* From the Quinn campaign…
Today is Women’s Equality Day. As part of Republican billionaire Bruce Rauner’s attempt to disguise himself as a moderate in Illinois, he repeatedly claims on the campaign trail that he “doesn’t have a social agenda.”
But his money sure does.
Both Bruce and his wife have donated nearly $1 million to right-wing conservative candidates and organizations that are anti-choice and embrace policies that are anti-women. Not to mention, as has been previously noted, Rauner has historically taken a “Mad Men” approach to doing business, as evidenced by the fact that Rauner lists only 6 women on his firm’s staff of 51.
And where does Mr. Rauner stand on major women’s issues of the day, like the recent Supreme Court decision on Hobby Lobby? He won’t tell us.
In the meantime, here’s an overview of the Rauners’ financial support to anti-choice, right-wing candidates and organizations:
Donated $700,000 to the Right-Wing, Conservative Organization Donors Trust. According to the State Journal Register, “There was a combined $700,000 in 2011 and 2012 to Donors Trust, an Alexandria, Virginia-based organization that, its website says, is ‘explicitly devoted to supporting organizations that promote liberty.’” [State Journal Register, 7/12/14]
Donors Trust Donated a Total of $745,000 to Judicial Education Project, which Wrote an Amicus Brief in Favor of Restricting Contraceptive Coverage in the Hobby Lobby Supreme Court Case. According to Source Watch, Donors Trust donated a total of $745,000 to Judicial Education Project. The Judicial Education Project filed an Amicus Brief in favor of the plaintiffs challenging the ACA’s contraceptive mandate. [Donors Trust Grant Recipients, Source Watch, accessed 8/19/14; Judicial Education Project, Amicus Brief, accessed 8/19/14]
Donated a Total of $12,500 to Tim Pawlenty. The National Review dubbed Pawlenty as the “Strongest Pro-Life Candidate in 2012.” The article cites several bills that Pawlenty signed into law as Governor of Minnesota, including the Woman’s Right to Know Act, giving women information about abortion risks and alternatives, and the Unborn Child Pain Prevention Act which gives women information about pain fetuses “feel” during an abortion. Pawlenty designated April as “Abortion Recovery Month” in Minnesota. This declaration urges agencies in the state to help women who are suffering problems following their abortions, “recognizing the massive national post-abortion movement, which features millions of women who regret their abortions…” [National Review, 3/29/11]
Donated a Total of $15,600 to Bobby Schilling in August 2013. Bobby Schilling is a Republican running for U.S. House in Illinois’ 17th Congressional District. He has been endorsed by Campaign for Working Families and received a 100% rating on the 2011-2012 National Right to Life Committee Position scorecard. According to his campaign website, “Bobby is pro-life, and he supports common sense, reasonable restrictions on abortion. The most basic rule of law tells us that it is wrong for one person to take the life of another person, no matter their stage in life. In 2011, Bobby voted for the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act. He also supports the Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, a bill that would limit abortions after 20 weeks.” [Project Vote Smart, Interest Group Ratings, accessed 8/11/14; Bobby Schilling for Congress, Issues, accessed 8/11/14]
Donated $12,500 to Jon Huntsman in July 2011. The Salt Lake Tribune reported in August 2011 that, “Already on record as an abortion foe, the former Utah governor favors amending the U.S. Constitution to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade and outlaw abortion. ‘Governor Huntsman supports a federal amendment that would ensure legal protections for the unborn,’ said Huntsman spokesman Tim Miller. ‘He’s proud of his record in Utah and will continue to advocate for life on a national level.’” [Salt Lake Tribune, 8/23/11]
Donated a Total of $20,600 to David McSweeney. According to McSweeney’s campaign website, he was endorsed by four pro-life organizations: the Illinois Federation for Right to Life, the Illinois Citizens for Life, the Lake County Life PAC, and the Pro-Life Victory PAC of Right to Life of McHenry County. In an interview, McSweeney claimed that he supported a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution and did not support a rape, incest, or health of the mother exception. [David McSweeney for State Representative, 1/18/12; David McSweeney Interview, accessed 8/12/14]
Donated a Total of $15,900 to John D. Anthony. John D. Anthony was a sponsor for HB 5463 Abortion Law-Informed Consent. This bill would require a 24-hour “informed consent” period where a woman who seeks an abortion has to have an ultrasound and heartbeat detected. The bill is designed to shame and coerce a woman to not have an abortion. [Illinois General Assembly, Bill Status HB 5463, accessed 8/13/14]
They didn’t mention several others, including state Sen. Darin LaHood, Rep. Dwight Kay, Chris Nybo, etc., etc., etc.
The Quinnsters are also pointing to a video of Rauner saying “Bill Brady lost last time and I can’t tell you how upset I was, I helped him raise millions of dollars. I was very upset.” Brady, of course, is pro-life.
*** UPDATE *** Rauner campaign…
“This is ridiculous coming from a governor who just rolled his female cancer-fighting transportation secretary for illegal patronage hiring his office directed.” - Rauner Spokesperson Lyndsey Walters
Ouch.
They also want you to see this Mark Kirk quote…
 
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- anon - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:46 am:
This needs to be commercial that plays on a loop in the Cook suburbs. Wake up people! Rauner is a wolf in sheep’s clothing!!
- CircularFiringSquad - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:48 am:
Thanks for update on (R-Rental) Caucus…..let’s go ask McSweeney, Kay et al about their pending tax hike votes too.
Is Mitt back from takin’LilMitt to skul yet?
Not gonna be a good week
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:50 am:
After painting him as a moderate during the primary? No dice.
There are too many media stories, ads and personal quotes from people describing him as a “moderate”. Some even attacked him for the woman he is married to and her role in various organizations as well as her donations to pro-choice groups.
Anything is always worth trying if you are behind in the polls, but this is a moot point.
- CircularFiringSquad - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:51 am:
BTW Mitt has tried to appear pro Marriage Equality (actually he wanted a referendum, but does not like referendums on victim rights, voter suppression, min.wage, etc) but his roll models Walker and the IN dwarf are in fed court trying to stop it.
Any thoughts Mitt?
- A guy... - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:51 am:
Responses like these might offer more assurance to the GOP base. Including Mrs. Rauner in the criticism is an odd tactic. Meanwhile the Governor has done little to assure anyone of who he is or even who he’s trying to disguise himself as. Even on this thread, nearly everyone who states they’re voting for him are saying they’re doing it reluctantly or plugging their nose.
Pat Quinn has worked against everything they hold dear. Yet, he’s their guy. Truth is stranger than fiction.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:54 am:
These right wing social views present Quinn a real opportunity.
Rauner’s contributions, his refusal to take a stand, and his choice of a right wing social extremist for Lt. Gov. are flashing lights warning anybody that Rauner may well hold, or at least govern by, extreme right wing social views.
- OurMagician - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:55 am:
“Today is Woman’s Equality Day. Pat Quinn had a female lt. governor, of all the qualified women in Illinois to replace her, he ignored them and selected a man from Connecticut to be his running mate in 2014.”
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 10:56 am:
=== Including Mrs. Rauner in the criticism is an odd tactic.===
Ads with Diana Rauner - 1
Ads with “Slip and Sue” - 0
Hmmm.
- A guy... - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:00 am:
Willie, if there’s any relevance to your comment, it’s lost on me. Mrs. Rauner is not known for her Pro life views. That makes the statement lack a profound amount of credibility by including her.
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:02 am:
This should work as well as efforts to portray Mark Kirk as a right-wing zealot.
Pat Quinn is supported (at least nominally) by several pro-life democrats. Is he secretly pro-life? These leaps of logic are tenuous at best and a hard sell with voters.
And as was pointed out earlier, a great deal of effort went into defining Rauner as a moderate in the primary. It’s going to be tough to change that perception with this weak “evidence.”
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:05 am:
Come on, Adam.
A few anti-abortion supporters, as opposed to writing checks to numerous anti-abortion candidates, refusing to take a stand on social issues,and choosing a right wing extremist as a running mate?
The evidence on Rauner is not “weak.” It is overwhelming. Rauner is another Brady.
Are you honestly trying to claim their is some equivalence between Quinn and Rauner?
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:05 am:
Here is where the cake Rauner is trying to bake might be burning on the bottom, while the top isn’t fully baked;
Does Rauner continue to deny conservative Republican credentials, while courting Dems and Indies with “no social agenda”, described by his wife Diana …and at the same time, the magically-gifted, conservative, “Slip and Sue” is trotted out, not speaking, but winking and nodding to conservatives that “Slip and Sue” is the conservative voice, that is a collective PR disaster in speaking and qualifications…
…see, which Rauner is which? Is Diana going to be next in line to run the 5th largest state in America, or “Slip and Sue”?
Will Rauner pivot off the “extreme” …”Slip and Sue”… with his Democrat-voting wife?
This is the fly in the cake batter.
The GOP Base; Rauner wants you to “Shut up” (ala - VanillaMan -) and get in line.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:08 am:
===Willie, if there’s any relevance to your comment, it’s lost on me. Mrs. Rauner is not known for her Pro life views. That makes the statement lack a profound amount of credibility by including her.===
“Slip and Sue” is Pro-Life, hidden, while Diana is trotted out as a prop, moderating both Bruce and “Slip and Sue”
I know, - A Guy… -, understanding what is going on has to be tough on you.
- a drop in - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:12 am:
And create an opposite commercial with his moderate views to circulate downstate. That’s what happens when you try to be on both sides of issues.
- Skeptic - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:12 am:
“they’re doing it reluctantly or plugging their nose.” How does that make Rauner look a better alternative? (Answer: It doesn’t. That’s why some of us are holding their noses.)
- Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:17 am:
PS., Rauner will be stumping later this week with Sen. McCarter, a staunch opponent of marriage equality. http://stclaircountyrepublicans.com/public_html/event-calendar/46-events/418-meet-gubernantorial-candidate-brue-rauner
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:18 am:
== Today is Women’s Equality Day. ==
And only one candidate has a female running mate. The other candidate chose a male to replace his female Lite Guv after she abandoned ship months ago.
As the downward spiral of this race continues. At least we haven’t seen anyone running around in a costume yet today.
- Wumpus - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:20 am:
Looks like Quinn has one thing on his mind. Who cares about education, domestic abuse or any other womens’ issue? All Quinn seems to care about is a woman’s hoo-ha! Quinn seems to be the one who sees women as sexual objects based on this attack. Rauner should have an add “Women, you are more than breeders”.
We’ve already seen Rauner’s firm hired women at a higher clip than the industry average. What has Quinn’s private industry company done to help women?
- Skeptic - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:21 am:
FKA: Maybe instead of Quinocchio, we could have Quinnderella? You know, when the clock strikes November 4th, his carriage disappears and he’s left wearing rags?
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:23 am:
===And only one candidate has a female running mate. The other candidate chose a male to replace his female Lite Guv after she abandoned ship months ago.===
Maybe “Ole Slip and Sue” can comment on this?
I am sure, magically, “Slip and Sue” will straighten this all out…
…as the Diana Rauner “no social agenda” Ad runs on a continuous loop…
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:25 am:
Good point, Wumpus,
And I hear Quinn also hates baseball and apple pie.
But seriously, Wump.
Gov. Quinn doesn’t care about education?
Were you giggling when you wrote that? Did you think anybody would take it seriously?
It is one thing to say that Quinn’s policies on education are ineffective.
But to claim he doesn’t care?
That’s a great comment for the Chicago Sun-Times comments section. We should be above that sort of thing here.
- 4 percent - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:26 am:
Hmmm… let’s look at Quinn’s top staff…
Chief of Staff - Male
General Counsel - Male
OMB - Male
Press Secy - Male
CIO- Male
Deputy COS - 5 male/3 female
10 males and 3 females…
- phocion - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:26 am:
“Rauner is another Brady.” In your dreams.
Women know that Rauner is pro-choice. Quinn’s attack is an attempt to hide that. Women figured out Brady in 2010. They know Rauner is with them in 2014. Quinn shouldn’t try to insult the intelligence of women voters in Illinois with this nonsense.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:27 am:
Pho,
What is the basis for your claim that Rauner is pro-choice? Where is the evidence?
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:30 am:
Skeptic: lol, that image will stick until at least 12:01 on the 4th.
Rauner will suddenly #poof# into Baron von Moneybags at the stroke of midnight as well. Monocle and all.
First round is on me that night compadre, no matter who wins.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:31 am:
===What is the basis for your claim that Rauner is pro-choice? Where is the evidence?===
Sen. Mark Kirk identified Rauner as Pro-Choice, in a video above that the Rauner Crew would like seen here.
What say you, “Slip and Sue”?
What say you, conservatives, pro-life base Republicans about Bruce?
What say you, conservative Dems and Indies about “Slip and Sue”?
Hmmm.
- OneMan - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:31 am:
Have to like the Rauner response….
The perception of corruption (accurate or not) is going to trump the social stuff…
- Toure's Latte - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:32 am:
Another breathtakingly long and boring presser I lost the will to read, just like everyone else.
Pat! Get your act together! You have fires to put out, flies to swat, attack lines to open, and you are bogged down getting hammered by the Illinois GOP? Are you freaking kidding me?
- phocion - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:34 am:
Gooner, try Google. It works.
Bruce Rauner in November, 2013:
“The reality is that the right for a woman to choose is a national law. That’s not going to change in Illinois. I think we can agree on some common sense ways for abortion to be more rare and safe. I support parental notification, I support late term restrictions. I strongly encourage adoption as a far better alternative to abortion. There are things we can agree on to try to get it done.
But I am one who believes — I just think it’s better that a woman, her physician, her family and her minister and priest make the decision better than the government. That’s my view. People can disagree with me, I respect that.”
- Skeptic - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:41 am:
FKA: I appreciate the offer, but I’ll have to take a raincheck. I’ll be election judging that day, so by 12:01am, I plan on being dead to the world.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:44 am:
Pho,
Read your own post.
He lists restrictions he favors, and then he walks away from the question.
By that standard, Slip and Sue would be pro-choice. “I favor these two restrictions and have nothing more to say.” By your standard, she must be a left winger.
No, that’s just not the case. He doesn’t get to list restrictions he likes and then give himself a label. That’s not how it works.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:50 am:
Gooner, give it up, man. Sheesh.
“I support a woman’s ability to choose… I support a woman’s ability to decide.”
17:19 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2oHN6pOWU
Simple Google search.
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:51 am:
Please, please, please keep trying to “prove” Rauner is pro-life. The claim is laughable and everyone in the media knows he’s pro-choice.
All the pathetic Dems can try to do is steer the discussion to side show issues. If only you can somehow make this about abortion or about the Cayman Islands or about anything on earth other than Quinn’s record of failure.
Keep it up. It is your only hope.
Quinn also has support from democrats who opposed marriage equality.
If Bruce Rauner is automatically ideologically identical to every other political figure he supports or supports him, then we can play the same intellectually spurious game with Quinn.
It’s just another distraction from a desperate campaign.
- phocion - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:51 am:
Gooner, you obviously don’t have the skill sets to read. Rauner gave one of the most intelligent, nuanced pro-choice positions I’ve seen. And he did so while running in a contested Republican primary.
I’m done with your silly Quinnbot rebuttals, Gooner. But please feel free to continue to post so you can make your position look even more pathetic and desperate. Good day.
- Arizona Bob - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:57 am:
Just curious. Does anybody know what percentage of women voters in Illinois have the unrestricted right to kill unborn children as their top issue for supporting a candidate?
IT would seem that support for things that better infomr those considering abortion, or dealing with regret afterwards, as did many of those to whom Rauner contributed, would be thngs that any decent human being, even those who support abortion as a matter of “convenience” rather than medical necessity, would support.
The “Women’s Right to Know Act” and “Unborn Child Pain Prevention Act” seem to provide necessary information to those with this unfortunate choice.
Doesn’t woman empowerment imply a moral obligation to be as well informed on a subject so that the decision is a well thought out rational one rather than a hormonally affected irrational act that could emotionally damage the woman for life once clarity returns?
What are the arguments for woman NOT knowing about what she’s inflicting on the unborn child and knowing the alternatives to abortion?
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 11:59 am:
Pho,
If you consider “I support these restrictions but will say no more” is “nuanced” then Brady’s plan to cut the budget was also “nuanced”
The rest of us would call it “vague” or “non-existent.”
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:01 pm:
Congrats to Adam Smith for being first to play the “distraction” game. It took longer than expected, but it was inevitable.
Any time Raunerheads realize an issue is damaging, they call it a “distraction.”
Just waiting for one of them to call things “desperate.”
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:05 pm:
I did call them desperate. They are.
Quinn and his sock puppets (like our friend “Gooner”) spend no time defending Quinn’s record of accomplishments or his bold plans to fix the state, or his record of turning the tide on corruption. Wonder why?
Keep it up.
- Archiesmom - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:13 pm:
I though get about trying to answer Arizona Bob’s questions, but I’d like to be able to continue to participate on this site.
- Archiesmom - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:14 pm:
* thought*
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:18 pm:
Adam.
Before calling somebody a “sock puppet” you may want to look up that term.
In addition, so far your contribution here on this thread has been to trot out lines used by the Rauner-heads every time Quinn lands one, and then to respond by calling me a name that really is not applicable.
That sounds desperate.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:24 pm:
Rich,
I understand that Rauner has said “I support a woman’s right to choose” but I find that more or a self-applied label than a statement of policy.
Based on that statement, he could still say “he supports a woman’s right to choose” as long as she undergoes a three cooling off period. Or “he supports a woman’s right to choose” as long as there is no evidence of a fetal heartbeat. Or “he supports a woman’s right to choose” as long as she first undergoes the type of testing that some on the far right want women to endure.
So no, I don’t think his label means much standing alone.
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:25 pm:
Gooner, the Rauner-heads are actually trying to talk about who is more capable of effectively governing this state, which, to many voters, is the crux of an election.
According to Wikipedia, a sock puppet is an “online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a person or organization.” I think that defines your work on behalf of the Quinn campaign.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:26 pm:
Personally, I think Rauner bragging about raising millions for a guy who advocates the mass execution of dogs is the most damaging.
But then, I am a dog so I might be biased.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:26 pm:
===actually trying to talk about who is more capable of effectively governing this state===
LOL
Links please?
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:28 pm:
Good point, Adam. I actually control all the anti-Rauner statements here.
I also control the weather.
That storm today? My work. Did you like it?
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:31 pm:
As a Pro-lifer who plans on voting for Quinn, this offends me.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:33 pm:
==I understand that Rauner has said “I support a woman’s right to choose” but I find that more or a self-applied label than a statement of policy.==
What? Did you fall down dizzy after that bit of spinning. Dude, stop already with the “I don’t know what Rauner is” nonsense. He’s said what he is. He’s pro-choice. Period. Enough nonsense.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:35 pm:
Demoralized,
Does Rauner believe that the right to choose should be exercised after detection of a fetal heartbeat?
As I noted, he calls himself “pro-choice” but unless he fleshes that out, it is meaningless.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:39 pm:
Gooner:
I’m getting a headache following you so I’ll just stop trying.
He is pro choice. He said it. End of story. Give. It. Up.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:40 pm:
Pro Life is not right wing
Then pro choice would be left wing
This temps me to stay home and if you anger me enough to vote for Rauner even thou he is bad
- Ain't misbehaving, much - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:43 pm:
The pro-life/pro-choice question is crucially important to many, but at this point is totally moot. The Dems have complete control now, and nothing major has changed. If Rauner wins, nothing will change along those lines either, why and how would it? He can’t be more pro-choice than Quinn (no change), and if he is a rabid pro-lifer the House/Senate Dems will stop anything he tries (again no change). We do know some things for certain, one is this, Illinois is on track to make Detroit look like child’s play. If Quinn & Co. stay at the helm Illinois has little chance of success.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:47 pm:
==Illinois is on track to make Detroit look like child’s play==
Great. Now we have to turn the sign on dopey Detroit references back to 0.
“O days without a reference to Illinois as Detroit”
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:50 pm:
===We do know some things for certain, one is this, Illinois is on track to make Detroit look like child’s play.===
You were doing so well until the Detroit Dopiness…
I’ll read your comment and ignore that, because such a rational comment shouldn’t be poisoned by Detroit silliness.
- Almost the Weekend - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:50 pm:
The lone takeaway I have from that video is Kirk will have a hard fight in 2016. Cue Joe Walsh, any Tea Party PAC playing the social moderate, pro-choice clip over and over again in downstate Illinois.
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:53 pm:
Gooner and the rest of the abortion crusaders see the world through a very narrow lens. I think it is safe to say that Rauner is not as pro-choice as Quinn is. Quinn follows every single position of NARAL and other abortion advocates. Rauner has said he supports parental notification for example. So, sure, Quinn is the much more complete and comprehensive supporter of abortion on demand, any time, any place.
But for those who are obsessed with the pro-abortion crusade, virtually no Republican can ever be acceptable. But those are not the voters Rauner is trying to win over.
What will make the difference for Rauner is that he is very much in sync with suburban independents and women who are generally pro-life but for whom it is not the only issue of concern. They will find him a very suitable alternative to Quinn.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:57 pm:
===What will make the difference for Rauner is that he is very much in sync with suburban independents and women who are generally pro-life but for whom it is not the only issue of concern.===
…unless Terry Cosgrove and Co. decide to “Hammer and Shake” ole Slip and Sue, and remind voters that Diana Rauner is not a heartbeat away from being governor, but Slip and Sue is…
That is the prism. That is the framing. That is why Diana Rauner is trying to inoculate Bruce and not Slip and Sue.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:05 pm:
Adam,
Does Rauner back any requirements for testing prior to an abortion?
Does he support any limitations as to the types of facilities were abortions can be performed?
Before you rush to your self-serving conclusion that Rauner’s views are consistent with suburbanites, you may want to figure out what Rauner’s views actually are.
Adam, when you post without knowing Rauner’s actual views, you sound like a desperate sock puppet.
- crazybleedingheart - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:05 pm:
“Both Bruce and his wife have donated nearly $1 million to right-wing conservative candidates and organizations that are anti-choice and embrace policies that are anti-women.”
Relevant and smart, I think, for those of us who choked on Lady Di shilling for the Baron in front of a “Democrats for Rauner” sign.
If it doesn’t walk like a duck anymore, maybe it’s time to find a word that matches the phenotype.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:16 pm:
I’ve had a lot to say on this and I need to get back to work. Two final thoughts:
1) Somewhere the Illinois Review staff is reading this and yelping “I TOLD YOU SO!” Nearly all the comments here on both sides seem to accept the premise that an any abortion extremist cannot be elected statewide.
That’s actually good news for the ILGOP. It shows they’ve finally figured out that that the far right cannot control the candidate and still expect to win. That bodes well for 2016 and down the line.
2) The doubts about Rauner’s views are consistent with much of what we know about Rauner. We know what he likes to call himself and what he likes to call Quinn. But other than on his tax plan, we still know very little about what he really believes in.
Quinn still has a ton of work left to define Rauner, and that’s going to be tough because he’s smart enough to avoid many of Brady’s mistakes. He’s not going to get tied down on specifics of abortion unless Quinn’s attacks start moving numbers. He’s going to stay vague.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:18 pm:
Rauner’s contributions are fair game. You give people a lot of money, it’s a fair assumption that you like their politics.
The thing is, Mr. Outsider has been buying up politicians of all stripes, for business and political reasons, for so long that you can use them to portray him as having contradictory or no principles.
He convinced Jack Roeser that he was pro-life, but would play it on the down low. Dillard and Brady questioned his pro-life credentials. So you can see the confusion.
The one thing for sure is that a gubernatorial candidate can’t cop out and just say it’s a national issue decided by Roe v Wade. Many states are running abortion providers out of business with regulations designed just for that purpose.
Maybe he’s anti-regulation in this case?
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:36 pm:
i have no social agenda(so you don`t care about the less fortunate)that`s class warfare
- too obvious - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:41 pm:
Huh? So Rauner is saying a state worker should never be fired for misconduct or nonperformance if she/he can point to a current or past illness? Makes no sense.
Also pretty shameless coming from Rauner, a guy who has never had a problem putting his own personal profits over the care and safety of the elderly and the developmentally disabled. Unbelievable.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 1:59 pm:
Is Rauner trying to say he wouldn’t fire a woman? What does that have to do with political contributions to right-wing politicians and groups?
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 2:08 pm:
- Fires DCFS director on his death bed. -
Whoever told you that is lying, he was absolutely not asked to resign.
- Adam Smith - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 2:15 pm:
Gooner, at least I’m honest enough to admit that I am promoting my candidate here and reinforcing their messages.
As to the ancillary regulations that you are so agitated about, they are the obsession of single-issue voters, not the independents Rauner is targeting. The NARAL crowd ain’t voting for Rauner. But suburban women who generally want abortion to be legal, but don’t mind regulating it, are going to find Rauner much more palatable than Bill Brady.
But by all means, keep right on shrieking about it.
And Willy, if Terry Cosgrove thinks he’s going to beat Rauner by attacking his Lt. Gov nominee, he is not the crafty political mind he thinks he is.
Again, folks, have at it!
- better days - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 2:16 pm:
yea and Quinn is a conservative
titles mean little ,when Illinois on brink of insolvency and Cook County and Chicago
Governor Rauner only one to save state
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 2:31 pm:
- Adam Smith -
https://capitolfax.com/2014/07/18/personal-pac-wants-more-answers/
From the link;
Personal PAC has sent each Democratic and Republican candidate for Governor and Lt. Governor the following four questions with a deadline of 5 p.m., Thursday, July 24th, 2014 for a response from each candidate. Cosgrove continued, “With upward of 96% of Illinois women using birth control at some point in their lives, 25% of whom for medical reasons such as controlling fibroid tumors, voters have a right to know who is standing with women in keeping their health care choices private and out of reach of their bosses.”
Hmm.
“…and Lt. Governor…”
The choice…choice…Bruce Rauner made with Slip and Sue is in the wheelhouse of Personal PAC.
===And Willy, if Terry Cosgrove thinks he’s going to beat Rauner by attacking his Lt. Gov nominee, he is not the crafty political mind he thinks he is.===
Slip and Sue isn’t a friend of the Personal PAC narrative. The fact she is female, just reinforces that Rauner isore about optics than policy.
- Gooner - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 2:37 pm:
Actually Adam, I’ve made it pretty clear that I’m supporting Quinn. If you think that I’ve hidden that view, well, then you just have not been reading.
Also, nice try labeling me a single issue voter. You people sure do like your labels, don’t you?
In reality Adam, I’ve posted numerous times that I became a Quinn supporter when I saw Rauner’s tax proposal. I think that keeping the income tax where it is and adding a burdensome sales tax is a great way to destroy our recovery.
But Adam, you are a guy who believes that any criticism of your hero is desperation, so I suspect you will write these comments off as just another desperate gasp by a Quinn sock puppet.
Have a good day, Adam. I look forward to your complaints about the tax burden next year.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 5:22 pm:
- Almost the Weekend - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 12:50 pm:
The lone takeaway I have from that video is Kirk will have a hard fight in 2016. Cue Joe Walsh, any Tea Party PAC playing the social moderate, pro-choice clip over and over again in downstate Illinois.
Being pro choice doesn’t make somebody a moderate any more then being Pro-life makes somebody a conservative.
I am Pro-life but liberal on other issues. Therefore, I am not a conservative.
- Wally - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 8:16 pm:
Gooner, Quinn is Catholic but supports abortion for any reason. What are your thoughts about that?
- VanillaMan - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 8:29 pm:
Pro-lifers aren’t going to vote for Pat Quinn.
Pro-abortion voters won’t be afraid of voting for Rauner.
Rauner doesn’t lose by not being pro-life when abortion isn’t a high priority for a majority of voters.
- Gooner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:34 am:
Wally, as an American who believes in the First Amendment, I couldn’t possibly care less what religion Gov. Quinn claims to practice.
It is really none of my business. Unless, of course, he would claim to be a Pastafarian, in which case I would be pleased that he was touched by the noodly appendage and would consider him a brother, but it still would not change my vote. I will be blunt. I have an actual sister, and if she ran, I would not vote for her. You need to be more than a sibling — figuratively or otherwise — to get my vote.
I care about his policies and not his choice of religion.
- Gooner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:35 am:
Vanilla Man,
2010 is knocking on your door to let you know you have not learned the lesson.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:38 am:
- VanillaMan - Tuesday, Aug 26, 14 @ 8:29 pm:
Pro-lifers aren’t going to vote for Pat Quinn.
Pro-abortion voters won’t be afraid of voting for Rauner.
Rauner doesn’t lose by not being pro-life when abortion isn’t a high priority for a majority of voters.
You are so wrong. I am pro life and I know many pro lifers voting for Quinn.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:41 am:
- Gooner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:35 am:
Vanilla Man,
2010 is knocking on your door to let you know you have not learned the lesson.
I and many other Pro lifers voted for Quinn in 2010. He did not win on the abortion issue.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 7:42 am:
There are many pro life State workers who voted for Quinn in 2010.