Question of the day
Monday, Jun 4, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Gov. Rauner this morning before he signed the budget into law…
I would personally like to thank Speaker Madigan, and President Cullerton, Leader Brady, Leader Durkin, members of the General Assembly gathered here today and also throughout the state of Illinois. This was a great team effort. A great bipartisan effort.
* From the Rauner campaign this afternoon…
Without Gov. Rauner and Republicans at the negotiating table, Mike Madigan and Democrats would have raised taxes once again. […]
Join us to defeat JB Pritzker in November and prevent him from pushing tax hikes and out of control spending on Illinois.
* The Question: How would you rate the Rauner campaign’s framing of the budget deal? Don’t forget to explain your answer. Thanks.
- Downstate - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:29 pm:
Junk Status
- NoMoreBears - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:31 pm:
I think it’s best summed up by the Simpsons:
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That’s specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn’t work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It’s just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:34 pm:
I’d rate it purposefully confusing.
Rauner can’t have a signed budget without the 32% tax increase.
Rauner complains and says he’s fighting against tax increases.
Rauner thinks Illinoisans are rubes.
The 26% approval says we’re not rubes.
In the end, Rauner has no constituency or messaging to correct his trustworthiness.
The two messages actually explain why Bruce Rauner fails. Perfectly.
- Pieroge tirebiter - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:35 pm:
I rate it who cares. Becaus nobody is listening to him.
- btowntruthfromforgottonia - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:36 pm:
When he says he was “at the negotiating table” he meant “never came near it and they did this without me”.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:37 pm:
When he spends all of the money raised, he reveals his position on taxes: he’s for ‘em. He loves spendin’ the money, just doesn’t want to get his hands dirty raisin’ it.
Gutless, and thoroughly predictable.
Also, he thinks you’re stupid and can’t figure this out on your own. Vote accordin’ly.
- DuPage Bard - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:38 pm:
He is a failure, he signed a budget that uses the full tax increase that he vetoed.
No more new tax increases? How about your promise to get rid of the last tax increase? Did that just fade away?
- Rich Miller - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:39 pm:
People, read the question before you respond.
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:40 pm:
Weak. Rauner came into politics full of reform fury, but after three years has no reforms enacted and is meekly trying to spin out of signing a Madigan budget that has within it a Madigan tax increase. It went from Shaking up Springfield to at least there is no tax increase in the budget.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:42 pm:
===How would you rate the Rauner campaign’s framing of the budget deal? Don’t forget to explain your answer. Thanks.===
Sorry, I object to the premise of the question. You can call it “campaign framing” if you want to, but I will call it “lying.”
- Excessively Rabid - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:43 pm:
Rating: about par for the course. People who want to believe it will. The number of those is smaller than it once was.
- Norseman - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:44 pm:
It will be a minor narrative in his deluge of misinformation and falsehoods that will come out of his campaign. The counter is the clip of Mr. I’m not in charge.
- TiredOfIT - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:46 pm:
Just a a desperate plea for votes
- Jocko - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:52 pm:
==prevent him from pushing tax hikes== By “him”, Bruce is speaking about the person in the mirror.
After doing nothing for three years, the Rauner campaign is running on “it could’ve been worse”.
- We'll See - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:52 pm:
I give it a 4 on the Les Nessman scale - he knows it’s make beleive but because of his persistence we’ll play along
- A Jack - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:56 pm:
Pants on fire. No one from the Democrats have suggested raising taxes. There have been a couple of Republicans that have suggested raising gasoline taxes to pay for a capital bill.
The Democrats have said we need a progressive income tax that may or may not cause a middle class tax increase. But that is in the future since it requires a state constitutional amendment and couldn’t possibly pertain to this year’s budget process.
- Me Again - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:56 pm:
“Governor Junk” loses yet another battle and declares victory anyway.
- Henry Francis - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:58 pm:
It’s ridiculously weak. But what else does he have?
Essentially he admits that things are bad now, but they would be even worse without him. It’s that kind of cognitive dissonance that has kept his 26% so unfailingly loyal.
- Perrid - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 2:59 pm:
I’d say it was basically a lie. I don’t see the Dems trying to raise taxes again so soon, in an election year. Even ignoring the contradiction in the two statements it stinks.
- dbk - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:01 pm:
Is anybody paying much attention to Rauner campaign framing at the moment? Aren’t most people inclined to take the stance of the IL GA - i.e., “let’s go it alone and get it done”?
As framing per se, predictable and confirmatory for those inclined to vote R anyway in November.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:04 pm:
===Is anybody paying much attention to Rauner campaign framing at the moment? ===
I am, and most will when the campaign kicks in to a higher gear. So, stop resisting and answer the question. Sheesh.
- Precinct Captain - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:04 pm:
Rating: Top marks on the Dishonest Drivel scale.
- zatoichi - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:08 pm:
He walks into the cage match fuming, finger pointing, and making demands. Now he is ‘Hey, look at us working together’. A heel trying to become an effective face, but is stuck on where to take his character next and can’t work the mic for a good pop. He is trying to stay relevant, is struggling to keep the pace, and knows it.
- Retired Educator - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:19 pm:
He signed it, praised everyone involved, then began to trash them. This is typical Rauner thinking. He has nothing to run on that is positive, so he reverts to the negative. He usually laughs when he lies. He must be laughing his fool head off now. 26% is way to high for this Governor.
- Scamp640 - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:33 pm:
Using the cranial discomfort metric, his framing makes my head hurt a great deal.
- walker - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:39 pm:
Will many people believe that Democrats would have raised taxes again, and will in the future, but for Rauner’s efforts? Yes.
It’s his branding for both sides, supported by massive advertising.
Could he have a better message at this point? I cannot think of one besides Madigan/corruption.
- Matt Vernau - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:39 pm:
Rauner is playing to his base. Mr. Not in Charge hopes that his base blames all the discord on Madigan. His voters do not equate the increased debt load with a failure to govern. Darn few political types have any respect for their voters. Why should they. They vote their feelings gleaned from 30 second commercials. The air waves will be filled with mud. Rauner will feed us “Think Big” means Think Big Criminal Connections”. What if it works?
- Langhorne - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:41 pm:
I would expect nothing else.
AM–isnt it great we all worked together?
PM–Madigan–tax increase–Democrats–tax increase–Madigan
Words/deeds
- DuPage Bard - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:48 pm:
This concept of, we stopped what would have been a disaster, is the only way he can get through this budget signing issue.
The comments praising Madigan today then hitting him hours later is the only way to deflect.
Granted if JB had enough money, I jest, he could just run a 15 second short ad having a mash up of Rauner praising Madigan over and over.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:49 pm:
===run a 15 second short ad having a mash up of Rauner praising Madigan over and over===
That would be hilarious.
- Annonin' - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:56 pm:
Very poor. Admits his anti worker schemes dailed…100%
GovJunk and Durkie knew the House Gopies wre prepared to ovrride again so they pretend this was their idea. Bye Bye
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 3:59 pm:
=== ===run a 15 second short ad having a mash up of Rauner praising Madigan over and over===
That would be hilarious.===
The genius of that would be the shredding of “because Madigan” and Rauner fuming for the next 5 months.
I would’ve done an “ambush” type of signing, invite everyone to the office, signed at 4pm…
on Friday…
and then use the footage of the signature later, no real “praising” expect in the release. This Monday signing begs to get hammered.
The reason being?
Rauner is now on video, saying things he probably will regret saying… if it’s put in a mashup.
But, they wait until the weekend, on a Monday, and now all week Rauner will have to answer these questions… if an Ad does pop up that has Rauner praising Madigan and the Dems.
But, Rauner needed a press pop on this.
- BlueDogDem - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 4:32 pm:
Rating. Hypocrisy.
Seriously makes me sick to my stomach. Just goes to show how the two party system has failed us. Over and over.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 4:51 pm:
Good.
Basic politics 101 that Rauner learned the summer before his reelection loss.
- Arthur Andersen - Monday, Jun 4, 18 @ 8:35 pm:
Rate his framing? We were framed by that phony, bloated, and unbalanced budget. Is that a good answer?
- Rabid - Tuesday, Jun 5, 18 @ 3:17 am:
Framing Rauner as a force to be reckoned with, that you can’t live without. His 25% budget success rate matches his approval