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Norwood defends her boss on HB 40, but sponsor says Rauner is trying to change the subject after “lying”
Tuesday, Apr 25, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller * Illinois Healthcare and Family Services Director and former Planned Parenthood Vice Chair Felicia Norwood cut a video to defend Gov. Rauner’s decision to veto HB 40… * One of the claims Director Norwood makes in the video was something I told subscribers about yesterday and the Tribune had today…
* I called Rep. Feigenholtz this morning and asked her about Norwood’s claim. Feigenholtz said she’d received a “confidential” call from the governor’s staff telling her that Gov. Rauner would sign HB 40 without the Medicaid and state employee health insurance coverage expansions. Rauner, at the time, was under huge pressure from his right flank to veto the bill. “I would never separate those bills,” Rep. Feigenholtz said. “They are very very important to women,” she said, adding that the General Assembly “has to undo” what she called an “injustice.” Rauner, she correctly noted, had submitted a questionnaire to Personal PAC which “not only checked the right box,” but also included a long addendum that extrapolated on his strong belief that Medicaid and state employee insurance should cover abortions. The governor “filled out a questionnaire for the highest state office in government,” and then “lied to voters in this state. And that to me is a betrayal,” Feigenholtz said. “They’re using this to try to change the subject, but they are the ones who lied,” she said. …Adding… From a GOP operative…
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- Another Guy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:24 am:
Watched first ten seconds of the video, was distracted by her eyes moving while reading the script. Seemed robotic/forced and hardly genuine. :/
- T Sowell - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:32 am:
It is about time the Gov had someone create factual messaging on his position on HB40. And using a female former PP board member, adds street cred on this issue.
- Come on - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:34 am:
Feigenholtz may or may not be taking a principled stand, but by refusing to split the bill, she is effectively killing the bill. How is her refusal to split the legislation any difference than their criticism of Rauner for not de-linking the budget from reforms?
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:34 am:
“They’re using this to try to change the subject”
Said the person who is using this bill to change the subject. That response alone shows she knows what she is doing.
- Ok - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:35 am:
Illinois has had enough of Boss Rauner.
#ByeFelicia
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:37 am:
Rauner’s questionnaire response and the possibility of vetoing HB40 run parallel to the question, but show Rauner blatently misleading Personal PAC and Diana Rauner purposely vouching for something now proven to be untrue.
The only way Rauner gets out of his hypocrisy is to sign HB40.
That’s it. Rauner’s questionnaire answer tells me so.
Anything else? Well, anything else confirms another Diana and Bruce hypocrisy. This time, it’s Bruce having no social agenda
An Ounce of Deception.
- Texas Red - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:46 am:
==Well, anything else confirms another Diana and Bruce hypocrisy
Campaign rhetoric or messaging in favor of legislation can generally be taken with a grain of salt…”Under the reforms we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”
- phocion - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 11:57 am:
Yes, Willy. We all know you have the Governor’s political interests at heart, and that he will rush to do as you command. #RaunnerTroll
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:00 pm:
More nonsense. Rauner filled out a confidential questionnaire that was leaked. Would he be the first political to change his mind? Nope
The Governor made no such promise to voters he would advoate for taxpayer funded abortion.
If those that are accusing the Governor about lying to voters were consistent that would also call out the politicians who are lying about Governor Rauner’s supposed non existent promise to voters.
The Governor has to sign a piece of legislation that does not enjoy majority support of Illinois voters because OW and other left wingers say so?
Let the political who has not “lied” throw the first stone. I think they will need to go to a quarry
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:00 pm:
- phocion -
I can’t help that Diana and Bruce Rauner purposely deceived voters with answers, you can read if you’d like, on the questionnaire… and those “no social agenda” Diana Rauner ads…
Rauner gets out of his hypocrisy is to sign HB40.
That’s it. Rauner’s questionnaire answer tells me so.
That’s how keeping your word works.
Making it about me isn’t making an argument.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:02 pm:
===”Under the reforms we seek”===
Meh. Go read what Rauner actually wrote.
- 47th Ward - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:03 pm:
===Rauner filled out a confidential questionnaire that was leaked===
LOL! Is that the best you’ve got LP? Who told you it was confidential?
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:09 pm:
LP -
He specifically supported Medicaid coverage of abortion. If that isn’t “taxpayer funding for abortion” I don’t know what is.
He lied, blatantly. Feel free to sink with his ship, though. It’s funny watching you tie yourself in rhetorical knots.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:10 pm:
===Rauner filled out a confidential questionnaire that was leaked.===
That’s very… Trump-like…
The leaker is at fault. Oh boy.
===Governor made no such promise to voters he would advoate for taxpayer funded abortion.===
Both Rauner misled Cosgrove and Personal PAC, one by a questionnaire, the other by phony ads we now see differently, thus the uproar.
===If those that are accusing the Governor about lying to voters were consistent that would also call out the politicians who are lying about…===
So are you admitting Rauner is lying, ’cause that would solve this whole thing.
Pointing to others, that’s a deception too.
===Governor has to sign a piece of legislation that does not enjoy majority support of Illinois voters because OW and other left wingers say so?===
Shorter…
Does Rauner need to sign HB40 to show he has no social agenda as both Diana and Bruce Rauner said?
Meh. The RaunerS hypocrisy is the only consistent they have, why change now?
===Let the political who has not “lied” throw the first stone.===
This sentence only works if you believe Diana and Bruce Rauner lied.
That’s … um… telling.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:16 pm:
No social agenda means mandatory taxpayer funding of abortion? Why was this never pushed when Democrats had total control of state government?
Because it is not a majority position even in Blue states.
Could this be more political games from Democrats?
Yes of course it is.
Have any of them ever lied?
Give me a break the lie detector machine would go haywire if they hooked them all up to it.
Start with this whopper. I pledge to work cooperatively and professionally with the Governor on a budget that contains cuts and revenues.
How any pinoochios does that one get?
There are a million more
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:18 pm:
New standard in Springfield
Every time someone changes their mind they are liars.
Why don’t politicians have the respect of Illinois voters?
Games like this are exhibit A
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:23 pm:
===No social agenda means mandatory taxpayer funding of abortion? Why was this never pushed when Democrats had total control of state government===
Diana Rauner, a Democrat, vouched that Bruce has no social agenda. Further, a possible veto of HB40 runs in the face of Bruce Rauner’s own answers.
What is so hard for you to understand. Rauner has a social agenda, and it’s not something Personal PAC thought it was, given what Bruce responded.
===Have any of them ever lied?===
Bruce lied? That’s your take.
Very well. Bruce and Diana misled a whole state. Good to know, especially suburban women…
The rest of your drivel concedes the point, Diana and Bruce misled voters. That’s your angle.
Yikes.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:25 pm:
===Every time someone changes their mind they are liars===
Bruce Rauner changed his stance?
“Bruce has no social agenda” - Diana Rauner.
You may wanna tell Diana, lol
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:33 pm:
===Rauner filled out a confidential questionnaire that was leaked.===
What in the world are you talking about? How does that statement possibly make any sense to you?
Rauner flipped: some people like it, some people don’t. That’s life in the NFL.
But you Bots give the impression that he’s some delicate daisy that’s going to fall apart at any reasonable criticism.
Tell him to Cowboy Up. He’s got the hat and vest already.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:40 pm:
None of you can provide any verification of Governor Rauner’s promise to Illinois voters that he would advocate for taxpayer funding of abortion because he did not.
He answered a confidential questionnaire, and has said the issue is too divisive to pass.
Does anyone thing the issue is not divisive?
Does anyone think it has majority support? No poll indicates that an inconvenient fact that even Eric Zorn admits.
Of course it does not enjoy majority support but it sure does fire up the left wing base. They are great at that.
Solving Illinois problems, not nearly as effective.
Hopefully they bring the giant Trump Balloon to the rally, that will for sure be a hit
- Just Saying - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:51 pm:
that is one of the Democrats greatest challenges for 2018. Running against a candidate that is very comfortable lying
- ste_with_av_en - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 12:56 pm:
Rauner already signed pro-choice bills to the dismay of conservatives. Apparently keeping that status quo on our currently very pro-choice state is caving to the right. Anti-Raunerbots are loving it. Meanwhile there is a small child out there who’s oxygen machine is on the verge of being repossessed due to the state not paying their share for health insurance.
- 47th Ward - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
===a confidential questionnaire===
So he lied in private and that’s OK? Lol. But the questionnaire was not confidential. The reason Personal PAC asks candidates to answer the questionnaire is precisely to inform the membership of Personal PAC where the candidate stands on their issues.
That’s the opposite of confidential LP. You should contact the mother ship and ask for better talking points.
- walker - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 2:56 pm:
If you think you might have to change your position, and risk being beaten over the head with your answers to a pre-election questionnaire, don’t provide so much detail.
Little doubt Rauner actually changed his position. It happens a lot.
- don the legend - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 3:12 pm:
The Governor made no such promise to voters he would advoate for taxpayer funded abortion.
Hey LP, who do you think those questionnaires are meant for? Iowa voters? Indiana voters?
Sheesh
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 3:22 pm:
Terry Cosgrove, president and CEO of Personal PAC, said the group’s candidate questionnaires usually are kept private. But Cosgrove said Rauner had “betrayed” the group’s trust and it decided to release the survey.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-abortion-issue-illinois-governor-race-0420-20170419-story.html
Why did Mr Cosgrove lie about the questionnaire being kept private?
i am going to guess candidates are not going to believe Mr Cosgrove when he says the questionnaires will remain private.
Mr Cosgrove accusing others of lying is a bit hypocritical.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 3:25 pm:
===…usually are kept private.===
Yep. Until Personal PAC gets duped and possibly double-crossed.
The mere fact you’re worried about leaked questionnaires only highlights the Rauner hypocrisy being seen, and it’s unsettling.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 3:33 pm:
it is unsettling for a self identified, devout Catholic such as yourself, who frequently castigates others you disagree with to “see you in Church” try to pretend (without any evidence) that opposing taxpayer funded abortion is somehow outside of the mainstream.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 3:52 pm:
===…it is unsettling for a self identified, devout Catholic such as yourself…===
… who is not governor of Illinois, didn’t fill out a questionnaire for Personal PAC and his in a hypocrisy conundrum with “no social agenda”
Rauner is governor. Making it about me isn’t making an argument.
I may be fully opposed to HB40 due to my Faith.
I may be fully in favor of HB40 due in part that my Faith isn’t the instrument I feel public policy should be based upon.
I may be opposed to HB40 as a Republican, citing the Hyde Amendment and this Bill framed within it.
I may be in favor of HB40 because I’m a Republican and having the wealth of female patients be a deciding factor in procedures that, when done in the past, and done without proper medical care led to serious health crisises and death.
The “thing” is, I’m not Governor.
Now, if - Norseman - pulls off the greatest statewide write-in upset ever, I may face something like Rauner is facing here.
So my Faith, or if I support or oppose this Bill, be it my Faith or Party, it doesn’t change one thing Rauner faces… now… as the sitting governor.
- Juvenal - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 4:15 pm:
Lucky:
Rauner’s questionnaire wasn’t leaked.
They held a press conference calling him out for lying.
That is not a leak.
Secondly, I dunno who told you that the questionnaires are “confidential.”
If candidates fill out a questionnaire and indicate they are anti-choice, Personal PAC does not keep that a secret.
I don’t think I have ever seen a gubernatorial candidate lie on a questionnaire before, but I do not think any candidate has any reasonable expectation that those who break their promises are entitled to protection from those they lied to.
- Johnny Justice - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 5:14 pm:
This is an easy one for Rauner. If he supports the bill except for the part having Medicaid & state employee health insurance pay for abortions, he should’ve said he’d amendatorily veto the bill, removing those parts. Then the ball would be back in the legislature’s court as to whether to accept his changes and get half a loaf, or go for the full override, and probably get nothing.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 5:21 pm:
LP: “None of you can provide any verification of Governor Rauner’s promise to Illinois voters that he would advocate for taxpayer funding of abortion because he did not.”
Bruce Rauner: “I dislike the Illinois law that restricts abortion coverage under the state Medicaid plan and state employees’ health insurance because I believe it unfairly restricts access based on income. I would support a legislative effort to reverse that law.”
– MrJM
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 7:42 pm:
Mr Rauner’s answers were not directed to voters but to Mr Cosgrove’s organization through the questionnaire that is “kept private”
Rauner did not promise voters he would advocate for taxpayer funded abortion no matter how you try to spin it.
The fact as Governor he believes the issue is to divisive given all of the problems Illiniois faces does not mean his views have changed. They may or may not have but everyone is overlooking the bill is a political calculation by democrats designed to drive a wedge between the Governor, his party and the vocal liberal minority in favor of taxpayer funded abourtion
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 7:45 pm:
===Rauner did not promise voters he would advocate for taxpayer funded abortion no matter how you try to spin it.===
Rauner’s questionnaire refutes Diana and Bruce, LOL!
The RaunerS hypocrisy will be highlighted by Personal PAC.
===They may or may not have but everyone is overlooking the bill is a political calculation by democrats designed to drive a wedge between the Governor, his party and the vocal liberal minority in favor of taxpayer funded abourtion.===
Welp, Diana and Bruce can’t say Bruce doesn’t have a social agenda. Bruce does, with an Ounce of Deception.
Right? Exactly Right.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 8:03 pm:
Pick a name, please.
Thank you.
- blue dog dem - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 8:38 pm:
Looks like Dems Phelpss and costello listened to the women in their districts. A rate trait in this day and age when a Dem breaks from Madigan. Whatever your views on abortion , bravo for these two. Did I put a plug in for Costello for gov yet this week?
- @misterjayem - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 9:36 pm:
‘Mr Rauner’s answers were not directed to voters but to Mr Cosgrove’s organization through the questionnaire that is “kept private”’
If a billionaire tells a lie in the woods, but Lucky Pierre doesn’t hear it, does it make a sound?
– MrJM
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 25, 17 @ 9:53 pm:
MJM you are talking about JB Pritzker right?
He is the only billionaire in the race for Governor