Asked if Trump’s Charlottesville comments hurt the GOP’s chances next year, Rauner says he’s concerned bc they hurt America
And this was the right and proper thing to say.
Shame he couldn’t bring himself to say it sooner.
– MrJM
- Blue dog dem - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:26 pm:
My final word on this
I promise. Rauner denounced racism. Old Blue prayed for the idiots that they could let God into their life and accept everyone as an equal. I guess time will tell which method is more effective.
- Piece of Work - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:27 pm:
What is wrong with today’s media?? Rauner finally talks about Trump. Who cares? Fix the problems in Illinois.
Why is this like pulling teeth? I wonder what Rauner is like when eating out.
“Sir, would you like soup or salad with your meal?”
“You see, dinner is broken. And Madigans been breaking it for years. My turnaround agenda, supported by many waiters in this restaurant, will fix dinner.”
I give him credit for finally answering this in a clear and unequivocal manner. He needs to get a lot better at that regardless of the topic. Endless spinning only turns him into a caricature and makes things much worse. The press seems to finally realize this weakness. It’s up to Rauner to do something about it.
The mere fact that this had to be said, and the amount of time it took him to say it, is a sad statement about the misguided kowtowing to racists some believe is a “base”. Some in the GOP stopped ostracizing groups that deserve to be, and its led to this.
Denouncing Trump for his words yesterday should be so common that it isn’t a story.
On a positive note Abe’s statues should be safe as they represent the a man whose ideals every American should strive for…
If only America would have been so upset when Obama restarted racism in this nation. Maybe we would not be where we are today. So sad that no one’s looking for a solution. Just winning.
No question Trump has blown the opportunity he was given in November. But remarkably in today’s Wall Stree journal a poll is out showing Hillary Clinton with even higher negatives. What is sad is that had Obama not discouraged Biden from running, Biden most likely would be President. How could Obama who everyone believes was brilliant not seen was a debacle Clinton was and would turn out to have destroyed his shot as getting someone to carry out his programs. It’s a mystery and someone needs to ask him why ?
I would like for a dark money group to create an ad with these Rauner comments and play it downstate.
- hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:01 pm:
I saw on twitter that Rodney Davis made a statement on Trump today, too.
Have any other major GOP electeds spoken up?
I know some feel like this is a national issue and not a state matter, but the thing is Trump didn’t just disgrace himself or his office but his party.
Trump is making the party of Lincoln and the party of Eisenhower out to be a party by and for Confederate and Nazi sympathizers and if Republicans don’t want that to be the case they need to speak out at every level of elected office from the precinct committeeman on up.
I rarely get to say this but Rauners response about his GOP was perfection.
- Trapped in the 'burbs - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:11 pm:
Kudos to Rauner for actually answering a question which required him to take a stand. Perhaps this will start a torrent of information, plans and initiatives. Ok, I was kidding. Anything other than “Madigan” or “the system is broken” is a good start.
Yep play the black card. Race relations with out question went tragically down hill under president Obama. Not because of the color of his skin but for his approach to several incidents where he failed. That’s how we got to where we are today.
If only America would have been so upset when Obama restarted racism in this nation. Maybe we would not be where we are today. So sad that no one’s looking for a solution. Just winning.
I have to say, congratulations for writing what is the most inane thing I have ever read on CapFax.
@Whoelse “Race relations with out question went tragically down hill under president Obama. Not because of the color of his skin but for his approach to several incidents where he failed. That’s how we got to where we are today.”
Revisionist history much? Forgot about the whole “Slavery, then segregation, then redlining and now overt racism in the form of the resurgence of the KKK and the ‘good people’ of the neo-nazi party (Donald Trumps words”?
So it’s Obama’s fault that a bunch of racist nazis, that Trump built his base around, rallied to keep a statue of a traitor up, people protested that, and the nazis killed someone. All Obamas fault. Got it.
- Sugar Grove Stooge - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
Finally. Wish he’d spoken out sooner, but good on Rauner.
- Veil of Ignorance - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:35 pm:
Good for the Governor. It’s important we all stand against this growing hate movement.
Rauner says what any politician would say, and commenters here are going goo-goo over his principled stand’. No. Applauding him for what, spefically? That he’s finally come around to being a caring, strong leader. I don’t think so.
=Everyone should check the Chicago Tribune comment section… It’s very harsh there for Rauner after these Trump comments.=
Everyone should also remind themselves of the margin that Clinton held over Trump in this state. I wouldn’t necessarily take my cues from the Tribune comment section.
So, he finally said something that gets genuine positive feedback and praise. But isn’t it rather sad that expectations have fallen so low that his words aren’t simply taken as a “normal” response.
What should the governor’s take away be from this experience? Perhaps, when the message really is a silk purse, then “messaging” is is probably going to be a cake-walk. But when all your other messages are just a bunch of sows’ ears, well then no amount of “messaging” is ever going to convince people that those sows’ ears are actually more silk purses.
What the everlovin’ fudge?!? If you were a person in my life, you would be out.
everywhere I went today, people were blown apart by what Trump did yesterday. He’s an enabler at best, a racist at worst. He conflates two different wars, and lacks a basic understanding of the glory of, and preservation of, our union. He fails to differentiate between people who fight for their rights against those would would literally drive some out of our country or support the policies of those who would put certain people in camps. IE, those people should all go away and die or we will do it to you. Nope. Not on my watch. Friday night was horrifying. Blood and Soil. If you don’t think opening up against the President is right, you condone that.
- Fax Machine - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:24 pm:
Did GOP roll out any candidates for SOS, Comptroller or Treasurer today?
- @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:26 pm:
And this was the right and proper thing to say.
Shame he couldn’t bring himself to say it sooner.
– MrJM
- Blue dog dem - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:26 pm:
My final word on this
I promise. Rauner denounced racism. Old Blue prayed for the idiots that they could let God into their life and accept everyone as an equal. I guess time will tell which method is more effective.
- Piece of Work - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:27 pm:
What is wrong with today’s media?? Rauner finally talks about Trump. Who cares? Fix the problems in Illinois.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:30 pm:
===Who cares?===
It isn’t always about you.
- Lamont - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:30 pm:
Why is this like pulling teeth? I wonder what Rauner is like when eating out.
“Sir, would you like soup or salad with your meal?”
“You see, dinner is broken. And Madigans been breaking it for years. My turnaround agenda, supported by many waiters in this restaurant, will fix dinner.”
“So…soup or salad?”
“Focus, Henri, focus.”
- NIU Grad - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:31 pm:
“Did GOP roll out any candidates for SOS, Comptroller or Treasurer today?”
Someone should be keeping an eye out for potential contenders glad-handling….
- Pundent - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:38 pm:
I give him credit for finally answering this in a clear and unequivocal manner. He needs to get a lot better at that regardless of the topic. Endless spinning only turns him into a caricature and makes things much worse. The press seems to finally realize this weakness. It’s up to Rauner to do something about it.
- Sonny - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:39 pm:
So brave.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:40 pm:
You know Trump is bad news in Illinois if Rauner can summon the backbone to say his name.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:42 pm:
The mere fact that this had to be said, and the amount of time it took him to say it, is a sad statement about the misguided kowtowing to racists some believe is a “base”. Some in the GOP stopped ostracizing groups that deserve to be, and its led to this.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:42 pm:
===Asked if Trump’s Charlottesville comments hurt the GOP’s chances next year, Rauner says he’s concerned bc they hurt America===
Good on Rauner, this is actually well said.
- Mouthy - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:48 pm:
Denouncing Trump for his words yesterday should be so common that it isn’t a story.
On a positive note Abe’s statues should be safe as they represent the a man whose ideals every American should strive for…
- Triple fat - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:54 pm:
I agree with OW. It was well said.
- Whoelse - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:55 pm:
If only America would have been so upset when Obama restarted racism in this nation. Maybe we would not be where we are today. So sad that no one’s looking for a solution. Just winning.
- Sue - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:55 pm:
No question Trump has blown the opportunity he was given in November. But remarkably in today’s Wall Stree journal a poll is out showing Hillary Clinton with even higher negatives. What is sad is that had Obama not discouraged Biden from running, Biden most likely would be President. How could Obama who everyone believes was brilliant not seen was a debacle Clinton was and would turn out to have destroyed his shot as getting someone to carry out his programs. It’s a mystery and someone needs to ask him why ?
- Real - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 12:58 pm:
I would like for a dark money group to create an ad with these Rauner comments and play it downstate.
- hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:01 pm:
I saw on twitter that Rodney Davis made a statement on Trump today, too.
Have any other major GOP electeds spoken up?
I know some feel like this is a national issue and not a state matter, but the thing is Trump didn’t just disgrace himself or his office but his party.
Trump is making the party of Lincoln and the party of Eisenhower out to be a party by and for Confederate and Nazi sympathizers and if Republicans don’t want that to be the case they need to speak out at every level of elected office from the precinct committeeman on up.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:02 pm:
===f only America would have been so upset when Obama restarted racism in this nation.===
Yep. Blame the black guy for racism. Bravo. The only thing missing from your comment was a flickering tiki torch. And a white pointed hood.
- Wallinger Dickus - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:05 pm:
Hey Rich, you really need to keep Trump off your blog. He’s posing as Whoelse.
- Seats - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:05 pm:
===Asked if Trump’s Charlottesville comments hurt the GOP’s chances next year, Rauner says he’s concerned bc they hurt America===
I don’t get the chance to say to say this often but…. A+ for the governor on his response.
- Seats - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:09 pm:
I rarely get to say this but Rauners response about his GOP was perfection.
- Trapped in the 'burbs - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:11 pm:
Kudos to Rauner for actually answering a question which required him to take a stand. Perhaps this will start a torrent of information, plans and initiatives. Ok, I was kidding. Anything other than “Madigan” or “the system is broken” is a good start.
- Whoelse - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:14 pm:
Yep play the black card. Race relations with out question went tragically down hill under president Obama. Not because of the color of his skin but for his approach to several incidents where he failed. That’s how we got to where we are today.
- Real - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:14 pm:
Everyone should check the Chicago Tribune comment section… It’s very harsh there for Rauner after these Trump comments.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-republicans-fair-met-0817-20170816-story.html
- OneMan - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:16 pm:
I have to say, congratulations for writing what is the most inane thing I have ever read on CapFax.
- How Ironic - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:17 pm:
@Whoelse “Race relations with out question went tragically down hill under president Obama. Not because of the color of his skin but for his approach to several incidents where he failed. That’s how we got to where we are today.”
Revisionist history much? Forgot about the whole “Slavery, then segregation, then redlining and now overt racism in the form of the resurgence of the KKK and the ‘good people’ of the neo-nazi party (Donald Trumps words”?
Yeah…try to lay it all on Obama. Next.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:17 pm:
===That’s how we got to where we are today.===
That might be the most historically ignorant comment ever posted on this blog. It’s also vile, wrong and betrays your agenda.
Embrace it my friend. To paraphrase Dennis Green, you are who we thought you were.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:23 pm:
==That’s how we got to where we are today.==
So it’s Obama’s fault that a bunch of racist nazis, that Trump built his base around, rallied to keep a statue of a traitor up, people protested that, and the nazis killed someone. All Obamas fault. Got it.
- Sugar Grove Stooge - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
Finally. Wish he’d spoken out sooner, but good on Rauner.
- Veil of Ignorance - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:35 pm:
Good for the Governor. It’s important we all stand against this growing hate movement.
- Paddy - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:49 pm:
@Whoelse Your white sheet is showing. Oh, and kudos to Rauner, for once.
- Igotgotgotgotnotime - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:51 pm:
Now that I see which way the wind is blowing, I think I’ll fly my kite.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 2:00 pm:
Rauner says what any politician would say, and commenters here are going goo-goo over his principled stand’. No. Applauding him for what, spefically? That he’s finally come around to being a caring, strong leader. I don’t think so.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 2:14 pm:
hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 1:01 pm:
You are wrong
Trump is no more in line with them then you are
- Joe Bidenopolous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 2:31 pm:
Sue-
This isn’t about Obama, Biden or Clinton. It’s about the president’s tolerance of white supremacy groups. Nice try at a diversion though.
- Pundent - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 2:53 pm:
=Everyone should check the Chicago Tribune comment section… It’s very harsh there for Rauner after these Trump comments.=
Everyone should also remind themselves of the margin that Clinton held over Trump in this state. I wouldn’t necessarily take my cues from the Tribune comment section.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 3:41 pm:
If he really, truly feels that way, he should tweet it or post it on his own Facebook account.
- Hieronymus - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 3:47 pm:
So, he finally said something that gets genuine positive feedback and praise. But isn’t it rather sad that expectations have fallen so low that his words aren’t simply taken as a “normal” response.
- Hieronymus - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 4:02 pm:
What should the governor’s take away be from this experience? Perhaps, when the message really is a silk purse, then “messaging” is is probably going to be a cake-walk. But when all your other messages are just a bunch of sows’ ears, well then no amount of “messaging” is ever going to convince people that those sows’ ears are actually more silk purses.
- Amalia - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 4:30 pm:
Who cares? Obama restarted racism?
What the everlovin’ fudge?!? If you were a person in my life, you would be out.
everywhere I went today, people were blown apart by what Trump did yesterday. He’s an enabler at best, a racist at worst. He conflates two different wars, and lacks a basic understanding of the glory of, and preservation of, our union. He fails to differentiate between people who fight for their rights against those would would literally drive some out of our country or support the policies of those who would put certain people in camps. IE, those people should all go away and die or we will do it to you. Nope. Not on my watch. Friday night was horrifying. Blood and Soil. If you don’t think opening up against the President is right, you condone that.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Aug 17, 17 @ 9:53 am:
The GOP really is the Republi”klan” Party.