent were black, 9 percent were Hispanic, and 2 percent were white.


  21. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:14 pm:

    ==Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?==

    Yes.

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-marijuana-arrest-statistics/Content?oid=4198958


  22. - Nonplussed - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:25 pm:

    georgeatt: ==…and one more thing: stop the sofmoric pot jokes. They are so passed and tired.==

    Can we agree to stop the passe and tired sophmoric jokes when you learn to spell?


  23. - strawman - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:57 pm:

    Nonplussed:

    It’s “sophomoric,” and “passed,” since you seem to care about proper spelling.


  24. - Ghost - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:06 pm:

    make it like the lottery. legailize it; make the State the oficial grower and seller; then auction off the rights to “manage” the growth and sales business to the highest bidder.

    use the money to cover the pension shortfall. pensions fixed with the taxes and marijuana; similar to our use of liquor and gameing taxes.


  25. - Wumpus - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:22 pm:

    Decriminalize it or make it punishable by fine if they are too scared to do that.


  26. - Jeff Trigg - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:22 pm:

    Not in Michael Madigan’s political lifetime. Probably not in Lisa’s either. Quinn or Rauner won’t do it. If you really want to see this change you have to stop supporting parties and politicians that still believe in prohibition.


  27. - Left Leaner - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:34 pm:

    So over this debate. Just legalize it already.

    Then take the tax revenue and use it to combat the abuse a prescription drugs, including prosecution of pharmacists and big pharma companies that knowingly contribute to the problem.


  28. - Anon - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 2:28 pm:

    Legalizing pot would be less harmful to society than putting video slot machines in every gas station, restaurant and flower shop in the state, and it would likely raise more tax revenue.


  29. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 2:45 pm:

    Precinct Captain - thanks for sharing those links. Very much appreciated.


  30. - A guy... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 3:35 pm:

    If we weren’t managing government from one crisis to the next, a rational, intellectual discussion could be had on this subject. We’re a ways off.


  31. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 4:53 pm:

    strawman : sorry…I should have known better than to use my tiny android phone. I don’t like the auto spell check either. Back on subject though: every bit of information points out that marijuana, is indeed, safer than alcohol and tobacco. That alone makes it a no-brainer to legalize for adult use. Marijuana prohibition is over, don’t let it die a slow death in Illinois.


  32. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 6:42 pm:

    ‘Yes.’

    Lots of stats about arrests, but no number regarding those sentenced to jail. Likely a small number. Prior history with the law likely a factor in jail time as well.


  33. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 7:55 pm:

    school funding gone background check no job ,hey but no jail time right


  34. - Pensioner - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 7:19 am:

    One of the few topics I agree (gasp) with libertarians. People have the right to take whatever substance they choose. None of any govts business. Monumental waste of time and money.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* Rauner vetoes DHFS managed care performance audit bill as part of another big Friday dump
* Rauner vetoes Geolocation Privacy Protection Act
* Rauner plans three bond sales
* Caption contest!
* *** UPDATED x1 *** SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - HB40 update
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - More candidate announcements
* Logrolling?
* Ricketts' Wrigleyville rooftops benefit from "mom and pop" tax break
* It would've been a very tough campaign for Lisa Madigan
* Question of the day
* Legislative move shines light on antiquated law
* Chicago FOP wants halt to new use of force policy
* GOP turkey shoot event image with Madigan's visage pulled down
* Drury could benefit from contribution cap loophole
* *** UPDATED x1 - ILGOP responds *** Report: Madigan pushing back against pop tax
* Poshard backs Pritzker
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* Madigan Could Undo Soda Tax if County Board Doe.....
* New Illinois law will let adults earn high scho.....
* Rauner enacts adult high school legislation - A.....
* New Law Removes High School Diploma Age Cap - M.....
* Madigan Could Undo Soda Tax if County Board Doe.....
* New law benefits trap/neuter/vaccinate/return p.....
* Illinois needs capital spending—but don't get y.....
* New forfeiture rules welcome - Champaign/Urbana.....
* Rauner Signs High School Diploma Update - WSIU..
* Pritchard bill supporting adult education signe.....


* East St. Louis regains control over housing authority
* Illinois governor vetoes data privacy measure
* Illinois woman creates exhibits honoring Vietnam veterans
* Illinois governor vetoes plan to require teaching cursive
* US alleges ex-Teamster official extorted Chicago film studio
* Can brain disease explain Aaron Hernandez's behavior?
* New Illinois law will let adults earn high school diplomas
* Officials: Illinois motorist intentionally hit road workers
* SIUE offering free tuition for info in racial slur case
* Field Museum scientists comment on your specimens on ID Day

* New Illinois law will let adults earn high school diplomas
* Raoul enters AG race, apologizes for 'Miss America' comment
* AG candidate Raoul apologizes for 'bad characterization' of opponent
* Report: Payments for treatment of addictions, mental illness often denied
* Republican McClure will run against McCann in 50th Senate district
* Republican McClure will run against McCann in the 50th Senate district
* Rep. Drury leaves governor's race to run for attorney general
* Rauner signs revamp of EDGE business tax-credit
* Rauner to lawmakers: Help me balance the budget
* Bernard Schoenburg: Running mates help balance governor tickets

* Illinois needs capital spending—but don't get your hopes up
* Chicago is more popular with tourists than ever
* McCain to oppose Obamacare repeal, possibly dooming GOP effort
* Jewel parent takes cue from Amazon with meal-kit delivery deal
* Allstate expects to lose nearly $600M from Hurricane Harvey


* With reinforcements, can Bears’ Mike Glennon stave off inevitability?
* MITCHELL: South Shore resident seething over Divvy bike thefts
* Lane closures planned for traffic signal improvement in north suburbs
* FOUNTAIN: A ‘square peg’ questions institutional religion
* Police: 2 armed robberies happened 20 minutes apart in Waukegan
* After Obama nixes agreement, groups say they want city ordinance
* Bulls coaching staff is once again coming under some scrutiny
* MORRISSEY: Unlike the Bears, the Steelers learned how to win years ago
* 3 weekends of I-55 lane closures start Saturday in Bolingbrook
* Big Ben’s advice to Bears QB Mitch Trubisky: Take control of career


* Kris Dunn's troubled childhood inspires donation of 400 security cameras to South Side families
* Failing dam prompts evacuation as scope of Puerto Rico's disaster becomes clear
* Disturbing Wheaton case latest example that schools must make stand on hazing
* Rauner vetoes geolocation privacy bill aimed at protecting smartphone users
* Deaths of woman, boy in Stone Park resulted from domestic violence, police chief says
* 2 dead, 8 wounded in city shootings
* Federal government notifies Illinois, 20 other states of election hacking
* John McCain says no to health care bill, dashing GOP's Obamacare repeal effort
* Man held on $3 million bond following stabbing, sexual assault in Zion apartment
* For devotees of Saint Padre Pio, a chance to connect as relics come to Chicago


» State Week: IL Attorney General Candidates, The Soda Tax, and Courting Amazon
» State Week: IL Attorney General Candidates, The Soda Tax and Courting Amazon
» Governor Running Out Of Time On Location Tracking Regulation
» In Cook County, 3 Prosecutors Are Handling Hundreds Of Wrongful Conviction Claims
» An Accounting For Meteorological Violence Among Insurers
» Illinois Supreme Court Upholds Murder Conviction Of Drew Peterson
» State Sen Raoul To Run For Illinois Attorney General In 2018
» Suit: Pregnant Illinois Officer Forced To Take Unpaid Leave
» Palestinian Activist To Be Deported To Jordan From Chicago
» Looking For Analog: Old Button-Mashing Arcades Come Back For A New Generation


* New Illinois law will let adults earn high school diplomas
* Thumbs Up: To improving the health of local residents
* Eugene Robinson: The devolution of repeal-and-replace
* Celebrating Constitution Day with Alexander Hamilton
* Our View: Diverse voices needed as Statehouse makeup poised to change
* Bernard Schoenburg: Democrats highlight Rauner's 'broken record'
* Kathleen Parker: The New Center seeks volunteers
* Raoul enters AG race, apologizes for 'Miss America' comment
* AG candidate Raoul apologizes for 'bad characterization' of opponent
* Report: Payments for treatment of addictions, mental illness often denied


* Live updates: Friday Night Tweets 2017
* Davenport man's family suffers in Puerto Rico hurricane
* HS Football: Tuscola vs Central A & M
* Haitian mission
* Late-season heat benefits delayed corn and soybeans
* Another 2018 big man gets Illini offer
* Rauner vetoes data privacy measure
* Governor vetoes cursive bill, citing ‘unfunded mandate’
* Student found dead on Washington University campus
* Murphysboro City Council looking at former police chief's proposal for part-time grant writing


* Lake Zurich District 95 wants community input on building improvements
* District 25 Greenbrier School addition cost: $6.4 million
* Saad: It feels like I never left
* Hanover Township offers help with heating financing
* Hot enough for you? It's breaking records

* Congressman Randy Hultgren Visits Raue Cen...
* Hultgren pushes for CHIP funding ahead of ...
* Indivisible billboard targets Hultgren, Ro...
* Good government - The Daily Progress
* Hultgren pleads for continued funding of f...
* Montgomery mayor hosts health care forum a...
* West Chicago Community High School student...
* Looking at Fintech through the Legislative...
* Rep. Randy Hultgren announces 2017 Congres...
* Hultgren Comments on CAT Closure, Hurrican...

* Illinois Receives $110M in Emergency Prepa......
* Illinois receives $110M in emergency prepa......

* Illinois Receives $110M in Emergency Prepa......
* Illinois receives $110M in emergency prepa......

* Free Walk-In Flu Shots Are Available Beginning Next Week To Chicago Residents
* “The Driver’s Side” – News From The Motorist’s Perspective
* Rhymefest Leads Obama Library CBA Effort
* The [Friday] Papers
* Susana Mendoza might have just won her next election
* Shen Wei Dance Arts makes an otherworldly Chicago debut
* Sean Spicer at the Emmy Awards.
* Free Markets, Not Government, Improve Race Relations
* Will taxpayers paying be enough for Illinois abortion advocates?
* Hitting Left with the Klonsky Brothers. Episode #33. Cook County Clerk David Orr and Chicago Votes’ Stevie Valles.


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* Essential Phone now in Best Buy stores, unlocked
* How to Prevent Apps From Showing Up in Search and Siri Suggestions in iOS 11
* Bose QC35 II Headphones Launch with Google Assistant
* iPhone 8 and 8 Plus cameras get top marks from testing outfit DxOMark
* How to Use Instant Notes on iPad in iOS 11
* How tbh hit #1 by turning anonymity positive
* How to Edit Live Photos in iOS 11

* Lopez seeks another win over KC in opener
* Expanded screens are (probably) coming, and they’re (definitely) fine
* Lopez seeks another win over KC in opener
* Sox cool off Astros, leave town with victory
* Lopez seeks another win over KC in opener
* Fulmer (blister) out, but Volstad, 'pen deliver
* White Sox 3, Astros 1: Bullpen holds up after Carson Fulmer’s early...


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller