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$8 billion is still higher than $7 billion
Friday, Jul 15, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller * Gov. Rauner spoke to reporters today and said this…
* Let’s review, shall we? The governor has claimed for weeks and weeks that the House Democrats’ budget proposal was $7 billion out of whack. The Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability projects the stopgap budget the governor negotiated and signed is almost $8 billion out of whack. 8>7 * Raw audio…
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- Nick Name - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:24 am:
Word salad from Gov. 1.4%.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:27 am:
Math is Math is Math.
“Reform” isn’t math, “reform” has yet to be measured beyond 1.4% and $500+ million.
Rauner keeps saying things like this because no one will call him on it… in real time.
So… Math is really creative thinking?
Right? Exactly right.
- very old soil - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:27 am:
Picky, picky, picky
- Annonin' - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:29 am:
The bietter comparison is the May 31 StopGap Trap Big Brain wanted the GOPies to pass. Had they done it…colleges and universities down $400 million, no MAP, less for healthcare, schools. Most will happy BigBrain was blocked by that evil Culerton/Madigan bunch.
- Norseman - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:30 am:
Rauner memo to staff: Next time inflate your guestimate of Dem budget proposals by a few billion more.
- Nick Name - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:32 am:
“I can’t find where we’ve ever had a balanced budget in Illinois. We’ve never had one.” - just after the 4-minute mark
Help me, is this as totally whacked as I think it is?
- Anonymous - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:33 am:
Didn’t the Democrats budget get us through the year while the even more out of balance stop gap only gets us to December?
- Michelle Flaherty - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:34 am:
A Rauner 8 is less than a Dem Super Majority 7.
C’mon, everyone knows that.
It’s basic math.
And that’s why this budget is balanced.
Just ask any Republican.
Ok, not McSweeney or Ives.
- Louis G. Atsaves - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:34 am:
Nudging called it slightly over $7 billion. The CGFA called it approximately $7.75 billion.
How big of an ice berg did the SS Illinois Titanic hit? And all sides are squabbling about the size of the ice berg that put a massive hole in the SS Illinois Titanic?
How about big enough to leave some real pain and cause real problems.
- Under Influenced - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:36 am:
Always one to look at the bright side…the boat could indeed be sinking much quicker. Luckily, we have a captain at the wheel with a steady hand.
- Norseman - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:38 am:
Rauner rhetoric before stopgap: I will not sign an unbalanced budget.
Rauner rhetoric after stopgap: Well, this unbalanced budget is a bridge and it’s less unbalanced than the Dems proposal.
Rauner rhetoric after Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability projection: Well, its less unbalanced than what the Dems dreamed of making it.
- JS Mill - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:41 am:
= Luckily, we have a captain at the wheel with a steady hand.=
Yes, I am sure we can trust the brave captain to let the women and children go first.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:42 am:
===about big enough to leave some real pain and cause real problems.===
You enjoy the destruction…
===End result? Oh, well. Lots of pain and suffering and a train wreck.===
Your sincere lack of empathy to people hurting is noted.
- Daniel Plainview - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:44 am:
- And all sides are squabbling about the size of the ice berg that put a massive hole in the SS Illinois Titanic? -
No, your hero is bragging that the stopgap costs less than Madigan’s proposal, which is a blatant lie.
But keep shilling, no one is squabbling about the size of that $125k additional income you’re getting thanks to Bruce.
- AC - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:44 am:
Sure, but the 7 billion deficit would’ve included a continuation of evil collectivism. The 8 billion deficit helped promote creative destruction of the most vulnerable in Illinois, and that’s got to be worth a few bucks. /s
- Regular democrat - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:45 am:
Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason. I believe this applies here
- wordslinger - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:45 am:
It’s just so dreary. The vast majority of media don’t follow up with this guy on anything.
They take dictation, put in a “personality conflict” paragraph and call it a day. Some will grow a beard “to call attention” to themselves, I mean the “problem.”
Rauner can spout the most loony whoppers and most media just let it slide.
He’s “lined up dozens of corporations across the nation ready to relocate to Illinois.”
Entire state agencies “have no computers.” He saw “a room with 200 state employees doing work by paper, not one computer.”
It’s crazy talk. What’s crazier is actually reporting that stuff straight.
- illini - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:48 am:
To a point I made several days ago - some people will never let the facts get in the way of making what they see as being a compelling point.
- Nick Name - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:51 am:
“I can’t find where we’ve ever had a balanced budget in Illinois. We’ve never had one.”
That was today’s whopper.
- Rich Miller - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:54 am:
===That was today’s whopper.==
Nah. I’d rate that mostly true for the past 80 or 90 years. Why? Because pensions have pretty much always been way under-funded.
- Honeybear - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:57 am:
This Ayn Randian objectivist/libertarian feces has got to stop. A government spends revenues to reflect it’s policy priorities. A government does not exist to destroy itself or the people it serves. This self kamikaze mentality (like a kamikaze pilot crashing into his own ship to deprive the enemy of targets), this “starve the beast”, this “government is bad and wasteful” line of reasoning has brought us to ruin.
Stop, just stop
- Bruce (no not him) - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:03 pm:
If you keep repeating a lie often enough, eventually everyone will think it’s the truth.
Did any of the reporters call him on this?
- Ghost - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:08 pm:
not to nit pick but the general assembly does not spend any money. they give permission to spend. it is only the Gov who can choose to actually over spend. the gov is 100 able to limit his spending to actual recenue on his own. he is not made to spend beyound court orders….. he is choosing to spend money he doesnt have.
- JS Mill - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:12 pm:
=Nudging called it slightly over $7 billion. The CGFA called it approximately $7.75 billion.=
I guess $750 million is not much to you? Must be nice.
How cavalier of you.
- Kerfuffle - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:49 pm:
A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real money - Everett Dirksen it still rings true in Illinois!
- Not quite a majority - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 1:02 pm:
How fast can we get Oscar the puppy through the Public Affairs Reporting program so somebody will ask a follow up? And no, I’m not kidding nor am I being snarky.
- Anon221 - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 2:26 pm:
From the Q&A on the raw audio:
Does Rauner truly believes that a tax increase is only going to be necessary to cover interest charges??? He seems to only think that a balanced budget with reforms (only been in the form of poison pills to date) which is a one-legged stool, or a balance budget and reforms (separate bills without poison pills???) which is a two legged stool. Neither of these types of stools will get the job done. You can keep trying to balance, but you’ll eventually tip over.
- X-prof - Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 3:40 pm:
Has anyone else noticed that whenever Rauner puts out that nervous half laugh it’s usually preceded by a tough question he can’t answer and followed by a gross whopper studded with stock slogans and phrases like ‘the supermajority’, ‘reforms to grow our economy’, and so forth?
Makes me think some poker games with this guy could help with that income inequality thing.
Examples 3:01, 3:41, 5:30