Politics, bedfellows, etc.
Tuesday, Aug 29, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Sun-Times…
Rep. Will Guzzardi, D-Chicago, also voted against the measure — saying it was “unconscionable” to vote in support of the private school program.
“As far as I’m concerned the nose is under the camel’s tent now, and I’m very concerned about the prospect of this money only growing, and more and more over the years of our public dollars being diverted away,” Guzzardi said, adding he’s worried there will be an expansion instead of a sunset in five years.
* Despite that opposition, Guzzardi and Gov. Rauner appeared to have an amiable chat after the vote…
* More…
* Guzzardi’s reply…
That laugh is often a major Rauner “tell,” so Guzzardi may not be wrong.
- A guy - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:13 am:
Will looks like he’s lobbying for “open carry”. lol
- charles in charge - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:15 am:
It would be a travesty if the Governor was to veto civil asset forfeiture reform.
- Huh? - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:18 am:
“It would be a travesty if the Governor was to veto civil asset forfeiture reform.”
Why? The government needs all the money it can steal. /s
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:20 am:
Geez, who doesn’t want to reform civil asset forfeiture, other than the local governments making out like bandits on it?
- DownstateKid - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:23 am:
In the sage words of Mr. Guzzardi: Please take the win.
- Curl of the Burl - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:23 am:
“Speaker Madigan and the Will Guzzardi man purses he controls”
- policy - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:24 am:
IPI was a big proponent of this w/ the ACLU, so it should have no problem at the gov’s desk. But IPI noted recently that Sessions may have undermined the whole thing https://www.illinoispolicy.org/trump-administration-undermines-illinois-civil-asset-forfeiture-reforms/
- Cubs in '16 - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:24 am:
“Civil asset forfeiture reform will only lead to a tax increase. For this reason, I veto the legislation.”–Fake Rauner
- Annonin' - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:25 am:
The GovJunk laugh is a tip that he had no F* clue what Will was talkin’ about…..par for the course. The funniest part of GovJunk prancin’ around House Floor was when started to towards Ds and made quick about face. We are pretty sure the viedo will show a hug for FreeCollegeIves.
- City Zen - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:27 am:
==Rep. Will Guzzardi, D-Chicago, also voted against the measure — saying it was “unconscionable” to vote in support of the private school program.==
When one genuflects at the CTU altar, there are many things one might find “unconscionable”.
- Put the fun in unfunded - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:34 am:
Hope that bill does get signed
- A State Employee Guy - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:40 am:
“As far as I’m concerned the nose is under the camel’s tent now”
Uh, what the actual what?
Real talk: does anyone know what this means w/o Googling?
- Anon - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:41 am:
Rep. Guzzardi didn’t think it was unconscionable to vote in favor of Vouchers for College. He voted for SB 6 which funded the MAP grant program with $401,341,900 in funds, much larger than the proposed $75M for K-12. With MAP Grants students can select the school of their choice and it includes public, private (like DePaul and University of Chicago), and private for-profit schools (like Devry). http://www.isac.org/students/during-college/types-of-financial-aid/grants/monetary-award-program/1718-approved-schools-for-the-map-program.html
- X-prof - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:48 am:
ASEG: It means, “The hen is in the fox house now.”
- Will Caskey - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:57 am:
As I wrote on his FB announcement about the vote, I hope he has fun explaining how it’s “unconscionable” that the teachers on the layoff list at Darwin get their jobs back.
But I expected no better from him.
- charles in charge - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:59 am:
I think the actual expression is “the camel’s nose is under the tent.”
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 11:01 am:
=== “As far as I’m concerned the nose is under the camel’s tent now” ===
If there is a change in administration, perhaps the general assembly can try to make a sow’s purse out of a silk ear.
- TinyDancer(FKASue) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 11:08 am:
=“As far as I’m concerned the nose is under the camel’s tent now”
Uh, what the actual what?=
What he meant to say is “the camel’s nose is under the tent.”
It’s a metaphor for a situation where the permitting of a small, seemingly innocuous act will open the door for larger, clearly undesirable actions.
Kinda like a “slippery slope.”
- Illinois Citizen - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 11:59 am:
@ Anon at 10:41.
There is a rather large difference between higher education and elementary/secondary education. Our state guarantees free access to one, and not the other.
Furthermore, colleges and universities aren’t “entitled” to MAP monies, and therefore, while they are part of the budgetary processes there, they are not the sole source of funds. The “vouchers” in the elementary/secondary world though — those could VERY easily transition (although not through this bill, currently) into direct re-allocations of state monies to private schools. There is a difference, and while the explanation may be subtle, the outcome is not.
- cc - Tuesday, Aug 29, 17 @ 10:20 pm:
The thin edge of the wedge.