“Gay people have the same right as everyone else to a spouse of the opposite sex.”
- ste_with_a_v_en - Tuesday, Mar 13, 18 @ 9:55 pm:
“It’s a completely disordered relationship and when you have a disordered relationship you don’t ever get order out of that so I’m more than happy to take a ‘no’ vote on the issue of homosexual marriage.”
Lest we forget
–The LGBTQ community have the same rights as everyone else, and I will protect those rights.–
Based on her past record and rhetoric, I’m not sure Rep. Ives fully appreciate what that means, but she obviously knows that it’s what we should aspire to.
So good on you, Rep. Ives — that’s a marker. They are magnificent things.
Back in the day, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Judged by his actions, before and after he wrote those words, Jefferson didn’t really believe a word of it, not in a sense that would include the great majority of humanity.
But what a marker. You can’t walk it back, once you’ve revealed what you truly should aspire to.
It’s tiring to hear supposed experts make a dubious claim that a congressional race between two new candidates is relevant to a presidential race held almost two years earlier with completely different candidates.
Ron, Ives statement does not mean what it appears to mean. She most likely means “special right” to mean any law that is proposed that specifically protects LGBTQ individuals from some specific act (for example, the extension of prior anti-discrimination laws to LGBTQ based discrimination).
I take this to mean that Ives has recognized that she’s hit her ceiling in rounding up the rabid right. The statement is nuanced enough that she could always clarify later that she meant no “special” or “additional” rights.
====For too many folks here, even saying the right thing isn’t enough.
There’s being open minded and then there is letting your brain fall out of your ears. Do you actually think I’m wrong in my interpretation of what she is saying? It’s a long used trope by conservative opponents of LGBTQ rights.