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Rauner says National Review article a “hit piece,” won’t commit to debating “fringe” Ives

Monday, Dec 4, 2017

* From today’s event…


The NR piece is here.

* Meanwhile…


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38 Comments
  1. - Blue dog dem - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:08 pm:

    Jeanne dont debate this guy. No sense in giving him either credibility or unnecessary publicity. Hes yesterday’s news.


  2. - Norseman - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:08 pm:

    Faux Rauner, “I love hit pieces when they are directed at somebody else.”


  3. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:10 pm:

    Rauner is polling at 30% approval.

    It’s not a hit piece, it a piece explaining how awful Rauner is, and why Rauner IS the worst Republican Governor in America.


  4. - Baggs McCoy - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:14 pm:

    I called the Orville Redenbacher Company and said they may want to put in a 3rd shift. This is going to be interesting.


  5. - Real - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:14 pm:

    Jeanne dont debate this guy. No sense in giving him either credibility or unnecessary publicity. Hes yesterday’s news.
    ======

    Umm a debate is what she needs to bury Rauner for good.


  6. - Dome Gnome - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:18 pm:

    Ives isn’t a credible candidate, so ignoring her would be a great strategy. But, my goodness, I’d love to watch each unhinge the other in a televised debate.


  7. - Anon221 - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:18 pm:

    “…it’s not journalism, it’s a political hit piece.” Rauner. Too funny coming from a man who has helped finance so many political hit pieces and a “documentary”.


  8. - People Over Parties - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:23 pm:

    If the ILGOP has any sense they’ll reject Ives and her sanctimonious extremism. It’s a bad path to go down, and all but guarantees a loss in November.


  9. - Montrose - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:25 pm:

    I don’t think Ives can beat Rauner, but he isn’t doing himself any favors dismissing her. Make a statement welcoming her, say something nice and note where you disagree, move on. You just gave her ammo to raise money and mobilize support, and made it harder to get her supporters to come out for you in the general.


  10. - A Jack - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:45 pm:

    Does Rauner consider the National Review a Madigan controlled publication or just a fringe journal?


  11. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:47 pm:

    National Review is the most conservative publication in America and the fact they don’t like Governor Rauner is a negative in Illinois?

    They would prefer a Governor Ted Cruz or Steve King. Illinois voters disagree. I don’t think I have ever seen a week with more liberals quoting the National Review, as if they agree on any position they have ever taken. LOL!


  12. - Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:47 pm:

    Can you still call them fringe after you’ve hired them to run your administration?


  13. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:53 pm:

    ===National Review is the most conservative publication in America and the fact they don’t like Governor Rauner is a negative in Illinois?===

    It’s not that they don’t like him. National Review has a piece and cover calling Rauner the worst republican Governor in America.

    That’s real. Polling at 30% approval, Illinois thinks Rauner is worse than Trump, the President, polling at 37%

    This ain’t no badge of honor, lol

    Rauner is a coastal, ultra-liberal Democratic governor that despised Labor, wants higher education eliminated, and wants social services destroyed or closed unless they are called The Ounce.

    There is no constituency for Rauner.

    The 30% approval isn’t a base, it’s Rauner’s entirety


  14. - PublicServant - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:54 pm:

    If Ives is Fringe, he’s at least a Shag carpet.


  15. - Baloneymous - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 12:56 pm:

    Lucky— well there are lots of conservatives in Illinois, so I guess you agree with the NR’s headline, cause they probably do. Who cares if liberals or independents agree?


  16. - RNUG - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:05 pm:

    Rauner (or at least his PR team) knows he is a loose cannon when forced off script in a debate. All he knows how to do is reiterate his talking points. He’s gotten away with that do far … but a debate opponent who can think on their feet would make cole slaw out of him.


  17. - Ron - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:10 pm:

    Rauner is not a conservative, that’s why NR doesn’t like him.


  18. - A guy - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:12 pm:

    Agreed RNUG. Just not sure this opponent in the one you describe who can think on their feet. It would be a contest to see who gets unglued first.


  19. - @MisterJayEm - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:18 pm:

    “National Review is the most conservative publication in America and the fact they don’t like Governor Rauner is a negative in Illinois?”

    The fact that he is the worst Republican governor in America sure seems like a negative…

    – MrJM


  20. - anon2 - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:23 pm:

    === the most conservative publication in America ==

    National Review is to the left of The American Conservative, Human Events and various other rightwing journals, not to mention Drudge and Brietbart.


  21. - Pieroge tirebiter - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:29 pm:

    So if she is a fringe is he saying he is not going to run ads against her?


  22. - @MisterJayEm - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:35 pm:

    “So if she is a fringe is he saying he is not going to run ads against her?”

    Rauner may not — but a completely unrelated and definitely uncoordinated PAC supporting him will.

    – MrJM


  23. - VanillaMan - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:37 pm:

    Rauner is toast.
    The sooner ILGOP dumps him, the better their chances next year.


  24. - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:40 pm:

    ==Ives isn’t a credible candidate, so ignoring her would be a great strategy.==

    This is completely untrue, as is referring to her as a “fringe” candidate. I know a lot of you don’t like hearing it, but Ives’ form of conservatism (and the extreme right-wing views that she holds) IS today’s Republican party. This is no longer the party of George Bush and Mitt Romney. The Trump/Bannon/Ted Cruz republicans have all but pushed the Jeff Flake/Rauner/Charlie Dent republicans out the door. Anywhere else in the country Rauner would be the fringe candidate in a republican primary - not Ives. Illinois may still be an outlier come March, but it’d still be unwise to underestimate the level of conservatism among republican primary voters. If she raises some national money and hires good social media people, I bet this race is a whole lot closer than any of you guys think it will be.


  25. - WasAnon - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 1:58 pm:

    Love to see a debate. Ives circling Bruce, she yammering, jabbing, punching, all the while in a fierce countenance tilting toward her dazed, flat footed opponent; punching, jabbing, yelling “What’s My Name? What’s My Name”. lol


  26. - Ron - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 2:18 pm:

    Ives has 0 chance of being governor. She is an awful, cruel person.


  27. - Pieroge tirebiter - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 2:21 pm:

    And Rauner seems to have zero chance of acting like a governor.


  28. - wordslinger - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 2:26 pm:

    So who ordered the hit and why, governor? Who has that pull with the National Review?

    Serious question.


  29. - Ron - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 2:39 pm:

    Again, National Review is a conservative magazine. Rauner is not a conservative.


  30. - zatoichi - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 2:44 pm:

    That would be a great debate just to watch the eyes and smirks from each of them.


  31. - Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 3:20 pm:

    I look forward to Rauner going door to door to explain that the National Journal is a conservative publication and it’s actually a good thing for the National Journal to declare him the worst governor in America.


  32. - wordslinger - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 3:23 pm:

    –I look forward to Rauner going door to door to explain that the National Journal is a conservative publication and it’s actually a good thing for the National Journal to declare him the worst governor in America.–

    Yeah, LP had Baghdad Bob laughing with that one.


  33. - So_Ill - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 3:29 pm:

    =Rauner is not a conservative, that’s why NR doesn’t like him.=

    He’s a man without a party and an ideology. Not a winning strategy when you have no constituency and no legislative accomplishments.

    He’s a failure, plain and simple.


  34. - Ron - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 4:29 pm:

    He has failed, but that is because we have a Democratic party that cares more about public employees than the vast majority of state citizens.


  35. - Demoralized - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 4:41 pm:

    Give it a rest Ron. Contrary to your fantasy public employees aren’t the cause of all bad things. Give the attitude a rest for 5 seconds for crying out loud.


  36. - Anonymous - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 5:19 pm:

    Demoralized, your right, the state Republican party is as fault too. Edgar and Thomson being prime examples.


  37. - Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 7:37 pm:

    Ron, when Rauner goes to Southern Illinois and talks about reopening correctional facilities, who do you think he’s pandering to?


  38. - Generation X - Monday, Dec 4, 17 @ 9:52 pm:

    To those who believe Ives has no chance, I present to you the 2016 Illinois Republican Primary results. You will notice that 68% of the vote went to candidates who have stated positions on lightening rod issues opposite of Bruce Rauner.

    With Rauner’s shocking lack of accomplishments, total alienation of his base and not a single victory for his Chamber of Commerce crew. I ask who exactly is going to vote for this guy in the primary?


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