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Ives makes her case for 2022

Tuesday, Nov 6, 2018

* The governor’s political body isn’t even cold yet, but possible 2022 gubernatorial hopeful Todd Ricketts was on yesterday’s Republican Party fly-around. And today, Rep. Jeanne Ives’ spokesperson Kathleen Murphy writes this in National Review

Ives’s candidacy demonstrated that Illinois Republicans gain ground quickly when they engage in ideological confrontation on cultural and economic issues.

Speaker Madigan and his machine may be powerful, but they are wholly unaccustomed to such confrontation from their Republican counterparts. Their ability to handle such an attack has never truly been tested.

ILGOP flacks might brush off the suggestion as “far-right extremism,” but Illinoisans know the difficulties they’re facing. For many, exhausted by the state’s onerous tax burden, lack of opportunity, and moral libertinism, an ILGOP with a strong contrasting vision, adherence to principle, revolutionary instincts, and simple grit would offer reason for optimism.
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There are no guarantees. But as conservative talk-show host Dan Proft puts it, “As long as we’re still here, we might as well fight.”

In Illinois, conservatives have to embrace these challenges for the opportunities they must be. Nationally, the revolt against the big-government “swamp” has been messy. But the ground we now hold is precious. If Illinois offers any lesson to conservatives, it is this: Never Surrender.

Thoughts?

- Posted by Rich Miller        

74 Comments »
  1. - DougChicago - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 9:58 am:

    Kill me


  2. - AlfondoGonz - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 9:58 am:

    Hopefully Ives and politicians like her are in history’s dustbin by 2022.


  3. - DuPage Saint - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:00 am:

    Actually I thought she might run for U S Senate against Durbin if he decides to run again. She might have a better chance


  4. - Former Downstater - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:00 am:

    “Ives’s candidacy demonstrated that Illinois Republicans gain ground quickly when they engage in ideological confrontation on cultural and economic issues.”

    They do realize that ground gained was just with Republican primary voters, right?


  5. - anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:02 am:

    Ives blew it and now she supports Rauner for re-election. Done with her.


  6. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:03 am:

    In 4 years, will anyone want the job?


  7. - Six Degrees of Separation - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:04 am:

    “Stay strong” - Bruce Rauner 2018.


  8. - Soccermom - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:05 am:

    Moral libertinism?


  9. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:05 am:

    Yeah, yeah, Trump can’t win, but I know a whole lot of Democrats who hope Ives is the nominee in 2022


  10. - anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:05 am:

    I’ve never seen anyone screw up as many races with as much money as Dan Proft. Republicans are screwed if this sorry ineptitude is all we have.


  11. - slow down - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:05 am:

    Delusional. It’s like they’ve never heard of Jim Edgar and Jim Thompson.

    A Republican party that focuses on fiscal conservatism and social moderation could be formidable. Rauner ran and won on that message.

    His failure was that he failed to govern as such.


  12. - Henry Francis - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:05 am:

    I like her chances in 2022.

    If she’s running against Rauner.


  13. - Natty_B - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:07 am:

    IMO surrender is the better option


  14. - Maestro - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:08 am:

    I doubt she can win. For all its faults, Illinois is a moderate state.


  15. - dbk - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:09 am:

    –If Illinois offers any lesson to conservatives, it is this: Never Surrender.–

    Sounds reminiscent of the Gov and his now-infamous Budget Standoff.

    Yeah, that worked out well.


  16. - danny - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:10 am:

    Never surrender? Ives said she is voting for Rauner. Isn’t that surrender?


  17. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:10 am:

    “On to Little Bighorn and victory….”

    Seriously, the Ives/Proft/IPI/Uihlein/Katrina/Kass kiddie-korps taking over the GOP? Silly, cranky children with gas cans playing with matches.

    Madigan wishes he could take credit for that crew and all their good work.


  18. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:11 am:

    I’m on board with Republicans trying out ultra right wing ideological confrontation in ‘20 and ‘22. Should work out well for them.


  19. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:11 am:

    Good news if Pritzker wins today.

    Ives would be out of elected politics (possibly) for 4 years, and her last record in elected office is Right of where a majority of Illinois voters have gone, less Peter Fitzgerald, defeating the most vulnerable senator in America, Carol Mosley Braun.


  20. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:11 am:

    But as conservative talk-show host Dan Proft puts it, “As long as we’re still have money, we might as well spend it.”

    Fixed it;)


  21. - Just me saying - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:11 am:

    Proft, Tillman, Ives will continue to make money hand over fist conning the right wing and Uhlein.

    It will be interesting to see how the Ricketts/Baise experiment moves forward.

    Assuming Rauner loses and the General Assembly maintains the same DEM/GOP ratio, it appears the battle within the GOP continues to be a battle of attrition and erosion.

    The only hope for the GOP is the Progressive movement does the same to the DEMS. UGH!!!


  22. - paddyrollingstone - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:14 am:

    Well played Anon221!

    I always get a kick out of tough guy talk-show hosts. The are so brave and inspiring!


  23. - SuburbanRepublican - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:16 am:

    Part of me wants Ives to be the nominee in 2022 so she will lose in a spectacular fashion and we can put an end to the non-sense of that segment of the Party and get back to basics.


  24. - Ole' Nelson - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:20 am:

    A perfect storm of mistakes and hubris made Jeanne relevant for a short period of time. Don’t mistake that with widespread support.


  25. - Chicagonk - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:20 am:

    If Erika Harold wins (or does well), I think she should try for 2022.


  26. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:21 am:

    Ives 2022. JB should be so lucky.


  27. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:21 am:

    Ives 2022: Vote as if your culture war depends on it.


  28. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:22 am:

    Ives 2022: Because Uehlein hasn’t wasted enough money on Dan Proft.


  29. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:23 am:

    That Ives-Art Jones ticket will sure engage in ideological confrontation on cultural and economic issues.


  30. - cdog - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:24 am:

    Ives vs Durbin (or any other dem if he decides to not run)? That works.

    Ives vs Pritzker? This works, too.

    She has shown she can stand up and fight for the values of freedom and personal responsibility.
    The politics of this century can be divided between those that think government should solve personal problems, and everyone else. This trend towards invasive statism has created too much dependence on government and ruins lives in the long run. Ives gets this and has a good voice to lead away from that disaster.


  31. - Nacho - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:26 am:

    ILGOP has to worry about an increasingly Trumpist base picking candidates who are completely unelectable in a statewide race.


  32. - Langhorne - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:30 am:

    Jeanne, you lost. Against the worst governor in america. Your “base” is a minority of a minority party.


  33. - Southfarmllama - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:33 am:

    Sounds interesting, but Harold does not want to play second fiddle, even against a business tycoon like Ricketts. She believe she is the main attraction, so I don’t see this working with her being on his ticket. The future of the IL GOP is going to be very interesting.


  34. - Moby - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:38 am:

    ==His failure was that he failed to govern as such.==

    He failed to govern at all.


  35. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:43 am:

    “They do realize that ground gained was just with Republican primary voters, right?“

    “Forget it, (s)he’s rolling”


  36. - slow down - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:43 am:

    No argument there Moby.


  37. - Last Bull Moose - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:45 am:

    Republicans can be small tent and irrelevant, or big tent and competitive. This is true on both the state and National levels. Imagine if we had President Kasich and Governor Dillard.

    We have chosen badly.


  38. - The Dude Abides - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:52 am:

    @Bull Moose Indeed, if Dillard had won that Primary he likely would be favored to win a second term tonight. Instead the GOP put forward an unknown with no experience, deep pockets and an agenda not acceptable to the majority of folks who call Illinois their home.


  39. - Stark - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 10:53 am:

    Ives: Bear with me here, but what if I tailor my entire campaign to appeal to minority bloc of the state’s voters as opposed to a majority of them in a first-past-the-post election format? She’s absolutely brilliant. /s


  40. - City Zen - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:02 am:

    Maybe Ives can bring Amazon HQ4 to Chicago.


  41. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:03 am:

    Put Ives against Durbin. DD can’t point to much, first elected in 1982, he has run his course in Congress.

    Talk about needing a change for Illinois.


  42. - Cream of Wheaton - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:15 am:

    Hey Jeanne, pass the crack pipe.


  43. - Generic Drone - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:17 am:

    Here is what Republicans need to understand. As an independent, I did not cast 1 single republican vote today. I can not support their agenda. They have totally lost touch with with any sense of obligation to the middle class.


  44. - cdog - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:20 am:

    Ives vs Durbin would be awesome.

    I would love to hear Durbin defend the looming Pentagon audit findings, predicted to contain “unpleasant findings,” since he has either been the ranking member or chair of the Senate Appropriations Defense Subcomittee.

    I doubt Miller will post this comment though…


  45. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:22 am:

    Ya Generic, the tax cut that put more money in your pocket and that unemployment rate and the fact you hardly hear about ISIS and the GDP mean nothing to the middle class.

    Good Grief


  46. - Annonin' - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:29 am:

    And in the meantime do we see the Commando and Single Mom behind the mike w orw/o TwoPiece?


  47. - In 630 - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 11:30 am:

    Oh Jeanne, just because the only people you allow near you have fringe opinions or fund people like you, doesn’t mean most of us think you are at all fit for office.


  48. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:00 pm:

    ===I would love to hear Durbin defend the looming Pentagon audit findings===

    Because the Ranking Democrat and/or Chair controls an Administration’s Pentagon. OK. Just say “Because Madigan” - it’s easier and about as salient.


  49. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:03 pm:

    ===Ya Generic, the tax cut that put more money in your pocket and that unemployment rate and the fact you hardly hear about ISIS and the GDP mean nothing to the middle class.===

    Pick-a-name - I assume based on this comment you don’t have a mortgage or pay property taxes? Or, if you do, talk to me about that “tax cut” after you file your taxes in the spring.


  50. - Steve - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:05 pm:

    By 2022 there might not be too many Republicans left in Illinois.


  51. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:06 pm:

    ===and the fact you hardly hear about ISIS ===

    They’re in the caravan, or so POTUS has repeatedly told us.

    What I do hear a lot about is white nationalist terrorists who sent bombs to prominent Democrats, killed 11 Jewish people in a synagogue, and racially-motivated killing in a Kroger in Kentucky. And that was just in the last two weeks.


  52. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:11 pm:

    –Ya Generic, the tax cut that put more money in your pocket…–

    Remind me of that after I fill out my Schedule A next year.

    And what do you “fiscal conservatives” call doubling the federal deficit in a growth economy? Bozo Keynesian? Drunken Sailorism?


  53. - Stumpy's bunker - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:16 pm:

    If there’s any combination of Ricketts, Ives and Harold in 2022, people who work for a living better not tear down the barricades after today; they best be reinforced.


  54. - Generic Drone - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:23 pm:

    @pick a name.

    Nah, I’m just smart enough to realize a back loaded scam when I see one like the republican tax plan. All they did was give more tax breaks for the wealthy in the ling run while trying to steal from SS to pay for it. Ya. Republicans really lookin out for middle class. You keep beliving that. By the way, I used to be a registered republican.


  55. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:32 pm:

    Yep, she “stands for something.”


  56. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:38 pm:

    =Moral libertinism?=

    That is a shot at the LGBTQ movement and the recognition they now have in Illinois. Pretty sad on the NAt Review.


  57. - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:38 pm:

    ==Moral libertinism?==

    What better way to grow a political party? “You’re all a bunch of moral libertines” certainly has a welcoming ring to it. Will definitely lead to millennials lining up around the block outside Ives/Breen rallies.


  58. - Cheryl44 - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:41 pm:

    ~you don’t have a mortgage or pay property taxes?~

    Or rent. Seriously, if you’re in your parent’s basement, they told me to tell you to throw the wash load into the dryer when it’s done.


  59. - Pick a Name - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:49 pm:

    Word, doubling the deficit???

    Nah, I think you are referring to the previous prez, who did that in 8 short years.


  60. - Amalia - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 12:59 pm:

    wow, we really will need legal weed via Pritzker if we have to deal with Ives again.


  61. - Honeybadger - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 1:10 pm:

    Ives has NO legislative accomplishments to speak of at all. Will her platform be the same as this past primary? More hatred is surely not the way to win a general election, maybe the GOP primary, but not a general election.


  62. - Top of the State - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 1:39 pm:

    Methinks that if Durban resigns/retires… it could be Rep Bustos for the Senate. That would be a tough challenge for Ives. She would need over 20% in Cook Co to have a chance using the Thompson math.


  63. - Flapdoodle - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 1:52 pm:

    ==Moral libertinism==

    Wow, Jeanne, where do I sign up? Though at my age, I’d probably throw my back out. Oh . . . wait a minute . . . you were actually being serious?? My bad.


  64. - Highland IL - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 1:56 pm:

    ====Ives’s candidacy demonstrated that Illinois Republicans gain ground quickly===

    Maybe with the Illinois Review crowd.


  65. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 2:01 pm:

    –Word, doubling the deficit???–

    Yes. Is the excessive punctuation supposed to indicate the depth of your ignorance?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/trump-budget-deficits-growing-big-spending-fiscal-irresponsibility/


  66. - Does anyone care - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 2:02 pm:

    Murphy-Proft-Ives. Aren’t they all one and the same?


  67. - NeverPoliticallyCorrect - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 2:11 pm:

    It rests on what the JB and his crew does during the next two years. Illinois is coming apart at the seams. Infrastructure is crumbling, population has not stabilized, government pension systems are in trouble, budgets (IL and Chicago are a joke), and social services are essentially non-existent. If the Dems decide to engage in good government then the Republicans are dead for another decade. But if all they do is raise taxes, bend over to government unions and don’t fix our most egregious problems the Republicans can attack and will get some traction. But not with Ives.


  68. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 2:30 pm:

    The deficit went from 3% of GDP in 2008 to 10% of GDP in 2009 due to the TARP bank bailouts. It then dropped every year till 2015 when the deficit was 2.4 of the GDP in 2015. It started creeping up again in 2016 to 3.2 % of GDP. So Obama’s net effect was a .2% increase, not double. For comparison 2019 will be 4.7% of the GDP, which is almost Reaganesque.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/11/04/federal-budget-deficit-2018-us-government/38319775/


  69. - Streamwood Retiree - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 3:02 pm:

    edog, Doesn’t Ives advocate the state intervening in the most personal decision a woman can make? Just to force her own religious beliefs on others?


  70. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 3:07 pm:

    She got her picture taken with Skillicorn in the White House House after all.


  71. - Peace, Love and Guitars - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 3:09 pm:

    The exact rhetoric most Illionians, and Americans are sick of hearing.


  72. - Does anyone care? - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 3:15 pm:

    Scary and interesting read and looks like he was correct about Rauner. http://www.chicagonow.com/kelly-truth-squad/2018/11/kelly-i-was-100-right-about-bruce-rauner/?fbclid=IwAR2NUbFdONo1qMduYWcUKbtyrvIocG_6K3i6a2YThbudZfi_QiHNEu7YQuA


  73. - ste_wit a v_en - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 4:16 pm:

    “Speaker Madigan and his machine may be powerful, but they are wholly unaccustomed to such confrontation from their Republican counterparts. Their ability to handle such an attack has never truly been tested.”
    Like that tea party wave in 2010?


  74. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 6, 18 @ 5:57 pm:

    –The politics of this century can be divided between those that think government should solve personal problems, and everyone else. –

    Thanks for clearing that up, Q.


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