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*** UPDATED x2 - Munger responds *** Lincolnshire passes “right to work” ordinance

Tuesday, Dec 15, 2015

* None of the proponents on the village board spoke in favor, yet they passed it anyway. Telling

Lincolnshire has become the first town in the Chicago area to establish itself as a right-to-work zone, a move critics have assailed as anti-union. […]

To create the zone, the village board approved an ordinance preventing local employers from requiring workers to pay union dues with payroll deductions. […]

Trustee Mara Grujanac cast the lone dissenting vote after saying the policy didn’t belong in Lincolnshire. None of the five trustees who voted for the plan commented. […]

“This isn’t about unions,” said [Ted Dabrowski, vice president and spokesman for the Illinois Policy Institute], whose group created a model ordinance Lincolnshire officials used to draft their own. “It’s about individual freedoms. It’s also about the right to not join a union.”

The ordinance applies only to private employers.

* More

Lincolnshire is not by any means a union town. With the exception of some of those working in the village’s corporate center and hotels, most of its 25,000 workers don’t belong to a union.

“It gives workers the choice to decide whether a union serves their interests. If it does they’re free to support it. But if it doesn’t they don’t have to have money coming out of their paycheck,” said Jacob Huebert, Illinois Policy Insitute.

The Illinois Policy Institute says these so-called right-to-work laws promote job growth. Their model is the one Lincolnshire used to draft their ordinance. Twenty five states including Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan already have right-to-work laws on their books. […]

(T)here is a question of legality surrounding and it will likely be challenged in federal court. Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan is among those who say that local municipalities are not able to legally approve right-to-work laws.

*** UPDATE *** From Oswego Willy in comments…

Of all the towns, cities, counties to pass this, also so cowardly with not a soul speaking for it…

… Susana Mendoza notes… Leslie Munger’s hometown passes RTW.

Gee, if I’m going to frame my opponent as a Bruce Rauner “Raunerite” and gin up Unions, including trade unions, wouldn’t a great way to do that is have your opponent’s hometown as the “test case” for RTW “zones”.

The next move by Mendoza?

That’s easy;

“Ask Lesile Munger about Right to Work passed in her hometown. Ask her if she approves?”

Geez Louise, the Labor Movement now has a question that has to be answered. Can’t skirt your hometown.

*** UPDATE 2 *** Munger campaign…

Comptroller Munger is focused on addressing the unprecedented challenges created by the ongoing budget impasse. She has not had the time to wade into Village Board matters in her hometown.

Still, it is fascinating that Clerk Mendoza would take up this argument. As a City of Chicago elected official, she might want to spend more time addressing the many challenges facing her hometown and constituents. To get the conversation started, we offer the questions below:

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza support Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s budget, which included more than $755 million in new fees and taxes on Chicago residents?

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza agree with the City Council and Mayor Emanuel passing the largest property tax increase in the city’s history?

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza side with the Chicago Teachers Union in its vote to strike?

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza support the Chicago Teachers Union in its effort to impose new taxes on banks and financial institutions to close a half-billion budget gap at Chicago Public Schools?

    Should Cook County Circuit Court Clerk Dorothy Brown step down given the ongoing FBI investigation into her dealings?

    As Chicago City Clerk, Susana Mendoza is responsible for keeping City Council minutes and ensuring that city government is transparent in its dealings. Why didn’t she tell the public after the Council voted on a $5 million settlement with Laquan McDonald’s family?

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza believe Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez should resign?

    Does Chicago City Clerk Mendoza support recently-introduced legislation that would allow Chicago to recall the Mayor?

- Posted by Rich Miller        

97 Comments
  1. - Honeybear - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:06 am:

    I hope the council remembers why they did it when they get the legal bill for all this. I don’t think voters will be to happy about it either. But whatever, wheat from the chaf.


  2. - Anonymiss - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:08 am:

    The IPI, man:

    “This isn’t about unions … It’s also about the right to not join a union.”


  3. - the Other Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:08 am:

    – “This isn’t about unions,” said [Ted Dabrowski, vice president and spokesman for the Illinois Policy Institute], whose group created a model ordinance Lincolnshire officials used to draft their own. “It’s about individual freedoms. It’s also about the right to not join a union.” –

    Shorter Dambrowski: it’s not about unions, but it’s about unions.


  4. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:11 am:

    Of all the towns, cities, counties to pass this, also so cowardly with not a soul speaking for it…

    … Susana Mendoza notes… Leslie Munger’s hometown passes RTW.

    Gee, if I’m going to frame my opponent as a Bruce Rauner “Raunerite” and gin up Unions, including trade unions, wouldn’t a great way to do that is have your opponent’s hometown as the “test case” for RTW “zones”.

    The next move by Mendoza?

    That’s easy;

    “Ask Lesile Munger about Right to Work passed in her hometown. Ask her if she approves?”

    Geez Louise, the Labor Movement now has a question that has to be answered. Can’t skirt your hometown.


  5. - slow down - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:11 am:

    So Lincolnshire is a place where there are few if any union workers yet they’re going to spend money litigating the issue? Nice job village board.


  6. - Bibe - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:15 am:

    I wonder if Illinois Policy Institute has agreed to pick up the legal tab. There must have been some discussions behind the scenes since there weren’t any on the record. Thanks goodness for FOIA.


  7. - Springfieldish - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:16 am:

    OW’s point is valid. The Rauner-IPI just tossed Leslie Munger under the bus. Apparently one of those OODA Loops is cutting off someone’s oxygen supply. Bad, stupid move by Rauner. One call could have stopped it. Now he’s forced to spend much, much more money on the Comptroller’s race than he intended and he’ll still lose that office.


  8. - Wensicia - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:19 am:

    Applies only to private employers? How many of these private employers use union workers?


  9. - SoIll - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:24 am:

    Sounds like a test case funded by Rauner. If he can get it working in just one muni in the state, he can prove it is/is not legal through the court system. If it is proven legal, many of the southern muni’s who cannot afford the legal bills, but support the ideas will follow.
    I pray this is shot down in the court system so the right to work zones idea can be disbanded.

    Rauner is doing damage.


  10. - RNUG - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:26 am:

    Interesting that the passed ordinance only applies to private sector employers but not the village or school district. Had to be one heck of a back room deal since there was so little public discussion. I have to wonder if prior discussion violated the Open Meetings act?


  11. - Blue canary - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:28 am:

    Time for all union workers to spend there money elsewhere. I believe this will be a lose lose decision in the end. Lost business and lost in court.


  12. - AlabamaShake - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:29 am:

    **… Susana Mendoza notes… Leslie Munger’s hometown passes RTW.**

    It isn’t JUST Munger’s hometown. The Mayor was Munger’s campaign chair!


  13. - Sam Weinberg - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:31 am:

    My understanding is that the Liberty Justice Center in Chicago is representing Lincolnshire on a pro bono basis.

    What I wouldn’t give to see that outfit’s Form 990 donor information.


  14. - ToughGuy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:35 am:

    Maybe the IPI will set up a fundraising page, similar to the one they tried for Christmas lights at the Capitol, for the the legal fees Lincolnshire is going to incur for the legal challenge.


  15. - Union Man - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:35 am:

    “It’s also about the right to not join a union” He said.
    Thanks, but I already had that right and I don’t need no small town politico thinking he’s just descended from the Jefferson Memorial to award me this freedom. Think there’s any money behind this decision?


  16. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:36 am:

    ===Interesting that the passed ordinance only applies to private sector employers but not the village or school district.===

    Attention trade unions;

    If you think its about only AFSCME, or going after specifically CTU, or targeting SEIU only… think again.

    It’s Labor, “collectively”, dividing and conquering.


  17. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:38 am:

    I’m waiting to see what if anything Rauner will say about this. Will he publicly claim a victory?

    This obviously will be taken up in court.

    The thing for unions is to spend less time agonizing and more time organizing. AFCSME and its allies just had very successful rallies. This is another opportunity for private sector and public sector unions to form alliances.

    Republican legislators with union sympathies and constituents, what will they do to get out from underneath Rauner? Would Rauner’s lower approval ratings embolden them?


  18. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:38 am:

    Sam- from a Google search:

    http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/454/454204425/454204425_201212_990.pdf

    http://www2.guidestar.org/ViewPdf.aspx?PdfSource=0&ein=45-4204425


  19. - Downstate - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:42 am:

    Just a reminder……Decision on public RTW (Frederichs vs. California) at the USSC is likely coming in June 2016.


  20. - chi - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:42 am:

    A town of rich people voting to cut the wages of the regular folks that come to work there every day.


  21. - Annonin' - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:42 am:

    Here is the list of top 10 biz there….any union shops? Guesin’ the high school gets to keep their unions
    1. Aon Hewitt 4,300 Global human resources; outsourcing and consulting
    2 Adlai E. Stevenson High School 1,084 Public education
    3 Walgreen’s Corporate 900 Pharmaceutical Products
    4 HydraForce 670 Hydraulic cartridge valves and electro-hydraulic control systems
    5 W.W. Grainger 507 Industrial supplies, equipment, tools and materials
    6 Quill 496 Office products and supplies
    7 Marriott’s Lincolnshire Resort 415 Hospitality and resort
    8 Sedgebrook 376 Senior living and care retirement community
    9 Sysmex 304 Manufactures diagnostic systems
    10 Zebra Technologies 300


  22. - Union Man - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:48 am:

    Liberty Justice Center, funded with $180k from the deceitfully fraudulent IPI. Is deceit fraudulent?


  23. - The Man on 6 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:50 am:

    ==None of the five trustees who voted for the plan commented==

    Surprise, surprise. More politicians gutting the rights of working Americans while trying to avoid responsibility before the voters. Hopefully enough people in Lincolnshire will remember this at the ballot the next time local elections come around.

    ==Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan is among those who say that local municipalities are not able to legally approve right-to-work laws.==

    I’m not sure if Illinois’ labor and employment laws are a restriction on home rule, but a very quick review of a few employment statutes leads me to believe they are not. Any legal challenge would likely have to be based on Federal law, and as far as I know, no Federal court challenge to right-to-work has ever successfully overturned the policy where implemented. Lisa will be facing a very uphill battle on that one, unfortunately.


  24. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:50 am:

    Rauner and the IPI hoping to win in a court of law what they can’t in the court of public opinion.

    Or the ballot box.

    Or the legislature.

    Just some litigious reactionaries hoping to draw an ideological activist judge….


  25. - Beaner - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:51 am:

    The Liberty Justice Center is funded by the Illinois Policy Institute according to page 27 of the 29 page Pdf. Thanks to Sam for the 990 link.


  26. - Dee Lay - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:53 am:

    So the Liberty Justice Center has two employees, John Tillman and Pat Hughes, and receives their complete budget from the IPI.

    So yeah…these aren’t the droids you are looking for….move along.


  27. - Joe M - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:53 am:

    From the 2010 Census, Lincolnshire: The median income for a household in the village was $134,259, and the median income for a family was $150,598

    I can see why those people who live there, don’t need unions.


  28. - Henry Francis - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:57 am:

    It is one thing to have newspapers cede their responsibilities to the IPI, now we have municipalities doing it? No one on the Board says anything about this new ordnance that THEY passed, instead directing questions to the man from IPI.

    The Munger angle is great.


  29. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:57 am:

    ==“This isn’t about unions,” said [Ted Dabrowski, vice president and spokesman for the Illinois Policy Institute]==

    Yes. RTW has absolutely nothing to do with unions. What a crock.


  30. - Downstate - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:59 am:

    I often hear the refrain…”Well, we just have to let the courts decide.”
    I’ve heard that countless times, particularly with regard to pension reform, ACA, and others.

    Seems like that is the appropriate response, here as well.


  31. - Sam Weinberg - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:00 am:

    Thanks Annon21. Sadly, info on individual donations is not public.

    Then again, we already know that pocket lint from somebody like Griffin or Uihlein is likely funding this litigation in perpetuity.


  32. - Jocko - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:01 am:

    Apparently $76,357 (Lincolnshire’s per capita) doesn’t go as far as it used to. Are they afraid their limo drivers are going to schedule a slowdown or sick-out?


  33. - Skeptic - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:03 am:

    “hoping to draw an ideological activist judge” Ironic isn’t it? The Right howled when “activist” judges ruled same-sex marriage legal.


  34. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:12 am:

    Sam- It would take some major work, but it could be done by cross-referencing 990s from other organizations:

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/938504/mega-donor-richard-uihlein-ramps-up-donations-to-conservative-causes


  35. - Carhartt Representative - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:15 am:

    If labor wants they could really put a hurt on that Marriott. I know certain unions will not hold conventions in right to work states, but you might also have individual members opting to spend their money elsewhere.


  36. - walker - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:16 am:

    What’s the payoff for local officials, to play their parts in this IPI produced drama?

    It doesn’t even theoretically impact their own budget.


  37. - cdog - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:16 am:

    Unions would never be, or never have been, necessary if workers were treated respectfully.

    “Illinois Policy Institute says these so-called right-to-work laws promote job growth.” I suspect that the kind of jobs that will be grown will benefit shareholders, public or private, more than the family men/women on the “shop floor” making the business profitable. Wages, medical, hours, human development, etc, should be expected from any upstanding employer, not back-room deals to allow employers to sidestep these things for profit.

    I find it ironic the the number one employer in Lincolnshire is “Aon Hewitt 4,300 Global human resources; outsourcing and consulting.” We all know what that sh** means. /ha


  38. - Muscular - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:20 am:

    Lisa Madigan has her opinion; Lincolnshire has its own. No appeals court in the United States has ruled on municipal right to work. The media treats Madigan as if her legal opinions are binding and settled law.


  39. - Anonymouth - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:20 am:

    Not to mention the fact that the UAW Region 4 office is located in Lincolnshire. Definitely a bold move.


  40. - Joe M - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:21 am:

    From a 2015 UIUC report, “The impact of local ‘right-to-work’zones: predicting outcomes for workers, the economy, and tax revenues in Illinois”:

    If half of the state’s counties (excluding Cook County) became right-to-work zones:
    - Total labor income would fall by $1.3 billion
    - The economy would shrink by $1.5 billion
    - State and local tax revenues would be reduced by $80 million

    http://illinoisepi.org/countrysidenonprofit/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/The-Impact-of-Local-Right-to-Work-Zones.pdf


  41. - Norseman - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:26 am:

    This is one of the best things that could happen for the public sector unions. Rauner has made this labor war and that is bringing all labor together.

    P.S. Great analysis by Willy as usual.


  42. - walker - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:28 am:

    ==Lisa Madigan has her opinion; Lincolnshire has its own.==

    LOL

    Lincolnshire themselves said they were deferring to IPI’s legal position.

    This is an IPI show, front to back. IPI just didn’t have legal standing and recruited a stand-in.


  43. - Mama - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:30 am:

    You can bet your sweet bippy Lincolnshire will be rewarded for passing RTW. I am very surprised the village staff and schools were excluded (for now) from RTW.


  44. - Sam Weinberg - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:31 am:

    Thanks for pushing me Anon221….

    Uilhein Family Foundation gave this outfit $300k in 2014 and I will look forward to see the amounts in 2015 (go to the last 2 pages):

    http://tinyurl.com/jhf78r8


  45. - Johnny Q. Suburban - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:31 am:

    “Now he’s forced to spend much, much more money on the Comptroller’s race than he intended and he’ll still lose that office.”

    Sure, dude. If it weren’t for the village of Lincolnshire passing a RTW ordinance this thing would have been in the bag.

    One thing I find incredibly fascinating is the number of people claiming that Rauner’s quixotic anti-union adventures are bad for the ILGOP. As if the ILGOP hasn’t just spend a decade in the wilderness. It’s almost like we’ve completely forgotten that in 2006 the unions had a chance to throw their weight behind a good Republican in JBT but chose to stay out of it.

    Serious question for anyone who thinks Rauner’s anti-union strategy is bad politics (not governing. Bad politics) If JBT couldn’t get IEA/AFSCME to back her against Blago, why should any Republican ever think they’d help?


  46. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:34 am:

    Thanks for the bump-up, Rich.


  47. - Annonin' - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:37 am:

    Wonder if the LincolnshireLoopers will now go door to door lookin’ for the 169 Syrians who have come to IL since 2010….seems like their next “logical” step.


  48. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:39 am:

    - Johnny Q. Suburban -

    Two out of five Union household voters, voted Rauner.

    You think the more anti-Union rhetoric is helping, let alone pushing the rhetoric in to policy, sustain a 40% union voter support for Raunerites?

    Add that… to a Presidential year and the political leanings and results in those years.

    It could hurt. It’s up to Labor to make it hurt.


  49. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:39 am:

    Thanks Sam. Looks like they were gearing up for this, hmmm.


  50. - Louis G Atsaves - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:45 am:

    Susana Mendoza actually said what Willy claims she said? I’ve been looking all over and can’t find a citation or news source.

    Fair is fair then. Is Susana Mendoza clamoring for the resignation of Emmanuel for his coverups? For closing 50 schools? For ignoring neighborhoods at the expense of downtown? For his whopping tax increases? For his red light cameras that only blink yellow? For his speed cameras? Will Mendoza, the City Clerk to Emmanuel, own up to everything that Chicago does?

    On the other hand . . . let me rethink my position here!


  51. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:53 am:

    Oh - Louis G Atsaves -

    You think the Munger Crew is pleased with this, Lincolnshire being the test case for RTW?

    Here’s the framing to Labor.

    From Politico;

    ===Illinois Comptroller candidate Susana Mendoza clearly viewed the development as an opportunity to pounce on incumbent Leslie Munger, who is from Lincolnshire. “I am also disappointed that my opponent, sitting Comptroller Leslie Munger, has not come out against this awful legislation … this illegal attack on working families was passed in her hometown.”

    – Last year, Gov. Bruce Rauner pushed for right to work in Illinois but pulled back after even members of his own party couldn’t get on board.===

    This won’t be a way for Comptroller Munger to keep 40% of Rauner’s Labor household voters in Munger’s Camp, given her own hometown is the test case.

    As for Rahm, I’m sure the Munger Crew will tie the City Clerk to the Mayor, I’m guessing like a “Wingman”…


  52. - Norseman - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:07 am:

    Louis, Rauner’s OODA’s will do exactly as you suggested. They’ll try to use the downstate haters brush to paint Mendoza with all the ills of Chicago. On the balance scale of politics regarding the two issues, it will favor Mendoza because it motivates a lot more money (not that Rauner money will be in short supply for Munger) and volunteers than the anti-Chicago spiel.


  53. - Jack Stephens - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:12 am:

    Congratulations Lincolnshire! You FINALLY have the Right to Work. You should be proud of yourselves. Its been illegal to work in Lincolnshire for all of these years. Not now. Good work!


  54. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:20 am:

    Solid pushback by Team Munger. Mendoza is going to duck every one of those questions.


  55. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:20 am:

    –Munger responds…–

    Woof, that was quick. Who on the Comptroller’s payroll has the Willie Rapid Response account?


  56. - How Ironic - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:42 am:

    Did Munger just do a mic drop?


  57. - ILPundit - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:54 am:

    I think Munger’s response left a mark. Remember, you should never lead with your chin like that.


  58. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:15 pm:

    Clever,but where does she stand on unions? Goldberg is quick


  59. - cailleach - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:19 pm:

    The unions need to work together and come up with a joint campaign that reminds people just what life was like for workers before unions. Maybe use Tennessee Ernie Ford’s “Sixteen Tons” in the background of the ads.


  60. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:21 pm:

    What a loopy response


  61. - Jimmy Baseball - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:43 pm:

    To the updates:

    Let’s not forget Congressman Rodney Davis’s hometown passed Rauner’s right-to-work resolution in the Spring (https://capitolfax.com/2015/05/21/your-daily-right-to-work-roundup-16/), and many of the unions still favor him despite him never really weighing in on it.


  62. - Ghost - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:47 pm:

    is this ordinance complete?

    right to work laws get rid of at-will employment, hence the phrase right to work. that means employees may only be let go for cause (or rif/layoff).

    if this provision is there, do the emoyer know they have just abolished at will employment? if these providions are not in the ordinance, the. it is not right to work.

    simply put, right to work gets rid of unions because the law protects workers jobs, so they dont need a union to protect them. right to work is not about union dues but about protecting a workers right to their job. Thus, right to work states do not have at will employment.


  63. - Ghost - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:48 pm:

    i forgot, if Illinois had been right to work, Rauner could not have let go all the exempt employees, the “at will” ones. Right to work laws would have prohibited it.


  64. - Georg Sande - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:49 pm:

    Mendoza won’t respond because it’s a political mine field way beyond her. Well played by Munger.


  65. - hot chocolate - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 12:50 pm:

    Along with those questions, maybe the Munger folks can dig just a bit deeper to find Suzie voting yes on 7 budgets out of balance by a billion dollars each, leading us to the edge of the canyon. How is it that she’ll be a good manager of that bill backlog when her fingerprints are all over helping create it?


  66. - Beaner - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 1:17 pm:

    In case someone missed it in Comptroller Munger’s response, she is 100% on board with RTW. She just did not say it and spent the response attacking her opponent to change the topic, rather than admit she has no use for Unions.


  67. - Blago's Luxurious Grey Mane - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 1:34 pm:

    Did the Mendoza crew not think that would come back to bite them given the mess in Chicago right now?

    Amateur hour.


  68. - DuPage - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 1:36 pm:

    @Ghost 12:48 =Right to work laws get rid of at will employment, hence the phrase right to work.=

    No, a right to work law only prevents an employee from being terminated for refusing to join or pay fair share in a union shop. The employer can still fire you for any reason as long as it is not a “prohibited reason”. Prohibited reasons are things like race, religion, age, things like that. Lawyers have written books for employers on how to make up reasons to fire people without any problems for the employer. The techniques work especially well against non-union employees in the private sector.


  69. - Honeybear - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 1:40 pm:

    I hate to say it Leslie but your defeat was a topic of discussion at the AFSCME convention. We were going to throw everything at you even before this. Your hometown just handed us all we need. THANKS!


  70. - Shytown - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:06 pm:

    Sounds like the Governor’s office went into hyperdrive to craft this retort. Munger doesn’t have it in her, which again demonstrates that she’ll be relying heavily on the Guv to drive her campaign. Give Mendoza credit for taking the first swing.


  71. - Responsa - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:22 pm:

    When did it become de rigueur for outsiders to try to impose their will on the operation of a city government of a tiny village where they neither live or pay taxes? If the residents and tax payers and employees and business owners of Lincolnshire are appalled at this vote it will get revisited and fixed post-haste with the trustees punished at the polls. If, on the other hand the majority of villagers support and are on board with the decision and believe it’s in their town’s long term best interest RTW will move forward. Representative government actually exists and is alive and well in most tiny towns. People who live in big cities, (and feel helpless to influence and effect change in them) often overlook this basic fact I think.


  72. - Dupage Bard - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:24 pm:

    Good counter by Munger. Too bad she didn’t have Goldberg and the crew wrting for her against Sente, like she does now, maybe she’d be seeking reelection for State Rep this time around?


  73. - downstater - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:28 pm:

    Mendoza just got owned by the Munger campaign. Mendoza tried fighting with a dull butter knife, and Munger responded with a rocket launcher.


  74. - Union Man - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:29 pm:

    The melanoma now has a spot in the north, Lake County.


  75. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:42 pm:

    To UpdateX2

    All these “Way to Go!” comments…

    You do realize, the hardening of the Union position and the question I had…

    ===”Ask Lesile Munger about Right to Work passed in her hometown. Ask her if she approves?”

    Geez Louise, the Labor Movement now has a question that has to be answered. Can’t skirt your hometown.===

    … is at play.

    Again;

    ===…if I’m going to frame my opponent as a Bruce Rauner “Raunerite” and gin up Unions, including trade unions, wouldn’t a great way to do that is have your opponent’s hometown as the “test case” for RTW “zones”.===

    That was not addressed. The unions, not Mendoza, have the question for their members, for Munger to answer.

    It’s about dulling the hardening Union support. Ugh.

    “Example?”

    https://capitolfax.com/2014/01/16/this-just-in-topinka-quinn-endorsed-by-afl-cio/

    ===I think this is the first time that the AFL-CIO has endorsed a statewide Republican since 1986, when Jim Thompson and Jim Edgar were given the nod, so it’s a very big deal for JBT… ===

    Let’s be very clear why I commented as I did.

    If Presidential years bring out more Democrats, and Unions are motivated to send Rauner a message thru Munger, having Munger’s hometown being the test case for RTW is horrible to keeping 2 of 5 Union voting households in a Munger column.

    The response didn’t respond to the optics, or made Unions feel at ease that although Munger’s hometown wants RTW, Munger is open, and not locked in against us (Unions) like Rauner.

    Also,

    It wasn’t by accident I didn’t respond… nor was it an accident now that I am.

    “You’re not helping”


  76. - Jibba - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:53 pm:

    I quit reading Munger’s response immediately after I realized there would be no answer to Mendoza’s question. A bunch of “Oh, yeah?”s in response to a simple question turns off everyone but your own supporters. Applies to either party.


  77. - sangamo better blues - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 2:55 pm:

    Munger’s folks can pat themselves on the back for the witty comeback, but her sidestepping of the question will be used to great effect when big labor communicates to its members about the differences between the Comptroller candidates.


  78. - chi - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 3:06 pm:

    What Sangamo better blues said.

    Hi-fives all around the Munger campaign offices while all across the state union people can no longer reasonably convince themselves Munger might be a friend. And Mendoza, with her statement, shows she is a friend to labor. Munger loses.


  79. - Ducky LaMoore - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 4:14 pm:

    The Mendoza presser should read as follows:

    No. No. Yes. No. No. See meeting minutes. Yes. Yes. Now Comptroller Munger, how do you feel about your hometown passing “right to work”?


  80. - walker - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 4:33 pm:

    Mendoza jabbed. Munger responded with the full eight round magazine. Slow news day interrupted by OW.


  81. - Johnny Q. Suburban - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 4:34 pm:

    OW -

    With respect, JBT with the first AFL-CIO endorsement of a statewide GOP candidate in a generation, ran behind Rauner. That was my point earlier, where’s the benefit for a GOP candidate if JBT can’t see a bump?


  82. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 4:45 pm:

    - Johnny Q. Suburban -

    If there’s no benefit, why didn’t Munger say as such an just now say she was for RTW?

    Think on that.

    - walker -,

    Looks like I walked in between the trenches…

    I think the response to Mendoza missed the message sent by Mendoza to Labor.

    The response puts into play, again, the RTW-Rauner connection. We’ll all see how Labor feels on it, on their issue, RTW.


  83. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 5:11 pm:

    “If there’s no benefit, why didn’t Munger say as such an just now say she wasn’t for RTW?”

    Apologies


  84. - walker - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 5:21 pm:

    Note to commenters here who got it right: just reported that a review of public discussions and emails reveals that the village board never reviewed legality of this issue with the village attorney, but just followed what IPI said.


  85. - anon - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 7:15 pm:

    Great come back by Munger. Mendoza looks silly. Truly amateur hour.


  86. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 7:22 pm:

    ***==“This isn’t about unions,” said [Ted Dabrowski, vice president and spokesman for the Illinois Policy Institute]==

    Yes. RTW has absolutely nothing to do with unions. What a crock.***

    Exactly. Of course billionaires don’t want to attack unions but are concerned with working stiffs’ freedom. Yeah, right.


  87. - Anon - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 8:26 pm:

    Mendoza tags Munger as a Rauner puppet. that’s all she will need in a presidential election. Chicagos problems are not Mendozas but Rauners problems are Munger’s.


  88. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 8:46 pm:

    There is going to be consequences in being Rauner’s lapdog


  89. - anon - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 8:54 pm:

    Mendoza will do really well next November when she touts that she was Rahm Emanuel’s Re-Election Co-Chair in the April 7, 2015 Chicago Mayoral Runoff Election.


  90. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:06 pm:

    Again, y’all…

    Mendoza was pointing out that Munger’s hometown is now the case study of RTW.

    Munger, Rauner’s appointed Comptroller is trying to run a campaign where it’s not a Labor referendum of Rauner and his hatred for Unions.

    Munger, for months now, will have her hometown as the trial case for RTW zones.

    Munger, instead of answering the irony of what Labor will ask, or even the Munger Campaign answering the stance on RTW decided to pivot on Chicago and Mendoza.

    Mendoza will face millions and millions being painted as a Rahm and Chicago apologist.

    The people that despise Chicago ate already in Munger’s Camp.

    Two in Five Union houdehold voters voted for Rauner. The RTW test case is an assault on Labor and it’s in Munger’s backyard. Labor would be wise to make that irony a point.

    The rest here, is a bunch of partisan commenters talking past what happened, and ignoring what faces both candidates.

    The Munger response is weak in answering the Labor bell. Its up to Labor to pounce.

    The Munger response is what will be pounded and pounded with “Chicago bad, Mendoza bad - Rahm bad, Mendoza bad”… in a higher Democratic turnout election, a presidential election, and this RTW irony will fuel Labor, cutting into that 2 in 5 Union voters that went Rauner.

    Blind partisan stances ingmote the obvious.


  91. - Property of IDOC - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 9:58 pm:

    RNUG. 9:26am
    Not only is there a possible open meetings act violation (what? They all just miraculously happened to vote it’s passage without any discussion?), they were probably paid off in stacks of $30.00 gift cards!!


  92. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:25 pm:

    More background:

    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20151215/business/151219285/


  93. - Blue dog dem - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 10:50 pm:

    Isn’t Lincolnshire in Lincoln County?


  94. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Dec 15, 15 @ 11:29 pm:

    Just a couple hometown girls with hometown pride


  95. - A. Nonymous - Wednesday, Dec 16, 15 @ 6:36 am:

    “Mendoza notes…”

    “Munger asks…”

    Most people I know of are sick of newspaper comment sections (present comment section being a rare exception).

    Very sad to see the continued devolution of campaigns into mere comment sections by other means.


  96. - low level - Wednesday, Dec 16, 15 @ 7:34 am:

    ^^ Its been going on since the ink became dry on the Constitution & canpaigns began of Federalists vs. non federalists (democratic-republicans as they came to be known)


  97. - low level - Wednesday, Dec 16, 15 @ 7:38 am:

    Oh, and SM is the Clerk of the city of Chicago?? Gee, who knew?
    If i didnt know that before, i guess Munger will keep reminding us - although she wont answer anything about what spending cuts she’d support in a Republican budget absent any revenue


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