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Reaping what you sow

Friday, Jun 16, 2017

* As we’ve already discussed a bit, the Illinois Policy Institute is promoting Facebook posts that bash the GOP’s budget proposal. Here’s the first one

Illinois Republicans introduced a budget plan that hits Illinoisans in fiscal year 2018 with the same $5 billion-plus tax hike from the “grand bargain” that failed in May.
That plan starts with a 33% income tax increase, and includes questionable new taxes on services such as Netflix, dry-cleaning services and more.

* A lot of their commenters thought they’d either made a mistake or were deliberately spreading “fake news”

No no… It’s the democrats that want the 4.5 billion tax increase….. Rauner wants a 4 year property tax freeze…. The Dems …. Won’t budge!!!! Fake news!!!

This is fakenews…. Rauner has stated he will veto this

The only thing Rauner has said about this is that he is calling a special session to start Jun 22 and not end until June 30. Why is this site full of bait and listen? Cite your sources.

I’ve been following this site for far too long. There are multiple admins with varying opinions. For the most part, they are FOR Madigan and the members are 75% against him. If whoever is answering to this post on behalf of Illinois Policy could cite their sources when they say Rauner is behind this, I’ll believe them. Until then…#FAKENEWS. Every other source states nothing close…. Only that Rauner wants to “round ‘em up” and get the legislators working again toward a balanced and sane budget. He has always said he’d veto overtaxation. And there isn’t a single story or statement to back this post!!!! I call BS and #FAKENEWS until then.

Illinois Policy is lieing. This is bait.

FAKE NEWS…..ITS THE DEMOCRATS WANTING THIS

I think you have Republicans and democrats mixed up

I would need to hear Rauner say he supports this before I even began to believe it.

Sorry!!!! FAKE NEWS…DEMOCRAT, REPEAT, DEMOCRAT PLAN, DEMOCRAT BUDGET!!!

It is the domocraps not Republicans this site is full of it

Liar

fake news.

Fake news. It’s the democrats that are bleeding we the people.

This site has to get the facts right.Your as bad as fake news

* But then during a subsequent post that asked folks to call the governor’s office, the reality started to sink in amongst the faithful

Call made. Message left. That message was this. “We are Republicans. We vote Republican. If you (Governor Rauner) sign this proposed tax hike into law, we will campaign against you”.

Reject any tan increase as it’s Chicagos problem not ours!

Reject it no more taxes thank you period or I will vote independent for gov

How much of this tax increase is going to bail out the CPS? The state taxpayers should not have to pay Chicago’s bills.

Just made the call - the woman who answered sounded less than thrilled to take another call on this subject. But call, call, call!!

Like he cares!! Straight up peice of [expletive deleted]!! He is no better then the rest!! He will do nothing!! All he does for us is collect a pay check!! I thought Bruce would be different but surprise surprise he is worse!! Illinois sucks they are all crooked!! I’m moving after living here for 30 years!! Illinois is going no where!! Get out while you can

Gov Rauner make campaign commercials repenting tax relieve for Illinois people, yet toys with the idea to go ahead and raise taxes?

what happened to the taxes we already sent the state ?

If the governor doesn’t know by now we we don’t want a tax increase he should not be in office

We need a budget not a tax hike you moron. Why are You still getting a check if I don’t do my job i don’t get paid so why are you moron

I was a big Rauner fan, but the Clinton bail out is terrible, if he signs a $5 billion dollar tax hike, I will be done with him.

I called. She thinks I’m a flake.

* And then the group’s latest post has gems like these

Didn’t that Joker say that the Democrats increase was bad??? More proof Republicans and Democrats don’t give a crap about us. Wakey wakey people.

You have to wonder what all those thieves in Illinois Government think they are going to live on when they are the only ones left to pay the tax burden?

if Rauner sign’s,he’s capitchulated..

They all work together and then afterwards they play baseball, well, I do not think there playing baseball lately

Illinois votes crooks in all the time they are all idiots

Why are Republicans attacking Illinois families with this massive tax increase?

They screw up, mismanage, are completely incompetence and we have to pay.

Rauner is not a Republican, not sure why he ran that ticket, he’s been useless, he’s done no campaign against the machine, no special election, nothing, he’s a puppet enriching himself for his business

Another Governor that thinks putting a bandaide on the problems that will never help anyone.

Waiting on elections won’t help. The citizens have to tear it down and start over. Flee or fight. But we are happy to be fleeced instead it seems.

* But there were still plenty of dead-enders in those above posts. For instance…

Get rid of Madigan and his rules committee!

Why don’t you ALL call Mike Madigan, he is at fault. He refuses to work with Rauner. Madigan controls everything, just because Rauner is Republican he won’t meet with him to discuss the budget.

Good luck Madigan will never let this happen

Does this include a term limit on Madigan if so the tax hike is worth it!

- Posted by Rich Miller        

67 Comments
  1. - Dee Lay - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:00 am:

    If the spelling and grammar in these posts are any indication of the quality of education in the state of Illinois, then we have been under funding education for far too long.


  2. - PJ - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:00 am:

    It’s always refreshing to hear from such a well-informed citizenry.

    This stuff makes me want to go live as a hermit in Nova Scotia.


  3. - winners and losers - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:03 am:

    If you start the fire in a circle all around you, you are likely to get burned.


  4. - Amalia - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:04 am:

    The Drudge report has at left near the top that Illinois may be the first state to go bankrupt. Two nationwide lotto services are abandoning us at the end of the month. to all involved, including purveyors of the above snark and endless bickering, get it together.


  5. - Sideline watcher - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:05 am:

    It’s not surprising at all. They are repeating the IPI’s stances. They’ve been spoonfed this junk for years. We have intentionally dumbed down the electorate. Its compounded by the fact that now you can stay in your own bubble and never be confronted with facts that might cause you to rethink.


  6. - Joe M - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:06 am:

    All the more reason for the dems to sit back and wait for the GOP to introduce a tax hike bill - to go along with all the other budget bills the GOP introduced this week. Ranuer and the GOP need a tax hike to make the state work, just as much as the dems do.


  7. - Gruntled University Employee - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    These folks are hopping mad and I don’t blame them, they feel like they’ve been betrayed. But still, as mad as they are now they will never support a Democratic candidate over Rauner, they may very well stay home on election day but most will never vote for a Democrat.


  8. - sonny chiss - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    That’s the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Funny and sad, they’ve been reading the wrong blog.


  9. - Real - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:08 am:

    I’m sorry but the admins of IPI have never at any point been for Madigan. They are Rauner lapdogs.


  10. - JPC - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:09 am:

    W and L nails it.

    Sadly, we’re all going to burn.


  11. - Honeybear - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:10 am:

    Perfidy has consequences


  12. - Pelonski - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:11 am:

    The sad thing is that these types are now the core of the Republican party. I, and all the other thinking Republicans I knew have left the party and become independents. The core is now made up of individuals who can’t think for themselves. Their views on issues are based on what they hear from Limbaugh, Hannity, and the like who thrive on government dysfunction.


  13. - Hamlet's Ghost - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:11 am:

    Madigan and Cullerton should sit on their hands until the tax increase bill is filed in the IL House with Jim Durkin and Jeanne Ives as lead co-sponsors followed by 34 additional GOP mushrooms jumping on as co-sponsors.

    Then 36 Dems join in for a structured roll call.


  14. - Evanstonian - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    This is why I simply don’t believe IPI is speaking for Rauner on this one. The last thing in the world Rauner wants is have negative ads targeting his base telling them he supports tax increases. If the goal was to kill the tax hike the IPI would have targeted legislators.

    No, this is clearly IPI firing a warning shot at Rauner. But, hey, to the posts title, you reap what you sow…


  15. - Ole' Nelson - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    I thought you couldn’t get any more crazy than the Trib comments. I was wrong.


  16. - Gruntled University Employee - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    I’ve expressed this to Rich privately but I want to state it publicly as well. Reading the comments on the IPI FB page reaffirms my appreciation for Rich’s refereeing of this blog, even when he censors me.


  17. - Three-Finger Brown - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:13 am:

    Let’s see:
    Randomly capitalized words? Check
    Botching “your” / “you’re” Check
    Ellipses with more than 3 dots? Check
    Random insertion of “We the people”? Check

    Classic Trump Ian pentameter. Courting the angry rabble is always a great strategy, till it ain’t.


  18. - 47th Ward - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:14 am:

    IPI: “The peasants are revolting Governor!”

    Rauner: “They sure are.”


  19. - JPC - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:17 am:

    From what I can gather from twitter conversations with actual representatives, few of them seem to appreciate (or will publicly admit) the revenue increase at the core of Rauner’s budget.


  20. - Anon221 - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:20 am:

    Maybe, just maybe, this is what Raunet wants. If his “base” is up in arms about a tax increase, doesn’t that give him cover TO veto it even IF the budget package ends up with bipartisan votes? Just think about that for a minute. Not too unlike the school vote where he drive over the ILGOP a couple of years ago. He doesn’t donate to IPI for nuthin’.


  21. - Anonymous - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:21 am:

    Ooooo, “domocraps”. That’s the kind of biting, nuanced debate I would expect in an IPI Facebook post.


  22. - lake county democrat - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:26 am:

    Though it’s not immediately relevant, the dynamic behind these comments is a large part of the impasse: even if taxes are raised, the Democrats are seen as the ones pushing it and the Republicans as the ones doing their best to limit it. By refusing to raise the issue of progressive taxation, the Democrats have exposed themself to a taxpayer revolt. Maybe it comes with the income tax hike. Maybe it comes after one-too-many tax hikes or fees hit Chicago/Cook County and the solid blue electorate turns light blue or even purple.


  23. - PJ - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:27 am:

    Here’s the really cool part - we now have literally no choice but for several (at minimum) Republicans to sign on to a tax hike or the state implodes.

    They have two options: one is to try and explain to these people that they’ve been deeply misinformed, and that this is the only option. We’ll call that the Rep. Andersson approach. Two is to keep playing the pandering flute while Rome burns because keeping their job and saving that extra 1% or so on their taxes is more important to them than schools opening. We’ll call that the Rep. Ives approach.


  24. - Highland IL - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:30 am:

    My representatives in Springfield, Meier & McCarter, haven’t shared this IPI “news”. They usually are good for a repost.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:40 am:

    This is actually the push back against vertical integration; people responding to your counter-narrative.

    You can’t use your vertical integration, left-handedly, and promote and remind your bought caucuses what can happen to them by showing the ginned-up “pressure” you are putting on yourself for something you have no intention on doing, “today”, signing a tax increase.

    It’s too smart by half.

    The phony outrage, from an organization Rauner and his allies fund, towards Rauner isn’t something that can be dialed up and down with people. You can’t have your flank covered and then do what needs to be done, and have all angles covered to get 50% + 1 on an action you want framed as bad to them, but ok to others, and have both sides “with you”

    The mental gymnastics here, to figure out how thus all helps with a base and not alienate that same base later… people remember things.


  26. - Nick Name - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:44 am:

    @11:08 a.m.: “They are Rauner employees.”

    Fixed it for you.


  27. - Cubs in '16 - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:49 am:

    I have never read or followed any of IPI’s sites/pages. I’m stunned by the lack of awareness and honest, civil discourse. Just wow!


  28. - RNUG - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:54 am:

    I’m now fully convinced Rauner has decided his ONLY play is to try to FORCE a state default, so ALEC and the rest of the alt-right can try to get a state bankruptcy bill through the US Congress.


  29. - Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 11:59 am:

    ===civil discourse===

    You don’t know the half of it. There were a lot worse comments. Even a couple of people talking about assassination. It’s a horrible place over there.


  30. - Mama - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:00 pm:

    “I’m now fully convinced Rauner has decided his ONLY play is to try to FORCE a state default”

    RNUG, you are right on the money. I believe Rauner thinks if the state defaults, the state won’t have to pay pensions anymore. Isn’t that how businesses got out of paying their worker’s a pension?


  31. - Liberty - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:01 pm:

    Idiots exist on both sides… the web magnifies it…


  32. - PublicServant - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:01 pm:

    Governor, IPI says you’re supporting a 5 billion dollar, 33% tax hike on Illinois taypayers. Is that true?


  33. - Anonymous - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:02 pm:

    These types of rants have been around since the birth of this country. At the tavern, around the wood stove, diners.. but now they are on vast display unfiltered via Twitter, blogs etc..
    Stupidity, misinformation, choleric passion has been given the same ‘voice’ as reasoned opinions. A Grave New World.


  34. - dude - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:07 pm:

    —I’m now fully convinced Rauner has decided his ONLY play is to try to FORCE a state default, so ALEC and the rest of the alt-right can try to get a state bankruptcy bill through the US Congress.—
    RNUG is always on target. This is a bulls-eye x 1000
    Ka-Boom


  35. - RNUG - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:10 pm:

    Here’s how I see it playing out:

    a) if the GA passed his bills mostly intact, Rauner signs the budget bills

    b) Rauner vetos the revenue bill

    c) part way through the year, Rauner starts the State defaulting on payments

    d) Rauner then tells the Federal court system the State can’t pay everything that is ordered and the only solution is the US Congress granting the State bankruptcy status.

    I don’t see the courts buying it, but that’s what I see as the attempted end game.


  36. - Aldyth - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:15 pm:

    Nothing I can say would be adequate to just how disheartening it is to read this stuff and know that there are actual people out there who are thinking it.


  37. - Morty - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:19 pm:

    Obi Wan -”A wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

    Rich- “You don’t know the half of it. There were a lot worse comments. Even a couple of people talking about assassination. It’s a horrible place over there”

    That’s comforting considering the events of the other day…/s


  38. - Lawsuit - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:23 pm:

    The Liberty Justice Center — friends of IPI - threatened to sue over SB 9 https://capitolfax.com/2017/05/28/group-threatens-suit-over-senate-tax-hike/


  39. - Morty - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:26 pm:

    Rich- “You don’t know the half of it. There were a lot worse comments. Even a couple of people talking about assassination. It’s a horrible place over there”

    Sad when Rich sounds like he’s talking about Mos Eisley.

    After the events of a few days ago you would hope people would tone down that kind of (assassinations) talk. I guess not


  40. - not again - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:26 pm:

    I sometimes read the comments to get a different perspective, and I usually walk away in need of a stiff drink. It boggles my mind there are so many lunatics out there. I also find myself writing checks to charities just to shake off the crazy.


  41. - Rauners Carhart Costume - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 12:29 pm:

    The book - Death of Expertise - is a perfect description of these comments.

    These dopes think that IL can solve its economic woes by cutting spending and revenue.

    When that doesn’t happen, they blame the politicians - THAT THEY PUT THERE.

    Honest question: How many of the people in those comments know the difference between “debt” and “deficit”?

    We can thank Grover Norquist and his ilk for not just IL’s problems but the country. His stupid tax pledge has made it political suicide to even discuss a revenue increase.

    Republican’s steadfast resistance to tax increases, as economic inequality has ballooned and wage growth has stalled over decades, has put us in the situation that we are in now.


  42. - lake county democrat - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:11 pm:

    Rauners Carhart Costume: You know what the author of that book would suggest for Illinois though…

    Actually Illinois (unlike some states) could solve a lot of economic woes by cutting spending - look at the studies showing how much government work can be automated. And the insane number of governmental units in Illinois. I’d rather raise taxes too and spend it on social programs and infrastructure, remember that our income taxes are *flat* — when we raise them, there is REGRESSIVE effect (because even though the raise is flat, at the $60,000 median family income level, far more vital things are cut from the budget than from a family making $500,000).

    The budget battle is not just the 1% vs. the 99%. It’s also the 10%, state government employees, and the poor vs. the middle class (admittedly oversimplified, but it’s the latter that makes this so complicated).


  43. - Morty - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:17 pm:

    IPI has linked to this site. I imagine there will be a lot of annoymous posters today

    I can’t help but feel a little sense of schadenfruende as I read the comments…IPI, the snake oil salesmen that they are, have fed them tales of illusions, magic beans, and pixie dust…anyone who tried to point out the reality of the situation- that revenue via a tax increase was ALWAYS going to happen were shouted down and denounced.

    Now the Raunerites have the equivilent of a room full of 5 years with their fingers in their ears shouting “La la la, I can’t hear you!”


  44. - Signal and Noise - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:19 pm:

    It’s the Domocraps!!!

    This is the funniest thing I’ve read in months.


  45. - Hamlet's Ghost - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:22 pm:

    @RNUG

    Regarding state bankruptcy - assuming the US Congress amends the law to allow it, would a voluntary filing approved by the General Assembly violate the IL Constitution’s protections of pension obligations?

    In other words, would the ILGA (or Governor) have authority under the IL Constitution to authorize a bankruptcy filing if the result will be an impairment of a constitutionally protected pension?


  46. - Johnnie F. - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:23 pm:

    A number of years ago there was a liberal talk radio host in Chicago who frequently describe these callers to his show as “brainstems”. I think of that often when I read these types of internet comment sections. So glad for Rich’s site!


  47. - Daniel Plainview - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:25 pm:

    At least they’re finally recognizing IPI as fake news.


  48. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:35 pm:

    If IPI is upset Rich is highlighting all the mouth-breathers that visit their page and then comment as they do, they could just delete those comments.

    “We represent the people, just don’t expose what those people say?”

    Is that the response IPI is saying?


  49. - Me Again - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:41 pm:

    My favorite quote was:

    “Legalize and tax the hell out of marijuana you jack-wagons!!!”


  50. - My button is broke... - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:44 pm:

    I can’t wait to see IPI’s cartoon about the tax hike and the Governor. I usually disagree with them, but those cartoons are great.


  51. - RNUG - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 1:49 pm:

    - Hamlet’s Ghost - @ 1:22 pm:

    Generally, federal law overrides, but usually there isn’t a specific State Constitutional Clause guaranteeing payment. It would raise some interesting legal points.

    As I’ve pointed out before, the Feds usually take a hands off approach to States dealing with direct State employees. I’ve also noted that in various government bankruptcy cases (Detroit, Stockton, Puerto Rico so far, to name 3 high profile ones), the Federal courts usually / mostly protected the state pensioners and employees, primarily because government pension systems are not covered / protected by ERISA, the PBGC, and often did not participate in Social Security. Those former government employees have no safety net at all.

    Bottom line: your guess is as good as mine. All we can do is look at past actions.


  52. - Hamlet's Ghost - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 2:01 pm:

    @RNUG

    My guess is that two things need to happen for IL to discharge pension obligations in a federal bankruptcy proceeding:

    1. The US Congress creates the option - and -
    2. The IL Constitution is amended to allow state officials to choose that option.

    IMHO & FWIW


  53. - Cheswick - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 2:11 pm:

    Even if congress changes law, I don’t see a BR judge letting Illinois off the hook w/out increasing taxes, selling assets sufficient to discharge any debt.


  54. - Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 2:15 pm:

    ===Even if congress changes law===

    Nobody, including anyone from the Illinois delegation, has asked Congress to do this.

    Until they do, this topic is for thumbsuckers and people who believe pensioners should get the shaft.

    Move along.


  55. - Grandson of Man - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 2:32 pm:

    >> A number of years ago there was a liberal talk radio host in Chicago who frequently describe these callers to his show as “brainstems”.


  56. - Grandson of Man - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 2:36 pm:

    Sorry, something went wrong with my post and it got cut off.

    The Chicago radio talk show host who called people brain stems was Jay Marvin. He said he moved to Colorado and did radio there. He said he stopped calling people brain stems after the Columbine massacre.


  57. - Skeptic - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:04 pm:

    RNUG: re: Your 12:10pm
    Right away I can see the court saying essentially what the ILSC said to Quinn with the “police powers” argument: “Did you have a chance to raise revenue? Yes? And you vetoed it? Tough doughnuts, this is a crisis of your own making, pay up.”


  58. - dbk - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:07 pm:

    Excellent. As a new reader trying to catch up with the morass of IL politics, this site is proving invaluable, and I’m recommending it in blog comments and to friends - the situation is a lot more complicated than you are led to believe by national coverage, and the nuances come through in this site’s extensive coverage/excerpting.

    Re: IPI’s FB comments section, after the election I started reading Senator Durbin’s FB comments, and continue to peruse them a couple times a week. There are many, many, many commenters who think (a) Durbin represents only Chicago, (b) Durbin controls Illinois politics, including the budget crisis, (c) Durbin has never introduced any legislation in his career in the U.S. Senate.
    And there’s much, much more.


  59. - Gandy94 - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:17 pm:

    I read this comments and I see the words “mouth breather” or “idiot”, and it makes me cringe. This is what you think of the people who vote for you?

    I see people on here talking about hiring freezes, pay increases being stopped, but so what? I make 80,000 dollars a year, and I support a family of 4 comfortably. Most of you folks make more than that, and you demand a raise? For what? What have you, all of you, done in the past 2 years to deserve such a raise? Our state is on the verge of bankruptcy, people are leaving by the MILLIONS per year, major businesses are closing their doors, schools are not funded, roads are riddled with pot holes, condemned buildings all over the state, people unemployed, families living in ghettos. What exactly do you think you deserve a raise for? Do you know what would happen to my place of work if we ran it into the ground as you (Democrats AND Republicans alike) have done to this state? We would have to close our doors. You get what you earn in this life, and you’re not entitled to anything. You want raises? Get to work, and give the people who vote for you results.

    If any of you would be willing to email me and have a true and honest discussion about it, please do. I can be reached at gandenberger9491@gmail.com.


  60. - Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:36 pm:

    ===people are leaving by the MILLIONS per year===

    Looks like one person heeded the call.


  61. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:38 pm:

    ===Most of you folks make more than that, and you demand a raise?===

    Where is your data showing “most” make more…

    Thanks.


  62. - titan - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 3:59 pm:

    ===Most of you folks make more than that, and you demand a raise?===

    Who is talking about a raise? The talk is about the necessity of a tax increase, not anyone getting a raise (so as to pay the bills and debts of the state). The legislators don’t just pocket all the taxes as salary.


  63. - A mouth breather - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 4:03 pm:

    Thanks for the insults. This “mouth breather” is tired of extreme property taxes, increasing income taxes, poor economic growth, bad roads, bad laws, and Chicagoans looking down their noses at the rest of us.

    My family is probably moving across state lines soon, as well, because IL can’t get it together.


  64. - Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 4:06 pm:

    ===Thanks for the insults===

    Nobody insulted you, personally, unless you posted one of those goofier comments listed above. Your comment seemed far more reasonable than the others.

    In other words, don’t be such a snowflake.


  65. - don the legend - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 4:29 pm:

    …this topic is for thumbsuckers and people who believe pensioners should get the shaft…

    Sadly there are a few regular commenters who do want pensioners to get the shaft.


  66. - Lakeview Dude - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 4:41 pm:

    Ugh. I feel like I was getting yelled at while reading that. I think I need a shower now…


  67. - Daniel Plainview - Friday, Jun 16, 17 @ 5:09 pm:

    - Chicagoans looking down their noses at the rest of us. -

    I’m from west central Illinois and spent 29 years there, and I’ve lived in Chicago for 4 years and have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.


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* Chicago officially submits bid for Amazon's 2nd headquarters
* New University of Illinois medical school to grant full scholarships
* 'Johnny Appleseed' trees to mark Illinois bicentennial
* Statehouse Insider: A poor rating, but sorta good news
* John Schmidt appointed to appellate court

* Northern Trust names new CEO
* More Illinois companies kept profits offshore last year
* Walgreens is doubling its city tech operations while shrinking in Deerfield
* Roskam, Tillman laud GOP tax-cut plan
* How Amazon will spoil it for Grainger


* Man shot in the head in West Chatham
* MORRISSEY: Cubs go all retro in an embarrassing loss to the Dodgers
* Dodgers clout Cubs again 6-1 to push defending champs to brink
* Man shot in Austin
* Man cut in fight near House of Blues
* Puig playing like a kid, performing like a man for unbeatable Dodgers
* Georgia Nicols horoscopes for Oct. 18, 2017
* Dear Abby: Guy’s Vegas partying worries his girlfriend
* Boy, 15, shot in Aurora home, suspect identified
* Cubs’ Bryant: ‘Obviously, some guys are tired — it’s been a long year’


* It seemed like old times at subdued Wrigley Field in Cubs' Game 3 loss to Dodgers
* Cubs running out of resources trying to solve Dodgers in NLCS
* 'Bullpenning' all the rage as playoff teams yank starters earlier and earlier
* Getting embarrassed in the NLCS? That's Cub
* NLCS Game 3 turning point: Chris Taylor's third-inning home run
* Worn-out Cubs on brink of elimination after Dodgers cruise in Game 3
* NLCS Game 3: Dodgers 6, Cubs 1
* 'The Daily Show' rats us out on second night in Chicago
* Cubs face must-win NLCS Game 4 after 6-1 loss to Dodgers
* Twelve days of silence, then a swipe at Obama: How Trump handled four dead soldiers


» Illinois Bond Sale To Help Pay $16bn Debts
» Mayor To Propose Higher Prices For Ridesharing, Big Concerts
» WBEZ Investigation: CPS Secretly Overhauled Special Education At Students’ Expense
» How's The Illinois Economy? For Rauner Administration, Depends On The Audience
» Online Locator Tool Aims to Make Recycling Easier
» State Week: Prison Assaults, Pawar's Exit
» Lawmakers Urged To Override Life Insurance Veto
» Ameya Pawar Ends Campaign for Governor
» Union Says Prison Inmate Assaults On Guards Up 51%
» Union Says Attacks On Prison Guards Are Up


* Joe McMenamin: Aldermen and big money
* E.J. Dionne: Reformers: Be ready when your time comes
* Byron York: What's behind Trump's new executive actions
* Catherine Rampell: Trump's tax proposal won't actually help the middle class. Here's what would.
* Michael Gerson: The religious right has become a tribe of sycophants
* Our View: Don’t need to spend a bundle for bicentennial to have meaning
* Illinois borrows $1.5B at reduced interest to pay down debt
* Rauner cuts human services, other area in state budget
* Pritzker makes list of richest Americans; Rauner releases tax returns
* Pritzker makes list of richest Americans; Gov. Rauner doesn't


* Debra A. Freeman
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* John 'Jack' A. Eastman
* Joe S. James
* Xandra L. Gibson
* Karen Kidd Prichard
* Mary Louise Falkenbury
* Dr. Vernold Karl Feiste
* Police Beat
* More changes are coming to O’Fallon. Here’s how one area transformed over the years.


* Cubs bats stay quiet, Dodgers lead NLCS 3-0
* Constable: It's getting late for Cubs and fans
* Cubs playoff ticket prices the lowest in 3 years
* Dodgers close in on World Series with 6-1 win over Cubs
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* Will Chgo mystery bid entice Amazon?
* “The Driver’s Side” – News From The Motorist’s Perspective
* Sheridan Park Student Awarded Prestigious STEM Scholarship
* Red Line Assailant Sought By Police
* Noah Baumbach’s The Meyerowitz Stories makes music out of humor and pain
* Palatine para-professionals aren’t worth an 11 cent raise but they are too essential to allow them to strike.
* Illinois teacher retirees: What the hell is Walgreen’s up to?
* Get Down, Boogie-Oogie-Oogie, At Fat Cat's 70s Night
* Out & About Uptown's Coast: Learn About The Leland Greenway And Alternative Transit
* Majestic Men's Store 2.0


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* US Venmo users can now use it to pay at web stores
* Huawei Mate 10’s early battery problems with Google Play Services quashed
* No, the Pixel Buds aren’t just wireless earbuds with some plastic cable connecting them
* Microsoft Surface Book 2 launch, ZTE Axon M & more – Pocketnow Daily
* Apple Watch app HeartRate logged abnormal rates, may have saved a life
* Xiaomi aims to follow Huawei’s footsteps and go for 90 million shipments in 2017
* Facebook Live Now Offers Built-In Screen Sharing Feature

* Adolfo 'grew up,' hit his stride in 2017
* The top 11 White Sox winners of 2017
* Mid-October White Sox fall ball update
* Inbox: Has White Sox Draft strategy evolved?
* Podcast: 2017 White Sox Outfielders Review
* Sox Century: Oct. 15, 1917
* Sporcle Saturday: White Sox Postseason Home Runs


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