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Thursday, Jun 30, 2016

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- Posted by Rich Miller        

77 Comments
  1. - Rod - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 9:07 am:

    The property tax bill related to CPS discussed by Rich is SB 318 house amendment 3.


  2. - Rod - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 9:18 am:

    The important part of SB 318 reads:

    “Beginning on the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 99th General Assembly, for the purpose of making an employer contribution to the Public School Teachers’ Pension and Retirement Fund of Chicago, the board may levy annually, upon all taxable property located within the district, a tax at a rate not to exceed 0.383%. The proceeds from this additional tax shall be paid, as soon as possible after collection directly to Public School Teachers’ Pension and Retirement Fund of Chicago and not to the Board of Education. The rate under this paragraph is not a new rate for the purposes of the Property Tax Extension Limitation Law. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, for the 2016 tax year only, the board shall certify the rate to the county clerk on the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 99th General Assembly, and the county clerk shall extend that rate against all taxable property located within the district as soon after receiving the certification as possible.”


  3. - Nick Name - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 9:56 am:

    Thanks, Rod. Anyone know the bill number(s) for the rest of the stopgap budget?


  4. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 9:57 am:

    Nick, look at the feed above. They’re in there.


  5. - Nick Name - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 10:16 am:

    Found ‘em, Rich. Thanks.


  6. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 10:20 am:

    Lots of spending, but where is the revenue?


  7. - Joe Bidenopolous - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 11:25 am:

    Is there an alternative feed at all? My ILGA connection keeps dropping…


  8. - here we go - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:03 pm:

    Why are some of the Republicans voting No? Wasn’t this the grand compromise between Dems and Republicans.


  9. - staffer - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:11 pm:

    ===UPDATE: SB2047 will include almost $1 billion for higher education including a semester’s worth of #MAPGrants . #twill #ILBudget====

    Are we supposed to actually be thankful for this? A semester’s worth? How about fully funding MAP. How about an entire year budget? 6 month budget….Illinois can’t do anything right


  10. - Anon - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:12 pm:

    here we go

    They are only voting no so they can go back home and said they did their part to vote against a “CPS Bailout” among other reasons.


  11. - Anon221 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:12 pm:

    here we go- Some of the Dems are also voting No.

    Joe- go on Livestream. It drops now and then, but very minor.

    http://livestream.com/blueroomstream/events/5617053


  12. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:12 pm:

    === How about an entire year budget?===

    It’s just not gonna happen now. You gotta deal with the possible.


  13. - Anon221 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:16 pm:

    Are they at least going to finish out the FY 16 holes?


  14. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:26 pm:

    =Why are some of the Republicans voting No? Wasn’t this the grand compromise between Dems and Republicans.=

    For the same reason some of the Democrats are. Local politics and re-election. There are enough Democrats and Republicans to see those bills through, so them voting their district does not threaten those bills.


  15. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:35 pm:

    Wow.

    And people worried about Rauner being trusted?

    Now it appears someone wants to break the deal and change terms at the last minute…


  16. - Anon221 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:36 pm:

    Do they realize the mic is open in the House?


  17. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:37 pm:

    ===someone wants to break the deal and change terms===

    Patience.


  18. - MrCAP - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:38 pm:

    Does anyone know how they are breaking out fy16 vs fy17 in the Bill? SB2047ham003 just gives flat numbers, but it is amending last years appropriations….How will this work??


  19. - Norseman - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:38 pm:

    Sandack stirring the pot. Now all worried about last minute problems. We’ll see. I suspect the new amendment fixes a problem. Dems would be silly to blow up everything now.

    Once again, Sandack tweets first and asks questions later.


  20. - Johnny Pyle Driver - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:50 pm:

    SMDH, possible calamity over $10 million bucks? Who did this and why? Intentional sabatoge?


  21. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:52 pm:

    I have a new admiration for the politicophiles. My God, how you stay calm and patient is beyond me. I guess it’s a skill. People used to ask me how I could deal with so much death when I worked in hospice. I much rather deal with death and grief than this horrific sausage making.


  22. - Norseman - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:54 pm:

    ??? Report of last minute Black Caucus request is one thing. Currie’s action on Amendment 3 points to something else. We’ll see.


  23. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 12:56 pm:

    Norseman, Amendment 3 was the agreed language. Amendment 4 contained the new, unagreed stuff.


  24. - Norseman - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:01 pm:

    === Norseman, Amendment 3 was the agreed language. Amendment 4 contained the new, unagreed stuff. ===

    Yep. One reporter had suggested 4 was a Black Caucus initiative. Implication that it wasn’t part of a plan. Currie’s withdrawal of 3 and the size of 4 seems to imply a bigger thing going on by Dems. We’ll see. Hopefully this is a Rauner agreed thing, but not appropriately communicated to HGOP.


  25. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:01 pm:

    Try to keep up and remove your tinfoil hat. 4 is one page longer than 3.


  26. - ??? - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:02 pm:

    I had been hearing over the last couple of days that the stopgap would include federal funds for the entire year, and I assumed that included operations expenses/salaries that are federally funded. However, the Sun-Times today indicated that the 6-month budget was state and federal funds. Can someone clarify? Thanks.


  27. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:07 pm:

    This type of last minute legislative problem seems ripe for Ken Dunkin to swoop in ad make it work…

    Right?


  28. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:16 pm:

    OW- Why would the black caucus do this? I’m not sure I understand. Is this a Dunkin/Rauner trick staged to give the R’s cover for a blowup or to vote no against the stopgap? Does Rauner control more than Dunkin? Only answer if you’ve got the time.


  29. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:27 pm:

    - Honeybear -

    I was mocking Ken Dunkin because it was just way too easy right now…

    I’m in the same boat as you and others… I can read what’s going on, in real time, and try to see what smokes itself out.

    Right now, I couldn’t tell you more than the tweets we both are reading…

    … thus… “Session is gonna Session… “


  30. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:31 pm:

    Yeah Willy. Ken Dunkin. He’s in the middle of everything and on everyone’s mind. Sort it all out and explain it to the rest of us.


  31. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:32 pm:

    –Amanda Vinicky@AmandaVinicky
    Lawmaker in Black Caucus says they weren’t part of negotiations; he needs to stand up for his district just like downstaters.–

    And they obviously are the key to a structured roll call. Calculated risk that no one will blow it up over $10 million.

    This stuff used to happen all the time when “leaders” had agreed to a structured roll call. Sen. Rock comes to mind, especially.

    Better not take anyone for granted, or legislators will start legislatin’.


  32. - Rod - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:32 pm:

    Honeybear right now they have some leverage, why not try to get what you want. It’s called politics.


  33. - Austinman - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:33 pm:

    Black Caucus members have been upset because they aren’t getting anything that helps then in their district. Thus amendment 4, it’s only 10m.


  34. - Gone - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:33 pm:

    The “my word is my bond” caucus is breaking the deal?


  35. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:34 pm:

    Oh - A Guy -…

    Ken Dunkin is a Raunerite… just like you.

    I woulda thought you’d like the thrice Century Club president is exactly the “guy” you’d want in there… lol


  36. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:34 pm:

    Boys. Move on. Truce! Thanks.


  37. - Anon221 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:40 pm:

    Whoever is talking about Trump and Goldwater needs to realize we can hear every word. That OK with the “speakers”??? If not, better turn off your mic or move away from it.


  38. - phocion - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:43 pm:

    Shakedown artists got to shake.


  39. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:45 pm:

    Thanks for the explanations folks! Thanks for helpin’ the new kid.

    It’s actually kind of funny to go back a few hours and see the wild conspiracy theories I was entertaining. Reminds me of Dumb and Dumber

    “Sampsonite! I was way off!”


  40. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:46 pm:

    ===right now they have some leverage, why not try to get what you want.===

    A declarative statement about precisely what’s wrong with our state.

    Why not?


  41. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:46 pm:

    ==Boys. Move on. Truce! Thanks.===

    Understood sir.


  42. - Thoughts Matter - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:50 pm:

    A deal is a deal only if people understand compromise and priorities. Social service agencies are dying and we have to ruin the deal for diversity training in higher Ed. Ivory towers are pretty diverse thinkers now.


  43. - phocion - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:50 pm:

    ===right now they have some leverage, why not try to get what you want.===
    Honeybear, isn’t that what you found so objectionable about Rauner this whole time? Bottom line is the black caucus have demonstrated that they are unreliable partners in any future discussions.


  44. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:51 pm:

    –The “my word is my bond” caucus is breaking the deal?–

    From a distance, it appears that Madigan, and perhaps Cullerton, got rolled by a subset of the Dem caucus that took a count and realized the “leverage” they had on a structured, super-majority roll call on a final day.

    What are they, or the GOP leaders for that matter going to do about it at this hour? Blow it up?

    “Leverage” works for everyone.

    I mean, it’s not like they signed contracts or anything.


  45. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:52 pm:

    –The House Democrats have agreed to strip the amendment of the additional spending.–

    LOL, this has been the most horrifying hour in state history.


  46. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:53 pm:

    ===… have demonstrated that they are unreliable partners in any future discussions===

    This is NOT helping. Sandack’s tweets aren’t helping in the same thoughts too.

    It’ll get sorted out.


  47. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:54 pm:

    @phocion
    “they are unreliable partners in any future discussions.”
    Wasn’t the problem for the Black Caucus that they weren’t part of the discussions?


  48. - Mr. Smith - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:56 pm:

    Is this really, technically, a budget? I am sure there are legal definitions to meet in order to allow funds to transfer and be expended. And given the number of lawyers in the chambers, I suspect it meets those tests.

    But is it really a budget, or just a budget in name only to keep moms and dads away from their reps/senators’ offices with pitchforks?


  49. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:56 pm:

    ===right now they have some leverage, why not try to get what you want.===

    A declarative statement about precisely what’s wrong with our state.

    Why not?–

    LOL, apply that to everyone, do you?


  50. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 1:57 pm:

    === this has been the most horrifying hour in state history===

    lol

    I’ve learned over the years that this stuff usually gets worked out one way or another. Hard to remain patient, tho with so much at stake and tempers so high.


  51. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:04 pm:

    ===LOL, apply that to everyone, do you?===

    More than you’ll ever know.


  52. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:07 pm:

    –Honeybear, isn’t that what you found so objectionable about Rauner this whole time? Bottom line is the black caucus have demonstrated that they are unreliable partners in any future discussions.–

    No actually, you were quoting OW. I didn’t and still don’t know what was going on with this about the Black Caucus.

    I don’t know why they would pull this, what I would call stunt. Sure, it would make me weary of negotiating with them, but there again. I’m not going to say I am in their shoes.

    No Rauner used hostage taking perfidiously in a way that the hostages couldn’t be freed and were done tremendous harm. The Black caucus just pulled a stunt and then got smacked down. I think there is a big difference.


  53. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:09 pm:

    In the parlance of East St. Louis. “You all is so petty AND extra”!


  54. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:10 pm:

    Leader Drurkin,

    Well said.

    OW


  55. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:13 pm:

    –Andrew Maloney@amaloney24
    House GOP Leader Durkin: Had we left today without positive steps, “public revolt would be one which we’ve never witnessed before.”–

    LOL, Last Chance for Bad Springfield Opera for a while….


  56. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:18 pm:

    –ILHouseGOP@ilhousegop
    Leader Durkin: We have to provide for the greater good of Illinois.–

    There’s a word for that, I know I’ve been hearing it a lot lately…….. it’ll come to me…..


  57. - northsider (the original) - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:23 pm:

    —– provide for the greater good of Illinois—-

    Sounds collectivist to me!


  58. - here we go - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 2:32 pm:

    Is it possible that the Black caucus will vote this down?


  59. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:07 pm:

    So is this when that Journalist gets to shave his beard? Does stopgap count? Or does he just get to trim it?


  60. - Nick Name - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:10 pm:

    Lotta green on that board.


  61. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:12 pm:

    ===Lotta green on that board.===

    “We’re all in this together” ending, not the “Scooby-Doo” ending…


  62. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:16 pm:

    Anyone have a ballpark on the deficit in this “paid-for” stopgap? The added billions to unpaid bills?

    Because just like that “travesty” the Dems passed at the end of May, this one studiously ignores consent-decree spending.

    I’m sure GOMB will produce those numbers shortly, like they did then.


  63. - Anon221 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:18 pm:

    wordslinger- Will they have those handy for Rauner at his 4 pm presser today? Hopefully he’ll hold off on attack mode until Friday.


  64. - illini97 - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:23 pm:

    So, was that a CPS “bailout?” I have several mailers that say my Representative opposes that.


  65. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:27 pm:

    @Honeybear - last I heard, Chris will be shaving the budget beard today.

    Things got a bit tense at the end, but the beard should be gone soon.


  66. - BBG Watch - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:31 pm:

    “We’re all in this together” ending, not the “Scooby-Doo” ending…

    So they all don’t get a Scooby snack? lol


  67. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:35 pm:

    +++ Formerly Known As… - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:27 pm:

    @Honeybear - last I heard, Chris will be shaving the budget beard today.

    Things got a bit tense at the end, but the beard should be gone soon.++++

    Surprised he can see through it at this point. This shave might require enlisting a professional and doing it in more than one phase. He’s got more hair than Oscar right now.


  68. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:36 pm:

    - BBG Watch -

    How about Cannoli for everyone(?)


  69. - burbanite - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:44 pm:

    Were robocalls today really necessary? Please tell me Ives has a challenger in the upcoming election.


  70. - Nick Name - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:52 pm:

    ““We’re all in this together” ending, not the “Scooby-Doo” ending…”

    Or the “this one time, I’ll let you ask me about my business” ending.


  71. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:54 pm:

    ===Or the “this one time, I’ll let you ask me about my business” ending===

    Hmm, if you go Godfather… you have to go…

    “I made the chambers an offer they couldn’t refuse”


  72. - BBG Watch - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 3:57 pm:

    == Sen. Trotter: “This isn’t really a special thing, we have simply done our job. Not undoing the damage we’ve done.” ==

    There is a LOT of damage! I wonder how much this stopgap “grand bargain” cost the state.

    -OW-
    Cannoli it is.


  73. - Dee Lay - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 4:18 pm:

    Republican Leader Durkin: “Taxpayers won because we stopped democrats from passing $7 billion unbalanced budget”

    What. A. Dolt.


  74. - walker - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 4:42 pm:

    Rauner did well in presser, except for last little bit when he got into the “growth state” schtick.

    Interesting that he thanked Cullerton, Emanuel, and the “Democratic Caucus” but not Madigan.


  75. - Mama - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 4:45 pm:

    “Madigan issues warning to Rauner: budget issues for vulnerable will continue to be priority, not things that hurt middle class.”

    1. Can anyone tell me what Madigan means by this statement?

    2. Does this mean Madigan is willing to pass a bill to do away with the unions right to bargain?


  76. - A guy - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 5:00 pm:

    Walk, I’ve been thinking about that since I heard it. Those talks must have been very interesting leading up to this.


  77. - Just The Way It Is One - Thursday, Jun 30, 16 @ 5:49 pm:

    For Q of Day at end of Spring Session ’bout a month ago, my Word choice to best describe the status of things was “Stopgap.” Somehow, I remained hopeful. Well, all I can say now is, thank God Almighty, it’s done. My one Word choice for today: “Finally…!”


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