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Rauner won’t say if there’s a fall-back plan
Monday, Dec 12, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller * Gov. Rauner was asked today if he had a contingency plan in place in case he doesn’t get a full budget or a stopgap budget…
“How can you say that?” a reporter asked…
And then he went on to talk yet again about how raising taxes won’t solve anything and how growth is a must. And then he claimed, yet again, that several Democrats privately support his ideas without naming anybody. And then he changed the subject. However, subscribers know a little about his fallback plan - and it’s all bad for Chicago and for certain Democratic legislators with state facilities. * Raw audio… * Meanwhile…
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- don the legend - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:38 pm:
If I was a cartoonist I would draw Governor Rauner painting himself into a corner.
- Grand Avenue - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:39 pm:
Some comedian needs to do a sendup of these videos. The g dropping, the bold fonts - corny with a capital CORNY
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:39 pm:
Did I miss the “Diana Rauner” version of Facebook Live!
I have been looking forward to Diana in front of cameras again mocking all social services and talkin’ business decisions…
I’ll wait, honest.
To the Post,
Until Rauner stands on stairs with 60 House and 30 Senate members, and note, for that to happen, Democrats will have to be on those stairs…
… Rauner is as phony as idea that “it’ll work out” smugness.
Rauner can’t get 60 and 30.
Otherwise he’d show everyone he has it.
Wouldn’t that show Madigan? That 60 and 30?
The plan IS goin’ accordin’ to plan.
Maybe Mendoza can use her actual constitutional powers, not perceived or imagined, and let the Governor know…
“Tick-tock, Governor, tick-tock”
- Grand Avenue - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:40 pm:
Not a bad message though - he’s fighting for term limits & a property tax freeze while Madigan opposes them because he wants to cling onto power and continue to make Millions appealing taxes.
- Saluki Matt - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:40 pm:
By state facilities, I hope you don’t mean public higher education. And like others on this board, I’ve wondered why Rauner can’t get all his Republican and Democratic supporters in a room, demonstrating that the required number of votes to pass any TA items exists in this coalition, and just get on with it.
- GOPgal - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:41 pm:
Question about the budget? Um, why don’t you submit a budget governor?
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:43 pm:
When Chicago State and Eastern Illinois University both close and Western Illinois University loses its certification(s), ask that question again.
It won’t be long.
They’ll write about the RaunerS destruction and that book will be found at the Rauner Library… at Dartmouth.
Right? Exactly right.
- walker - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:44 pm:
Rauner answered this as well as any Governor might. He cannot continue to negotiate if he publicly undercuts his own position by showing a lesser option.
His more accurate answer might have been: “Yes we have a backup plan, but I won’t tell you what it is.” How would that play?
- AlfondoGonz - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:44 pm:
“Buhlieve me.”
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:45 pm:
The thing is… the majority of the public love term limits.
- AlfondoGonz - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:47 pm:
“Rauner answered this as well as any Governor might. He cannot continue to negotiate if he publicly undercuts his own position by showing a lesser option. ”
Your first sentence is simply ridiculous. If that is good enough for you, so be it. The second begs the question…can one who has thus far refused to negotiate, continue to negotiate?
- Aldyth - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:48 pm:
How many times have we heard that a Republican has an unnamed, undisclosable plan? Where have we heard that before?
- Ducky LaMoore - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:48 pm:
How do you plan to be reelected if during your whole tenure you never pass (or even present) a (balanced) budget? #RaunerLive
- AlfondoGonz - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:48 pm:
To be clear:
Negotiating is “I’ll do this if you’ll do that.”
It is not “I won’t do anything unless you do this.”
- CrazyHorse - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:49 pm:
==The thing is… the majority of the public love term limits.==
A majority of the public also love a Progressive State Income Tax. If it’s all about what the public loves then that needs to be added to the mix as well.
- anon - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:50 pm:
November 2018 make your voice heard Illinois..Rauner is not the answer…
- Ducky LaMoore - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:51 pm:
===The thing is… the majority of the public love term limits.===
Yeah everybody loves them until they have them. Just ask Idaho, Massachusetts, Utah, and Washington.
- Anon - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:52 pm:
I guess we all know that lowering taxes sure didn’t work.
- Nick Name - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:53 pm:
“Everything that we’re advocating has strong bipartisan support.”
So what will you do when Ken Dunkin’s no longer around?
- Anon - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:54 pm:
“Darn, I forgot it was costume day! Guess this blue shirt and black slacks’ll have to do.”
- The Captain - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:55 pm:
=== However, subscribers know a little about his fallback plan - and it’s all bad for Chicago and for certain Democratic legislators with state facilities. ===
Remember how Quinn used a bunch of facility closings to help cut/balance the budget and the voters in those areas totally blamed their legislators for the closings and gave none of the blame to Quinn and how he cruised to re-election in 2014? Yeah, me neither.
- Anon221 - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:55 pm:
Is the blue iPhone for the Dems he has in his back pocket, and the red iPhone for all the R’s???
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:59 pm:
Is this some of that fake news?
- Honeybear - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 2:59 pm:
Destruction is the feature not a bug and perfidy is how we get there.
- Annonin' - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:00 pm:
Did he mention why he is sending out twitter comments about term limits that kick in in 2028?
Some good news…Superstars told a WC meetin’
last week they have given up on trying to make us West IN. —yippie …And the education SUperstars said they will not have funding plan ready for the Grand Bargain…mean IL GOPie bein’ hacked by the Ruskies shows how important this is.
Is BigBrain mad cause Capt Fax has not posted the WSJ story with the IPI gloatin about huge sweep in IL?
- The Dude Abides - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:01 pm:
Before implementing a term limit law maybe we should make sure that if we do it’s not later thrown out by the courts like the pension reform law was. It’s my understanding that term limit laws have been thrown out by courts in several other states already. But hey, if it makes the Governor more popular with the public lets go ahead and waste time on it. It’s not like there are more important issues to solve, like a budget.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:04 pm:
==A majority of the public also love a Progressive State Income Tax. If it’s all about what the public loves then that needs to be added to the mix as well.==
Oh that pesky little constitution. Georgia and Colorado both have a flat income tax rate and are their economies are BOOMING.
- Romeo - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:09 pm:
Just came back from Colorado, and the growth there is stunning. Let’s see: great weather, beautiful mountains, legal cannabis, and a Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights….what’s not to love?
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:12 pm:
==The thing is… the majority of the public love term limits.==
== Except when it comes to their own representative or senator the majority of the public love term limits.==
But term limits on the office of Governor…this is something the majority really love.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:13 pm:
Oh, goody, another half hour of Facebook Live. During which hell make about as much as the average Illinois household makes in an entire year. What does he know about people who rely on government services?
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:14 pm:
Would you jump off the bridge if all your friends were doing it?
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:14 pm:
We don’t need term limits now. Term limits have nothing to do with the budget. They are just ways for Rauner to remake the political landscape. Rauner’s also tryin’ by eliminating union fair share fees and weakening Democrats’ big supporters.
All this pain and crisis for…term limits? It would be laughable if it wasn’t so cruel.
- Scamp640 - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:15 pm:
@ Romeo: You forgot to mention that Colorado has a Democratic Governor.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:18 pm:
==The thing is… the majority of the public love term limits.==
We don’t know that for a fact. What we do know for a fact is that the majority of the public favors an increase in minimum wage…. and that’s not even under consideration.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:23 pm:
==We don’t know that for a fact. What we do know for a fact is that the majority of the public favors an increase in minimum wage…. and that’s not even under consideration. ==
Put term limits on the ballot for a constitutional amendment and we’ll see what happens.
- Deft Wing - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:27 pm:
The Gov is just not a smooth spokesperson, which is certainly no crime. He often times seems uncomfortable even during scripted messages, and things only get worse in Q & A instances when he needs to go off-the-cuff.
His answer about a lack of a back-up plan was pretty bad and his constant talk about Dems that secretly support him is beyond a lame non-sequitur now.
He needs to get better at messaging …. especially if things go from (very, very) bad to worse — which seems to be inevitable.
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:29 pm:
Term limits limit voting rights
- Matt Belcher - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:32 pm:
===Georgia and Colorado both have a flat income tax rate and are their economies are BOOMING.===
Georgia: 5.40 percent
Colorado: 4.63 percent
Illinois: 3.75 percent
N. Carolina: 5.75 percent
- Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:33 pm:
He’s makin a list
Checkin it twice
Gonna find out which members get primaried tonight
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:39 pm:
Question:
Governor, you have dumped millions of dollars into your “Blame Madigan” campaign and into tying Democratic legislators and even potential gubernatorial contenders to Mike Madigan.
Won’t the effectiveness of this campaign be diminished by an actual budget deal?
If so, what is your incentive to actually negotiate a budget?
- DuPage - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:41 pm:
The “strongest signal” Rauner has sent to job creators is that he allowed electric rates to go higher then states like Iowa which has a lot of wind power available at cheaper rates. At the same time, he is allowing COMED to block competition that is trying to bring some of that Iowa wind power into Illinois, (the Rock Island Clean Line Project). The message to job creators: If you want that cheaper power for your business, you will need to locate your business across the river in Iowa.
- Lincoln Clay - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:41 pm:
I’m in agreement with Ducky. How does he get re-elected with no accomplishments to point to? Especially when he goes out of his way to openly antagonize the Chicagoland area, where the majority of voters live? Say he does target areas in and around Chicago and college towns when implementing spending to target D areas - some of these folks either voted for him over Quinn, or didn’t bother to vote in the Gov race. That doesn’t usually reoccur when openly antagonizing them. Plus his right to work obsession won’t be glossed over this time like it was in 2010. Plus Rahm isn’t going to help him out this time. He will need to get at least some support from Chicago and the burbs. This isn’t the south where he can have a friendly SOS or election board change a bunch of rules in order to suppress minority voting.
The cowardly Illinois media establishment will still keep serving him softballs and endorsements at every turn, and he’ll still have gobs of money for commercials but I still don’t see how that can be enough for him to win in 2018.
- Henry Francis - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:42 pm:
I love the picture of him workin hard at night . . . signin’ more emails.
Not sure if workin in the dark is to convey that he is workin night and day on the budget, or a nod to the Victorious Exelon bill. (Or is it to hide the cake?)
- yeah - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:43 pm:
Sure there is an emergency back up plan. They have the advertisements for slightly used brick buildings in Chicago, Macomb, and Charleston ready to go in TRONC and W$J auction sections.
Not sure if this is snark or true. A gess maybe?
- Thoughts Matter - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:44 pm:
” the majority of the public love term limits ” ….right up until the majority of the legislators are freshman and can’t find their lockers and don’t understand state government.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:47 pm:
Aside from all the accolades here, this is the first good picture I’ve ever seen of him (top pic). And he wasn’t doing the very tiresome 👍
- Higer Ed - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:52 pm:
Are term limits going to bring desperately needed funds to my university? Is redistricting going to keep more employees from losing their jobs at my work place. Is the proposed turn around agenda doing anything to keep the approximately 16,000 students who annually leave Illinois from going across our state lines? No, I didn’t think so.
For the love of Pete, it is time to open your eyes and see what you are doing to higher education in our state!
- Frank - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:55 pm:
Let me say it publicly this Democrat supports some of gov. Rauner Ideas . Term limits and property tax freeze I’m in sign me up
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 3:56 pm:
===For the love of Pete, it is time to open your eyes and see what you are doing to higher education in our state===
Rauner knows exactly what’s goin’ on with higher education.
Rauner approves.
Phillips approves too.
Charleston? Elections have consequences, Charleston.
- Sir Reel - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:01 pm:
His garbalded response to the question is telling. He says “we” or “we’re” twice and “I” or “I’m” 4 times. This is how you build consensus, not.
- Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:04 pm:
Part of the Exelon deal was that the governor double the number of lights he uses in his photo ops.
- Nick Name - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:16 pm:
“I’m frustrated.”
Heh, yeah.
- Johnnie F. - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:23 pm:
Fallback plan….blame Madigan!
- Wensicia - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:30 pm:
Translation: “I’ll never release the hostages until I get what I want.”
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:38 pm:
Term limits gow the economy that’s common knowledge
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:50 pm:
“but I’m very persistent.”
Carnage and lasting damage be damned
- Michael Westen - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:52 pm:
Grand Avenue do you know how ridiculous that is. First, the Governor is the one who more than tripled his income last year while doing business with the state. Second, Madigan’s law practice is appealing the value of the property assessments, not the rate of the property tax levy by local governments. Not only would a property tax freeze not hurt his practice, it could very well help it.
- NoGifts - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 4:52 pm:
It seems like if there was actually strong bipartisan support, he’d be able to do it. So I’d say it is weak to nonexistent.
- AC - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 5:03 pm:
== Everything that we’re advocating has strong bipartisan support==
Sounds like it’s time to put some bills together and put them up for a vote. I mean, seeing as there’s bipartisan support and all.
- City Zen - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 5:22 pm:
==I guess we all know that lowering taxes sure didn’t work.==
Income taxes are below 3%?! Since when?
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 5:41 pm:
Let’s term limit Bruce to one term.
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 7:34 pm:
We need term limits now, if popularity is the standard why isn’t Clinton president?
- tunes - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 8:31 pm:
If Rauner hasn’t term limited himself, I’ll be shocked. I’m a moderate conservative but I will campaign against him. He’s ruining our state (as is Madigan).
- RNUG - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 8:34 pm:
Rauner’s fall back plan is from the Cold War: MAD aka Mutually Assured Destruction.
- peon - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 9:54 pm:
The people are harmed by the lack of a budget, not only his political opponents, so why should the DEM caucus split as he suggests ?
If anything the executive needs a budget more.
Fortunately reality will intervene yet again. Hello stopgap. You can’t have big things closing down.
- Anonymous - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 10:03 pm:
Let’s start term limits in Texas & Indiana.
- Facts are stubborn things - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 10:36 pm:
We have term limits…they are called elections. Property taxes are frozen unless increases are approved by voters or by elected officials.
- Rabid - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 10:42 pm:
He’s picked his legacy term limits. Started his political career with an unconstitutional petition for term limits. The only thing out of 44 point plan is term limits that will grow Illinois? It’s either a whim or bragging rights
- Facts are stubborn things - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 10:43 pm:
Actually Bruce, raising taxes is essential to solving the structural deficit in Illinois. The number one problem facing the state of Illinois is the budget. You can get to 60 and 30 with a budget of cuts and taxes, but not for the TA. Do what is doable and also most important.
- Raunigan - Monday, Dec 12, 16 @ 11:06 pm:
So he is insisting term limits NOW…to take effect 12 years from now? Man Rich you gotta add those fancy facebook like thumb icons and hilariously laughing emojies. It would so richly enhance the responses here! Also would love to know when Gov Rauner started saying “rigged”. It wouldn’t have anything to do with playing to the same folks that just put Trump in the WH would it?
- sal-says - Tuesday, Dec 13, 16 @ 8:28 am:
Close the State?
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Dec 13, 16 @ 8:32 am:
At least one editorial is calling for Rauner to take the lead… because of the State Constitution-
http://www.commercial-news.com/editorials/editorial-rauner-should-take-the-lead/article_4325b54f-f6ae-5460-9494-09164c304dc0.html
- JDuc - Tuesday, Dec 13, 16 @ 3:28 pm:
He better have a plan B or C…..