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*** UPDATED x3 - Biss responds - DCEO upbeat *** Illinois lost 10,800 jobs last month

Thursday, Oct 19, 2017

* IDES

The Illinois Department of Employment Security (IDES) announced today that the unemployment rate remained unchanged at 5.0 percent in September and nonfarm payrolls decreased by -10,800 jobs over-the-month, based on preliminary data provided by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and released by IDES. August job growth was revised up to show a smaller decline (-2,600 jobs) than initially reported (-3,700 jobs).

September’s monthly payroll drop kept over-the-year job growth well below the national average. While Illinois job growth has had its ups and downs since the beginning of the year, the 3-month trend shows average declines of -4,200 jobs per month from July to September, while the six-month trend shows a -400 per month average job loss from April to September. Both the 3-month and the 6-month changes are worse than reported last month.

“The Illinois economy continues to sputter.” said IDES Director Jeff Mays. “Moving one step forward and one step backward, as we have done this past number of months, does little to build the positive jobs momentum that most other states have built during this recovery.”

“Illinois stands apart in terms of the assets and opportunities we have to offer business across industries,” said Illinois Department of Commerce Director Sean McCarthy. “We must continue to market our exceptional assets while implementing reforms that boost our economy and make us competitive on a national stage.”

In September, the two industry sectors with the largest gains in employment were: Financial Activities (+3,600) and Manufacturing (+1,100). The three industry sectors with the largest payroll declines were: Trade, Transportation, and Utilities (-4,200); Education and Health Services (-3,400); and Leisure and Hospitality (-3,300).

Over-the-year, nonfarm payroll employment increased by +3,700 jobs with the largest gains in these industry sectors in September: Financial Activities (+12,000); Education and Health Services (+9,600); and Professional and Business Services (+8,000). The industry sectors with the largest over-the-year declines include: Trade, Transportation and Utilities (-10,700); Government (-7,100); and Construction (-5,800). Illinois nonfarm payrolls were up +0.1 percent over-the-year in sharp contrast to the nation’s +1.2 percent over-the-year gain in September.

The state’s unemployment rate is +0.8 percentage points higher than the national unemployment rate reported for September 2017, which decreased to 4.2 percent. The Illinois unemployment rate is down -0.8 percentage points from a year ago when it was 5.8 percent. At 5.0 percent, the Illinois jobless rate is -0.7 percentage points lower than January 2017.

The number of unemployed workers dipped -0.4 percent from the prior month to 321,700, down -14.5 percent over the same month for the prior year. The labor force remained about unchanged over-the-month and declined by -1.3 percent in September over the prior year. The unemployment rate identifies those individuals who are out of work and are seeking employment. An individual who exhausts or is ineligible for benefits is still reflected in the unemployment rate if they actively seek work.

*** UPDATE 1 *** Some positive spin from DCEO Director Sean McCarthy…

“This administration is working hard to change the course of the decline in non-farm payrolls. While the numbers were down overall, we made gains in very important sectors including Financial Activities; Education and Health Services; and Professional and Business Services. This morning’s announcement of the launch of Discovery Partners Institute, coupled with our efforts to land Amazon HQ2, show our commitment to increasing opportunities that will attract and keep workers in Illinois.”

Um, Education and Health Services was down last month, although it was up for the year.

Either way, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen positive spin on an employment report from this administration.

*** UPDATE 2 *** Do you get the feeling that today’s supplemental statement from McCarthy (after all, he was already in the original press release) had something to do with not allowing this bad news to overshadow today’s big Discovery Partners Institute press conference? Here are his statements going back to April…

APRIL

“Our state has the potential to be the most competitive in the nation,” said Illinois Department of Commerce & Economic Opportunity Director Sean McCarthy. “To expand opportunities and good paying jobs, we need to make common sense reforms that will give businesses the confidence to grow and thrive in Illinois.”

MAY

“We continue to see sluggish growth in our economy due to the inability of the legislature to institute common-sense structural changes that would encourage investment in our state,” said Illinois Department of Commerce & Economic Opportunity Director Sean McCarthy. “If we create a business-friendly environment, we will see greater opportunities and more good paying jobs in every community.”

JUNE

“We hear from companies every week that are concerned by the current business climate in Illinois,” said Illinois Department of Commerce & Economic Opportunity Director Sean McCarthy. “We need to implement common sense reforms that would lead to booming job growth and expansion of opportunities across our state.”

JULY

“A competitive economy is crucial to creating jobs and opportunities for Illinoisans in every corner of the state,” said Illinois Department of Commerce Director Sean McCarthy. “We must institute true reforms that will help businesses expand and thrive here.”

AUGUST

“The modest gains in Illinois continue to lag behind the rest of the nation,” said Illinois Department of Commerce Director Sean McCarthy. “We need reforms to provide business owners relief and incentives to make our state not only competitive, but attractive to bring good jobs back to Illinois.”

SEPTEMBER

“Illinois is working tirelessly to highlight our strongest assets – our strategic location and dedicated workforce – to bring more opportunity, competition and good paying jobs to our state,” said Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity Director Sean McCarthy. “We need to couple that with lasting reforms and incentives to attract businesses and quality jobs in Illinois.”

OCTOBER

“Illinois stands apart in terms of the assets and opportunities we have to offer business across industries,” said Illinois Department of Commerce Director Sean McCarthy. “We must continue to market our exceptional assets while implementing reforms that boost our economy and make us competitive on a national stage.”

*** UPDATE 3 *** Press release…

Daniel Biss released the following statement in response to the latest Illinois Department of Employment Security report stating that Illinois lost 10,800 jobs last month.

“Bruce Rauner doesn’t seem to understand that strong businesses rely on strong communities. When you decimate social services, perpetuate a broken tax system, and refuse to pass a budget, people suffer—and businesses do too. Building a state that works for business starts with building a state that works for the rest of us, not just the millionaires and billionaires.”

- Posted by Rich Miller        

73 Comments
  1. - Blue Bayou - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:07 pm:

    Golly, wonder why education jobs plunged.

    And now Rauner is running ads touting his education record.


  2. - Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:08 pm:

    I didn’t realize Rauner had fired that many IPI hires.


  3. - Flynn's mom - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:11 pm:

    @Michelle Flaherty….one of the funniest comments I’ve read in a while.


  4. - wordslinger - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:12 pm:

    So if the number of unemployed dipped last month, and the rate stayed the same, who are the 10,800? Retirees, like teachers not returning to work at the start of the school year?


  5. - Honeybear - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:14 pm:

    Government down 7100 jobs
    Equals
    Decreased
    Services and ability
    To respond
    To anything
    Remember
    With the private sector
    You get nothing
    Unless they can make a buck
    Off of it

    No profit
    No service

    Government is not executives.
    Government is made manifest
    By workers.


  6. - Anonymous - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:16 pm:

    Part of this is due to the lack of a budget and the lack of construction projects; LOSS of nika as a opportunity to hire due to unpaid contractors etc. I would bet our lag can be mostly covered by the lack of budget. Had we had a budget and paid everyone on time we wooukd habe more work.


  7. - Pot calling kettle - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:24 pm:

    Most of the declines (year-to-year & monthly) seem to be related to cuts in government spending. Shoukldn’t the Rauner folks be publicizing this as a policy victory?


  8. - City Zen - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:26 pm:

    ==With the private sector You get nothing Unless they can make a buck Off of it==

    If they don’t make a buck, what will happen to their stock price and your pensions? Or is your entire portfolio invested in CTU?

    Without profits, how will “private sector” invest in worker training? Or hire more employees? Or pay for advertising during every NCIS iteration?


  9. - Anonymous - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:42 pm:

    Ouch, the Rauner haters are out again. Business sentiment is very mediocre here in Illinois. Change was blocked. Don’t be surprised by further declines in our state’s commerce.


  10. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:43 pm:

    The fact Illinois raised income taxes 32 percent on individuals and businesses with zero reforms is certainly reflected in these terrible numbers.

    So many said once a budget was agreed to employment would stabilize. I guess that is not he case


  11. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:46 pm:

    ===The Illinois Department of Employment Security (IDES) announced today that the unemployment rate remained unchanged at 5.0 percent in September and nonfarm payrolls decreased by -10,800 jobs over-the-month, based on preliminary data provided by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and released by IDES.===

    Bruce Rauner fails.

    Candidate Rauner tells me so.

    Unless Bruce Rauner feels Candidate Rauner was wrong to place blame on Pat Quinn…

    I’m just assessing this as Candidate Rauner assessed Pat Quinn. That should be fair game.


  12. - Ron - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:48 pm:

    The fact Illinois raised income taxes 32 percent on individuals and businesses with zero reforms is certainly reflected in these terrible numbers.

    Yep


  13. - Sue - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:49 pm:

    The Dem/ progressive folks blaming Zillinois job losses on Rauner is nuts. Rauner has made efforts to improve our employment climate and is blocked at every turn by unions and democrats. Listen to Big man J.B. who thinks the answer is a progressive tax regime. Our boarder states are doing just fine and what defines them is Republican legislatures and RTW. The picture in Illinois just get worse month by month. Any rational person who thinks amazon will land here is just plain blind


  14. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:50 pm:

    ===The fact Illinois raised income taxes===

    “In September, the two industry sectors with the largest gains in employment were: Financial Activities (+3,600) and Manufacturing (+1,100)”


  15. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:52 pm:

    OW you are right Illinois has failed to become more business friendly and the results speak for themselves but the fault is not with the Governor.

    Speaker Madigan has blocked every reform and not proposed any.

    You are also right that Pat Quinn failed to fix Illinois but you are wrong about why. Because he agreed with Speaker Madigan’s policies which Governor Rauner has been unable to change.

    Somehow you think JB Pritzker will succeed by not changing any of our policies that have decimated the private sector economy Care to explain how?


  16. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 12:54 pm:

    - Ron -

    I won’t feed you. Good luck.

    - Sue -

    RTW and those obvious policies couldn’t get 60 and 30. If Rauner can’t get his plan passed, it’s on the governor and every governor before Rauner and after Rauner to find 60 and 30.

    Thompson, Edgar and Ryan did it, even with Democrats controlling one or both Chambers.

    If you’re saying Rauner is legislatively inept I can agree with that. Governors find 60 and 30, it’s rarely “given”.


  17. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:03 pm:

    ===you are right Illinois has failed to become more business friendly and the results speak for themselves but the fault is not with the Governor.===

    Hmm…

    Rauner Campaign commenting on job numbers… http://bit.ly/2gmHDnt

    ===“Our state is still down thousands of jobs since the beginning of the year, we still have one of the worst unemployment rates in the entire country and thousands of Illinoisans have given up looking for work. On top of higher taxes, this means too many families continue to suffer under Pat Quinn. Thankfully, Pat Quinn’s time is almost up and his term in office can’t end soon enough for the working people of Illinois===

    Governors own. Rauner has numbers here with over 10,000 jobs lost.

    Bruce Rauner fails. If you’d like, we can revisit all the times the hypocrisy of Candidate Rauner and Governor Rauner meet.

    ===Somehow you think…===

    No.

    I know Bruce Rauner fails, as Candidate Rauner tells me so.


  18. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:15 pm:

    OW you finally hit the nail on the head

    It is the legislature that is inept. They have refused to pass any reforms that would help our economy


  19. - WilmetteWillard - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:15 pm:

    Lucky Pierre is spot on once again.

    And Rauner doesn’t need 60 and 30. He needs 5.

    Kennedy, Gorsurch, Roberts, Thomas and Alito.

    Rauner outflanked Madigan for the benefit of the entire US.


  20. - Plutocrat03 - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:15 pm:

    Thank goodness we don’t have to worry about those pesky Toyota jobs….


  21. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:17 pm:

    Governors don’t own nub crushing permanent income tax increases if they vetoed them. The representatives that voted for them do and many of them are retiring. See a connection?


  22. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:18 pm:

    ===If you’re saying Rauner is legislatively inept===

    Reading is fundamental - Lucky Pierre -

    Good try thou..

    ===And Rauner doesn’t need 60 and 30===

    All governors need 60 and 30, as laws and budgets and governing here in Illinois need that 60 and 30 to move forward agendas.

    Go back to the dorm room.


  23. - WilmetteWillard - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:20 pm:

    - All governors need 60 and 30, as laws and budgets and governing here in Illinois need that 60 and 30 to move forward agendas. -

    That turnaround agenda only needs 5 for the unions to meet their maker. I call them my Favorite 5.

    Be better.


  24. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:21 pm:

    I’ve said this before, but it’s still true: this, more than any gaffes over the summer, more than his base’s anger over HB40, more than all the staff turnover, is what most imperils Rauner’s re-election. He’s just not delivering for anyone.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:22 pm:

    ===Governors don’t own nub crushing permanent income tax increases if they vetoed them===

    … then Governors don’t own any program or successes that are brought about by budgets that fund then… but the governor vetoed.

    “Rauner vetoed that” - social services finally getting paid, higher education funding, state parks staying open.

    Vetoes. You said it, Rauner owns his vetoes.

    === See a connection?===

    Yep. Rauner purposely hurt social services, higher education, his own agencies. I see the connection.

    Exactly like Rauner owning over 10,000 jobs disappearing in Illinois.


  26. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:25 pm:

    ===That turnaround agenda only needs 5 for the unions to meet their maker===

    Really? Since I have no idea what Janus will do after a ruling, I’ll let you eat those brownies on the floor in the dorm room.

    Hmm… “Be better”… Who else told me those words… I should check…


  27. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:26 pm:

    ==Rauner has made efforts to improve our employment climate==

    And those efforts failed. Look, we’re losing jobs. Says so right in the title of the post. Rauner tried and failed to do something, and he absolutely needs to be held accountable for that failure.


  28. - WilmetteWillard - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:28 pm:

    -Really? Since I have no idea what Janus will do after a ruling, I’ll let you eat those brownies on the floor in the dorm room.-

    That’s why you didn’t go to law school. Should have spent a couple more years in those dorms. Ciao bella


  29. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:28 pm:

    ==That turnaround agenda only needs 5 for the unions to meet their maker.==

    At least we’re finally admitting that Rauner’s goal is to destroy unions.


  30. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:40 pm:

    ===That’s why you didn’t go to law school===

    Law school teaches seeing into the future and how rulings will impact positively or negatively on society?

    Huh. That’s a new one on me, but bully on you. Usually people complain about too many lawyers and so many people in law school, but, if law school teaches seeing the future of things, why are there so many 900 numbers with mystics, lawyers could do that just as easy.

    ===Should have spent a couple more years in those dorms===

    Show me someone who went to college and I’ll show you a vast majority that would like to go back for any number of reasons.


  31. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:46 pm:

    ==Governors don’t own nub crushing permanent income tax increases if they vetoed them.==

    They own the conditions on the ground when they run for reelection. Did the legislature pass a bad law? OK, why didn’t the Govenor stop it? Did the legislature fail to pass a good law? OK, why didn’t he convince them to pass it?

    You can wail about how unfair that is, but it’s how everyone, including Bruce Rauner, conceptualizes the office. It’s the rubric he used to conclude that Quinn didn’t deserve re-election. It’s simply the operative standard.


  32. - lake county democrat - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:46 pm:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_legal_studies


  33. - WilmetteWillard - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:50 pm:

    Hey LCD,

    In the words of President Barack Obama: Elections Matter, Elections have consequences, I won. Go out there and win an election.


  34. - Downstate - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:51 pm:

    We’ve raised the income taxes in the state. We’ve raised the property taxes, on the local level, particularly in Chicago. But I don’t sense that the citizens feel any more optimistic. The business community certainly doesn’t.

    We lost the Toyota plant. Would a progressive tax rate have lured them in? What about higher property taxes? Of course not. Both will only make us less competitive, and send a strong message to the job creators that they are no longer appreciated or desired in this state.


  35. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:56 pm:

    ==Would a progressive tax rate have lured them in?==

    The lack of one sure ain’t doing the trick.


  36. - Joe M - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 1:58 pm:

    Moody’s and the other bond rating agencies regularly evaluate the Illinois economy - and outline what steps Illinois must take to improve its dire bond ratings. I don’t recall Moddy’s saying that Illinois did not need to raise the state tax - or that Illinois needed rtw - or term limits or any of the other things Rauner says we must have to grow our economy.


  37. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:02 pm:

    ==send a strong message to the job creators that they are no longer appreciated or desired in this state.==

    What message does stiffing them on $15 billion worth of bills send?


  38. - Anonymous - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:05 pm:

    I recently had conversations with 4 people who work in my industry. 2 of them moved to Wisconsin from the Chicago suburbs, 1 to Nevada and another to Florida. They have businesses that allow them to operate from pretty much where they wish. All have very good earnings and they have taken their $ out of the state of IL.

    If you don’t have compelling reasons to stay in Illinois, you won’t, it just sin’t worth it.


  39. - kitty - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:13 pm:

    Nonsense. The “reforms” that Mays et al don’t have the courage to spell out and elaborate in their releases are so called “right to work”, elimination of prevailing wage laws and elimination of public sector unions. There is no groundswell of support for these anti-worker measures in IL and Rauner wouldn’t have been elected had he been honest with voters regarding why he really wanted to be Gov. Rauner and his crew have not “shown their work” in terms of math associated with the alleged savings these reforms would create. If Janus is decided in favor of RTW, it will ironically remove a “race to the bottom” incentive that many states advocate, see “One battle the Confederate flag is still winning” by John Blake, CNN 7/11/2015. Rauner could have additional worker comp and maybe some unemployment insurance reforms on a bi-partisan basis if he wanted to “do the doable”. He also could have negotiated in good faith with AFSCME and had a contract with many favorable aspects for management but chose not to do so.


  40. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:14 pm:

    To the update,

    If you are running for governor of Illinois and you let Rauner even hint this is “good” after the pounding Candidate Rauner gave Quinn, even in “Primary Season”, you are actually doing it wrong.

    It’s not hard to find, Candidate Rauner berating Gov. Quinn on jobs numbers.


  41. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:17 pm:

    ==Either way, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen positive spin on an employment report from this administration.==

    Because Rauner owns the numbers now. Politically, he basically did since January 2015, but now his term is half over, and if hasn’t put any points on the board yet, that’s on him. He can’t blame the last guy anymore.


  42. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:24 pm:

    I guess - Lucky Pierre -…

    ===The fact Illinois raised income taxes 32 percent on individuals and businesses with zero reforms is certainly reflected in these terrible numbers===

    … reflect how well that tax increase worked, since you “blame” these “good” numbers, according to DCEO on Democrats.

    LOL

    Time for a “control-alt-delete” reboot - Lucky Pierre -

    To - Arsenal -

    ===Because Rauner owns the numbers now. Politically, he basically did since January 2015, but now his term is half over, and if hasn’t put any points on the board yet, that’s on him. He can’t blame the last guy anymore.===

    Funny how “governors own” becomes all too real come re-election time.

    Just last year, - Lucky Pierre - would’ve blamed Dems.

    Then again - Lucky Pierre - missed the memo today that these are good numbers, so…


  43. - Arsenal - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:32 pm:

    ==Funny how “governors own” becomes all too real come re-election time.==

    Right? His 700 budget crisis bought him a little more time to blame someone else for lousy economic news- but man, at what a cost!


  44. - Henry Francis - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:33 pm:

    Quite the update from DCEO

    “We [this administration] made gains in very important sectors . . ”

    So if the administration is claiming responsibility for the gains in certain sectors, shouldn’t they also claim responsibility for the losses in the others?

    And as for other successes, all he can point to in an “announcement” on DPI and “efforts” to land Amazon.


  45. - Team Warwick - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:49 pm:

    Pass me the gummie bears.
    Do they come in Chicago Bears colors?


  46. - Baloneymous - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:55 pm:

    Just keep saying Reforms and Madigan. That’s the winning ticket.


  47. - @MisterJayEm - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:57 pm:

    “Rauner has made efforts to improve our employment climate”

    Rauner failed.

    I say it’s his fault. You say it’s someone else’s fault.

    But either way, Rauner failed.

    – MrJM


  48. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 2:58 pm:

    ===Do you get the feeling that today’s supplemental statement from McCarthy (after all, he was already in the original press release) had something to do with not allowing this bad news to overshadow today’s big Discovery Partners Institute press conference?===

    I didn’t until you equate it as you have.

    This is that traditional vertical integration within an administration that helps with the governing, allowing “successes” and using a “big picture” gumbo of positives to prop up a plan you want to also seem good too.

    We’ll see if silence by others allows all this to stand.


  49. - wordslinger - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 3:02 pm:

    It remains puzzling to me why Rauner never trotted out some actual economists to sell the alleged economic benefits of his agenda.

    U of C is chock-fulla of conservative, Nobel Prize winning economists. Why not get someone like them to sell it?

    I kid. They tried the ROI angle once and got laughed out of town, so they didn’t try it again.

    Still, wave a few hondos under the nose of a snake-oil salesman like Stephen Moore and he’ll put his name on any claim.


  50. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 3:47 pm:

    I do recall Moody’s saying Illinois must address our staggering pension crisis instead of continuing to ignore it. The Governor and the Senate got the message. The Speaker has not


  51. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 3:52 pm:

    ===I do recall Moody’s saying Illinois must address our staggering pension crisis instead of continuing to ignore it===

    I can show you where Rauner said he ignores what the credit raters say.

    Would you like me pull those up or are you going to concede your ignorance here is ignoring Rauner’s words… yet again.

    Press “control-alt-delete” - Lucky Pierre -, you’re off-message.


  52. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 4:32 pm:

    Sorry Bannerman I have slipped a few by you today.

    Wordslinger do you think the slide rule carrying academics ( including Daniel Biss ) who have never hired a person in their life, views trump the “Allleged Economic benefits” that are cited by businesses as a reason they are not expanding in Illinois and hiring more middle class workers?


  53. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 4:36 pm:

    Your ignorant ones I ignore, they’re not even shots on goal, lol

    Here’s where Rauner discusses that he doesn’t care about the bond ratings house. Start at the 2:00 mark

    http://bit.ly/2ilts6v

    ===…Don’t listen to some Wall St. firm. That’s not what matters…===

    Did you reboot yet or are you still saying these are bad employment numbers to be blamed on Dems while the Administration says these are good numbers?

    LOL


  54. - wordslinger - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 4:41 pm:

    LP, I think virtually anyone could do a better job of selling it than Rauner and you have. If you had the goods to do so.


  55. - Demoralized - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 4:54 pm:

    LP

    Are you telling us that nobody else’s opinions matter except for those of business leaders? That somehow if we’ve “never hired a person” we’re not qualified to be a part of the discussion?


  56. - Demoralized - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 4:59 pm:

    ==but the fault is not with the Governor.==

    Of course it isn’t. Nothing ever is with you. It’s all victim all the time.


  57. - Galena Guy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 5:10 pm:

    That “never hired a person” is really pretty shallow and rings of the “I served in the military and know better” argument. I hire people every day. Each time I go to the grocery store or gas station of choice, hire someone to fix my car, paint my house, do my dry cleaning etc etc , I’m hiring someone. And if the guy I “hired” wreaked havoc on the educational system, stiffed contractors on a regular basis, ran up a 15 billion dollar backlog of bills, not to mention refusing to accept a SINGLE scintilla of blame for the mess he created, you can bet he’d be out of a job lickety split. Vote accordingly.


  58. - @MisterJayEm - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 6:05 pm:

    As Governor of Illinois, Bruce Rauner is a failure.

    Everything else is noise.

    – MrJM


  59. - Blue dog dem - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 8:19 pm:

    DCEO budget. $0. Then I am happy


  60. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 10:32 pm:

    The Governor ran up a $15 Billion back log of bills all by himself?

    When was the last year Illinois had a balanced budget that fully funded everything including pensions?

    I must have missed the balanced budgets submitted by the legislature during the Rauner or Quinn administration.

    The backlog $5 billion when he was inaugurated. The legislature is a co equal branch of government that is also responsible for governing these past 2 and 3/4 years. No budgets can be passed without them.

    What you are saying is the current policies that Governor Rauner has been unable to change work just fine and should not be changed and the concerns of the business community should continue to be ignored. You cannot blame the Governor’s policies for Illinois failures, they have not been implemented.

    By your definition, the entire General Assembly should also be fired because they don’t accept a scintilla of blame for the past few years or the previous decades of dysfunction.


  61. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 10:58 pm:

    ===The Governor ran up a $15 Billion back log of bills all by himself===

    Rauner vetoed budgets and refused to sign budgets, allowing for the backlog.

    If you’d like, I’ll bring up Rauner campaign quotes about Quinn debt and how governors own that, according to Candidate Rauner.

    ===When was the last year Illinois had a balanced budget that fully funded everything including pensions?

    I must have missed the balanced budgets submitted by the legislature during the Rauner or Quinn administration.===

    … and yet Rauner ran up a larger debt by not having any budgets, forcing some social services to be ruined or crippled.

    Rauner did that, Ken Durkin helped keep the vetoes intact.

    ===What you are saying is the current policies that Governor Rauner has been unable to change work just fine and should not be changed and the concerns of the business community should continue to be ignored. You cannot blame the Governor’s policies for Illinois failures, they have not been implemented.===

    Bruce Rauner being a failure that he can’t things done.

    As Bret Baier made clear…

    “What would be different in a second term?”

    Rauner is failing miserably. What will be different with Rauner continuing to be governor?

    ===By your definition, the entire General Assembly should also be fired because they don’t accept a scintilla of blame for the past few years or the previous decades of dysfunction.===

    No. It’s governors own.

    As Candidate Rauner stated, “Pat Quinn failed”

    Good try, but like Rauner, you fail in your continued excuses according to Candidate Rauner and Bret Baier asked what would be different, and it seems here you say nothing, Rauner will continue to fail.

    lol


  62. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 11:11 pm:

    LOL? Why is Illinois failure to change any of the failed policies funny?


  63. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 11:15 pm:

    ===LOL? Why is Illinois failure to change any of the failed policies funny?===

    That you feel Rauner has no onus, and yet ran a whole campaign and closed with “Pat Quinn failed” at everything, all the time 24/7.

    It’s comical your continued willful ignorance.

    Bruce and Diana Rauner are purposely destroying Illinois and you just flat out can’t blame the governor for anything.

    It’s comical.


  64. - Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 11:33 pm:

    Willful ignorance is to disregard the 75% of Illinois residents who lead the nation in their distrust state government before Governor Rauner was elected.

    Even the Democratic candidates for Governor understand the anger of middle class voters except for the anointed JB Pritzker.

    Not a good time to be an establishment Democrat trying to defend their record of increasing taxes and not reforming anything.


  65. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Oct 19, 17 @ 11:43 pm:

    ===Willful ignorance is to disregard the 75% of Illinois residents who lead the nation in their distrust state government before Governor Rauner was elected===

    … and yet Rauner’s own disapproval are 63%.

    Rauner is underwater in polling, even if your willful ignorance just can’t handle that truth.

    ===Not a good time to be an establishment Democrat trying to defend their record of increasing taxes and not reforming anything===

    … unless Donald Trump is in the White House, it’s his midterm and Bruce Rauner, who is polling at 63% disapproval and recognized as the most vulnerable Republican gubernatorial incumbent in the county, who also signed an abortion bill you said couldn’t get passed or signed in California because it’s “so liberal”… Dems will take their chances.

    How you can support Bruce Rauner after signing the most liberal abortion bill that has taxpayers paying for abortions on demand after your comments about how Rauner couldn’t… and you’re worried for Dems? LOL


  66. - Lucky Pierre - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 12:03 am:

    Except that the billionaire political neophyte Democratic frontrunner who has not distanced himself from a single failed Madigan policy is shoe in


  67. - Lucky Pierre - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 12:07 am:

    Your 63% disapproval is from March. Before he vetoed the 32% tax increase with no reforms. I would take that with a grain of salt.


  68. - Rabid - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 4:41 am:

    rauner reformed our credit with nine downgrades, showcasing his venture capitalist skills


  69. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 6:49 am:

    ===Your 63% disapproval is from March. Before he vetoed the 32% tax increase with no reforms. I would take that with a grain of salt===

    Not March, July. I’ll show you that. http://bit.ly/2fLFp4A

    Good try, thou, lol

    You forgot that HB40 signature, you know, the one where a bill more liberal, according to you, couldn’t be passed it signed in California.

    You still think Rauner isn’t under water?

    As for Prizker, Diana Rauner thinks the world of JB and the Pritzkers, as they bailed out The Ounce with $5 million when Bruce squeezed The Ounce for over $7 million.

    So you worry about that neophyte, lol, if it wasn’t for the Pritzkers what would Diana do…


  70. - Demoralized - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 7:49 am:

    I don’t understand why comments don’t post sometimes. It’s frustrating as heck


  71. - Demoralized - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 7:50 am:

    LP

    I’m about to call the paramedics for you. You’ve got to be severely injured by now with as much of a victim that you are.


  72. - Lucky Pierre - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 9:40 am:

    Your posts are blocked because they are offensive and excessively rabid, probably containing gratuitous insults.

    Not because they are wrong


  73. - Jerry - Friday, Oct 20, 17 @ 10:31 am:

    Why is the governor surprised when the economic numbers are going down when he is running around the state saying it is “broken”. You can’t have it both ways. The difference is between running for election and actually governing and trying to improve things by working together. Decimating human services by cuts and then wondering why there aren’t more people employed is just naive.


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