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Today’s illustrative tweet

Thursday, May 28, 2015

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- Posted by Rich Miller        

69 Comments
  1. - Linus - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:20 am:

    But ALEC is AOK for bill-drafting.


  2. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:21 am:

    I’d hope that Lance doesn’t have any approved GOP Lobbyist talking to the Administration…

    Why do I see “rock” and “glass house” in a future tweet?

    Just. Saying.


  3. - John A Logan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:24 am:

    Juvenile


  4. - Marty Funkhouser - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:26 am:

    Lance and the Rauner Republicans have brought their DC political experience to Springfield. While the process at the Capitol ain’t great and hasn’t been for a long time, at least budgets, such as they were, got produced on time and everything wasn’t subject to complete partisan gridlock. Guess that’s about to change.


  5. - Missy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:27 am:

    Bruce Rauner very upset that he doesn’t just get his way no matter how much he pays for it.


  6. - VanillaMan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:30 am:

    Yeah - that’s how to win friends and reach compromise!

    [Banned word]


  7. - MrJM - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:31 am:

    And that, my friends, is one of Rauner’s “superstars”…

    – MrJM


  8. - Century Club - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:34 am:

    He’s got a future in DC - where the most partisan tweet wins!


  9. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:37 am:

    “Don’t press ‘Send’…” - Coach Herm Edwards.


  10. - relocated - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:37 am:

    When are these immature amatures going to realize “”winning” twitter is losing governing?


  11. - Anon - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:42 am:

    Talk about spin.

    Goldberg was asked why certain people weren’t involved in discussions for reform. “You mean lobbyists?” he asked. There was a lot of back and forth for awhile, when Goldberg said, “We didn’t want lobbyists and special interests to write this legislation.”

    The Senator questioning him (I missed which on the audio feed) said they wouldn’t be writing the laws, rather contributing their concerns to the process and drafting of the bills.

    Seems like Trover missed that critical detail from the discussion. Or chose to drastically overlook it.


  12. - so... - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:42 am:

    ==When are these immature amatures going to realize “”winning” twitter is losing governing?
    ==

    Yes, they must preserve the good working relationship with GA Democrats who have proven oh-so-willing to compromise.


  13. - Deep Yogurt - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:45 am:

    so….

    My cursory understanding is 39-20 matters.

    But, hey, sick burn Trovs!


  14. - Precinct Captain - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:47 am:

    Americans for Prosperity also put that on Twitter re: Senator Silverstein.


  15. - plutocrat03 - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:48 am:

    “budgets, such as they were, got produced on time”

    Really? Are you sure that was not snark?

    They were false budgets which underestimated expenditures, overstated revenue, did not properly fun the pension system and were in violation of the State Constitution. Other than the system was great.


  16. - so... - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:49 am:

    ==so….

    My cursory understanding is 39-20 matters.

    But, hey, sick burn Trovs!==

    My cursory understanding is that the guy with the veto stamp matters too.

    But hey, I’m sure if felt good telling the Governor to stuff it on all his priorities.


  17. - Langhorne - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:52 am:

    Somehow, Browns zingers seem adult, and this seems juvenile.


  18. - Juvenal - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:52 am:

    Logan:

    I resemble that remark.

    OW:

    The pressure gets to some people at some point. He should heed Steve Brown’s advice.


  19. - Wordslinger - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:53 am:

    Geez, I wouldn’t want that guy’s job.

    Schrimpf should have the guts to do his own trash-talking.


  20. - Team Sleep - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:54 am:

    To me, this is a succinct hit/tweet. He kept out insider baseball stuff (like ALEC) and kept it simple. The word “lobbyist” can be toxic.


  21. - Just saying... - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:56 am:

    Seriously!!!!??? This is embarrassing grammar school stuff!!! It’s a shame that the “leadership” in the GOP GA lacks the spine or god forbid the fortitude to tell Rauner and his folks that they’re approach is a major reason for the current dysfunction. I guess all that taxpayers can look forward to at this point from the GOP and Rauner rookies will be millions and millions of dollars being spent on propaganda in hopes that somehow the 2016 elections will alter the power paradigm. Yeah that’s great leadership for ya - way to shake things up - UGH!


  22. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:57 am:

    - Team Sleep -,

    With respect,

    Why tweet this? What is the rationale? How does a tweet like this move anything forward?

    Again, with respect.


  23. - Deep Yogurt - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:57 am:

    so…

    I’m not a numbers guy but 3/5 something or other something, not sure will have to check


  24. - A guy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:59 am:

    Remind me how this is more or less impactful than;
    “we’re giving the Governor a chance to calm down”


  25. - Anonymiss - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:01 pm:

    >He’s got a future in DC - where the most partisan tweet wins!

    What’s past is prologue. He worked for Kirk before this.


  26. - haverford - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:02 pm:

    Or dear lord, son.


  27. - OneMan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:03 pm:

    Ask yourself why so many people sue in specific parts of Illinois?


  28. - Juvenal - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:06 pm:

    OW:

    With respect,

    I think it is time to accept that the governor’s goal is not to move things forward, at least not toward compromise.

    It’s a game of lifeboat, and the governor would like to throw some folks overboard.

    Only the ship is not sinking fast enough to get enough of the other passengers to go along with his plan to lighten the load, so he is drilling holes in the hull.

    “Burn the ships.”

    - Hernando Cortez


  29. - Dan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:08 pm:

    Lobbyists should make their request, then leave and go home.

    Legislators are to write ‘tort’ and make laws.

    If the legislators are doing this as needed, then why are they in office in the first place.

    Either do their jobs or resign.


  30. - Dan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:10 pm:

    Lobbyists should make their request, then leave and go home.

    Legislators are to write ‘tort’ and make laws.

    If the legislators aren’t doing this as needed, then why are they in office in the first place.

    Either do their jobs or resign.


  31. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:12 pm:

    - Juvenal -,

    Ok, while all that you say makes sense, the hand of politics is a game of addition, so why tweet something that continues to divide for no reason but to make the divide even clearer, and move the Lobster “group” in a position to be vilified because of your premise.

    If I decide to tweet something, or say something, I’m saying it for me. Trover is by proxy a good deal of the time speaking for the Governor. Confusing.

    With respect.


  32. - Unspun - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:14 pm:

    Radogno later said that lobbyists help write the bill.


  33. - illinifan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:22 pm:

    When a lobbyist writes a bill for something I agree with it is listening to the public and good policy…..when they write a bill I don’t agree with it is bad policy written by the devil incarnate. Trover’s tweet is the a shot at trying to win the media war and public perception.


  34. - Evelyn Macbeth - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:27 pm:

    Oswego Willy “I’d hope that Lance doesn’t have any approved GOP Lobbyist talking to the Administration…”

    I’d also be interested in knowing who Rauner and his staff are meeting with who SHOULD be registered as a lobbyist but have failed to do so in contravention of the law. I suspect there may be an investment banker, former campaign staffer, policy wonk, wannabe contractor or donor who fall into this category.


  35. - Pot calling kettle - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:31 pm:

    Over the years, I have learned a lot about how things are done in Springfield. I have also discussed our process with friends familiar with other state legislatures and DC. One thing has become very clear: the “agreed bill” process facilitated by lawmakers working with lobbyists and other stakeholders is unusual and serves our state very well.

    Do the “lobbyists” get to write some bills? Sort of, but 1) they know the subject and 2) there are folks from all sides (including the exec side) who need to agree on the language. The end result is that we get some informed compromises that work well and avoid conflict. It is also a tool used by legislators to push opposing sides to sit down and negotiate.


  36. - Pot calling kettle - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:31 pm:

    ==Legislators are to write ‘tort’ and make laws.==

    No, they don’t, they have staff write the laws OR they take legislation from interest groups who employ former staff to write them. Interest groups and staff then research the proposed laws and provide feedback on what the proposed language is likely to do.


  37. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:34 pm:

    - Evelyn Macbeth -,

    I’m just of the belief;

    Why point out another’s ills, if you may have the same ills.

    Collateral damage usually ensues.

    Why go down this road?

    Not all Lobsters are evil, heck, there are quite a few Lobsters, of both parties, advocating for people or organizations that need a voice when “decisions are made”.

    It’s a tweet, but a shot too. A shot at another “enemy” depending how you view the Rauner Administration(?)

    Disappointing.


  38. - Norseman - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:41 pm:

    === Lobbyist Registration Act. (25 ILCS 170/)
    Sec. 2. Definitions. …
    (e) “Lobby” and “lobbying” means any communication with an official of the executive or legislative branch of State government as defined in subsection (c) for the ultimate purpose of influencing any executive, legislative, or administrative action.
    Sec. 3. Persons required to register.
    (a) Except as provided in Section 9, any natural person who, for compensation or otherwise, undertakes to lobby, or any person or entity who employs or compensates another person for the purposes of lobbying, shall register with the Secretary of State as provided in this Act, unless that person or entity qualifies for one or more of the following exemptions.
    … ===

    Companies and associations routinely register key professional staff that have dealings with state government to ensure they don’t run afoul of the Lobbyist Registration Act. It is their expertise that is important in negotiating legislation that affects their organization. Even hired gun lobbyists depend on the expertise of these folks.

    So the Rauner policy will have the impact of cutting out the experts in discussing bills. That is an absurd action by our “transparency” governor. This guy wants to cut the legs off of anyone who doesn’t think like he does.

    Shame on Durkin and Radogno if they don’t call Rauner off this horrible policy.


  39. - Politix - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:48 pm:

    We deserve so much better than this.


  40. - VanillaMan - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:48 pm:

    Lobbyists ensure that the people potentially effected by legislation have an ability to be heard. Asking for their feedback and opinion is common sense.

    Legislation is a compromise between legislators representing their constituencies and citizens impacted by it.

    Naturally a governor who doesn’t believe in compromise is unable to govern, legislate or be effective. Naturally, a spokesperson for that governor would disrespect the legislating process.

    After this, Trover is going to need a lobbyist.


  41. - tominchicago - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:53 pm:

    If I remember correctly, Jim Edgar once observed that lobbyists are the most important part of any legislation.


  42. - Tommydanger - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 12:54 pm:

    Amateur hour.

    High schoolish.

    Counter productive.

    Violates the cardinal rule of deal making: Learn how to disagree without being disagreeable.


  43. - William - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:03 pm:

    I don’t see the issue. His tweet is like anything else posted here in the comments — a partisan’s opinion.


  44. - Anonin' - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:05 pm:

    Bet we Brownie to buy dinner for the first Capt Fax poster boy/gal who can locate Beth Purvis in CA! The race is on


  45. - The Colossus of Roads - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:07 pm:

    Linus hit the nail on the head. Groups they like have lobbyists. They better make sure they treat all lobbyists the same.


  46. - Anon - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:18 pm:

    Spot on: “When are these immature amatures going to realize “”winning” twitter is losing governing?”


  47. - Carhartt Representative - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:23 pm:

    Someone really needs to hold a press conference to counter with, “I know you are but what am I?”


  48. - Annon3 - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:25 pm:

    Pot nailed it. I remember when former Governor Blagojevich did pretty much the same thing shaking up the apple cart of Springfield lobsters. This too shall pass.


  49. - Demoralized - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:27 pm:

    ==His tweet is like anything else posted here in the comments — a partisan’s opinion.==

    It’s not like anything here. He speaks for the Governor. Sheesh.


  50. - chuddery - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:34 pm:

    ==It’s not like anything here. He speaks for the Governor. Sheesh.==

    Not to mention most of the people here are relatively anonymous.


  51. - Pot calling kettle - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:34 pm:

    ==His tweet is like anything else posted here in the comments — a partisan’s opinion.==

    On this blog, if you post an uninformed comment, you will be called out. The tweet in question appears to be uninformed…


  52. - Politix - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:37 pm:

    He speaks for the Governor and the Givernor works for the people. This is a disgrace.


  53. - Anonymous - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 1:47 pm:

    ==
    He speaks for the Governor and the Givernor works for the people. This is a disgrace.==

    No, what’s a disgrace is the way the “professionals” have run this State the last twenty plus years.


  54. - Arsenal - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 2:00 pm:

    ==But hey, I’m sure if felt good telling the Governor to stuff it on all his priorities.==

    I’m honestly not sure what you’re arguing. No Democrat in the GA got elected by promising to support Governor Rauner’s agenda. On balance, I bet most of them got elected pledging to oppose major parts of it (like RTWFL). So…should they have betrayed their beliefs and the constituents because Rauner won his race? That makes no sense.


  55. - zonz - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 2:32 pm:

    yikes, stuffing the Governor on his agenda wasn’t about “feeling” good
    Do you have a prom date yet?
    _________________
    - so… - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 11:49 am:

    ==so….

    My cursory understanding is 39-20 matters.

    But, hey, sick burn Trovs!==

    My cursory understanding is that the guy with the veto stamp matters too.

    But hey, I’m sure if felt good telling the Governor to stuff it on all his priorities


  56. - zonz - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 2:44 pm:

    Only a “not really bright” guy writes this sort of twitter profile - - with this beginning and this ending
    ____________________
    LTrover
    @LTrover
    Communications Director for Gov. Rauner. Love politics, Chicago, DC, and Cardinals baseball. Embrace the unexpected. Tweets/Re-Tweets are my own.


  57. - Tournaround Agenda - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 2:46 pm:

    Lance Trover is the state’s highest paid Mad Libs player.


  58. - zonz - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:02 pm:

    Actually, reading OW above and then reading the last several days worth of tweets* by @LTrover was very helpful; I hadn’t realized the depth of the unprofessionalism and childishness of the BRU-CREW

    *
    https://twitter.com/LTrover/with_replies


  59. - walker - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:03 pm:

    Trover’s been commenting lately like he knows he’ll be gone soon.


  60. - Demoralized - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:19 pm:

    Just say no to social media accounts.


  61. - Austin Blvd - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:34 pm:

    “He’s a good kid with a bright future.”


  62. - zonz - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:37 pm:

    haha
    ______________
    Zach Bernard @zachbernard29 · 4h 4 hours ago
    “Legislators controlled by Mike Madigan” would have you envision the Speaker as Riddler using his brainwashing device from Batman Forever
    LINK: https://twitter.com/zachbernard29/status/603966006244048896


  63. - Juvenal - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:39 pm:

    walker nailed it.

    Short-timer.


  64. - Norseman - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:41 pm:

    We shouldn’t pick on Lance. He’s just doing what he’s overpaid to do. Unlike Schrimpf, Lance is very cordial as he parrots the buzz words from the Rauner repertoire.


  65. - Buzzie - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 3:56 pm:

    Has anyone seen Rauner and Trover in the same room together? Is it possible they are the same person?


  66. - Lurk no more - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 5:19 pm:

    Let’s see, Rauner attacks Unions because their money corrupts the process. Next up, lobsters…maybe because they also can funnel significant $$$ to legislators. I see now….he wants his cash to be the only way to play!


  67. - LBJ - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 6:42 pm:

    Trover is a child… Seriously.


  68. - MAL - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 8:15 pm:

    …and for this WE pay a six-figure salary.


  69. - PoolGuy - Thursday, May 28, 15 @ 9:04 pm:

    hope that wasn’t posted during work hours on a state issued smartphone. they have to know that stuff can be FOIA’d. I’m sure he’s competent enough to realize that but never know. just looks bad.


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