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Illinois COVID-19 death rate in rural counties is now twice as high as metro areas

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller

* From the governor’s PowerPoint presentation today


       

40 Comments
  1. - Aron - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:29 pm:

    Its called an outbreak. It follows a bell shaped curve. None of these “mitigations” seem to change that. So why do them?


  2. - Thomas Paine - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:34 pm:

    @Aron - Please take your alternative science somewhere else. If you don’t know enough about mitigations to answer your own question, you should be on Facebook.


  3. - Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:35 pm:

    Gee, the death rates are higher where all the folk (around me especially) refuse to wear masks and all the bars are still open? What a shock…. It is absolutely crazy the amount of people who are going out of their way to be willingly and spectacularly ignorant when a big part of the solution is completely obvious.


  4. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:37 pm:

    No wonder Bailey and DeVore looked so red. It’s the blood they’ve been soaking in.


  5. - BilboSwaggins - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:39 pm:

    People in small towns and rural areas disproportionately refuse to wear masks, and one of the unfortunate trends we have seen so far is that even if you are exposed but wearing a mask, your viral load is lower. Places with more masked individuals have more mild cases on average.

    Viral load matters. Wear your mask.


  6. - Parler the impaler - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:45 pm:

    I am no Aron but while masks are a part of the equation, I suspect that the quality of medical care in rural areas might also be a factor.


  7. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:46 pm:

    Downstate Illinois and this need to flaunt the needed steps to save lives is now seeing the trailing indicator, death, in such tragic ways.

    If death can’t sway, and ‘Merica and Freedom means seeing these deaths as acceptable, how can we all work to fight this virus, the real enemy, not the enemy that is trying to save lives, the mask wearing.

    These are deaths that are part and parcel in concert with facebook posts of Wintour, in league with lawsuits by Bailey, the rhetoric of Halbrook, the zest for family power of Miller, the hubris of Caulkins.

    Make no mistake, those Eastern Bloc folks who clamor for leadership, when you show poor judgement during a pandemic, and your region shows spiking due to the choices you’d like to see… your leadership and wants aren’t helping this.

    Let’s hope some realization of the dangers start to be understood


  8. - Norseman - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:47 pm:

    The mitigations are not working because:

    1) the GOP has made a concentrated effort to undermine mitigation efforts;
    2) people are not taking the pandemic seriously or don’t believe it’s real;
    3) people don’t want to curtail their social activities;
    4) in addition to the perfidy of one party, we have elected and appointed officials who are too cowardly to enforce mitigation measures; and
    5) people are tired of complying with mitigation.

    Mitigation works when people comply.


  9. - Higgs - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:50 pm:

    Mask or no mask I’m still supporting my local bars. Yet to catch covid. Pretty decent specials these days.


  10. - Moe Berg - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:51 pm:

    What @Norseman said ^


  11. - Candy Dogood - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:53 pm:

    As we say around here, elections have consequences.


  12. - very old soil - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:53 pm:

    It doesn’t have to be this way

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/15/packed-crowds-and-euphoric-leaders-australia-revels-in-covid-free-days


  13. - Anon - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:55 pm:

    Looks like these health disparities and death rates may be more related to income and education than race…makes sense.


  14. - AC - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 3:58 pm:

    ==Mask or no mask I’m still supporting my local bars. Yet to catch covid. Pretty decent specials these days.==

    If you do catch it, could you please avoid the healthcare system? Those of us who are doing what we are supposed to may need healthcare in case our appendix bursts, or we have an accident, or some other emergency happens.


  15. - Higgs - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:02 pm:

    AC, sure. Do I need to sign any paperwork?


  16. - illdoc - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:02 pm:

    It can be discouraging.. its a virus…. its not red vs blue, or urban vs rural When people get together in groups less then 6 feet apart without masks bad things happen. Use some sense, wear a mask


  17. - 13th Ward Worker - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:17 pm:

    - Norseman -

    Some people got excited about Joe Biden winning in Chicago. Even Lori Lightfoot says you sometimes have to let off steam and celebrate on MSNBC. Even JB was seen going to a celebration. This is a strange virus. There seems to be no fear of transmission as social justice gatherings.


  18. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:18 pm:

    === There seems to be no fear of transmission as social justice gatherings.===

    If your ignorance was remotely true, folks like the governor woulda been maskless.

    Many didn’t. Use the Google. The pictures say otherwise.


  19. - Huh? - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:21 pm:

    There was a recent USA Today article from South Dakota about people as they were dying, were denying their diagnosis of covid19.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/17/south-dakota-nurse-jodi-doering-covid-19-patients-denial/6330791002/


  20. - 13th Ward Worker - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:23 pm:

    When urban people have mass gatherings it’s alright. But, everyone else please social distance. Very strange virus.


  21. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:25 pm:

    === When urban people have mass gatherings it’s alright. But, everyone else please social distance. Very strange virus.===

    It’s like… ignorance… and reading comprehension… do go hand in hand.

    Is urban code for anything, or is your vocabulary limited to words 5 letters or less?


  22. - 13th Ward Worker - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:31 pm:

    If everyone would just social distance, Michigan Avenue might not have faced the property damage it did. Rules are for little people.


  23. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:33 pm:

    === Michigan Avenue might not have faced the property damage===

    We’re talking about deaths in rural Illinois, not racial divisions that you must “think” are contributing to those rural deaths.

    Thanks for letting me know.


  24. - Jocko - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:36 pm:

    ==Very strange virus.==

    Unlike you, the virus doesn’t discriminate.


  25. - Northside Bill - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:36 pm:

    Seeing JB walking to a Biden celebration was inspirational. A man of science leading a progressive city. JB knows progressive mass meetings are just fine.


  26. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:37 pm:

    === Unlike you, the virus doesn’t discriminate.===

    You win. Top shelf.


  27. - Tom Keen's Property Lawyer - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:45 pm:

    Gathering in church bad. Granny’s funeral bad. Weddings in church bad. Wal-Mart good. Pot dispensary good. MAGA meeting bad. Joe Biden celebration great. George Floyd rally great. Women’s march great. School bad. High schools sports bad. Concerts bad. Bizarre virus.


  28. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:49 pm:

    === MAGA meeting bad===

    No one stopped them. Not once.


  29. - Tom Keen's Property Lawyer - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:52 pm:

    I apologize for leaving out the best: in Nevada church bad; renting room in casino for church services just fine.


  30. - Fixer - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:57 pm:

    It’s almost like folks were given a chance to fix this themselves and still managed to royally mess it up. Your rallies went on unhindered, nobody stopped church services… And these deaths are a result of that. Stop blaming Chicago for your community’s failings.

    Sincerely, a down stater.


  31. - all luck - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:58 pm:

    If I see one more meme about Walmart being safe I may lose my mind.

    Nobody ever said it was safe. Many small towns including my hometown it is literally the only grocery store. People need to be able to buy food. Going to Walmart is a risk but literally not eating until covid is over is not a choice.


  32. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 4:59 pm:

    Let’s look at the mouth breathing, hopefully with a mask;

    “Gathering in church bad.
    Granny’s funeral bad.
    Weddings in church bad.”

    The gatherings, inside, and singing, those are putting others, that’s others, at risk.

    Weddings, sadly funerals, and worship can be done via Zoom.
    Look at “The Sermon on the Mount” about the necessity for groups and prayer.

    Wal-Mart good.
    Pot dispensary good.

    Food, and medicinal items, even if many others see both as recreational, are still necessaries. Because rural areas only have Wal-Mart, you want them to starve?

    MAGA meeting bad.
    Joe Biden celebration great.

    … and yet neither are stopped. In actuality, both were put on without incident.

    George Floyd rally great.
    Women’s march great.

    Hatred towards people or color or angst towards a gender is a personal issue. I can’t help with that, but I wish you luck all the same.

    School bad.
    High schools sports bad.
    Concerts bad.

    Teachers, custodians, administrators, coaches, referees, umpires, officials, even the ridiculousness of parents needing to live thru their kids, events like these are unable to be safe

    I cite the NBA, NHL bubbles, and the NCAA having this necessary need to have its own “March Madness” a term coined in Illinois, is taking a bubble for its entire basketball tournament, 64+ teams… and you want sports?

    Did I cover it all, can we discuss the downstate crisis and trying to get downstate safer?


  33. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 5:00 pm:

    === in Nevada===

    Let’s stick with your Illinois grievances.


  34. - cermak_rd - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 5:12 pm:

    While I agree that both underlying health issues (age, obesity other aggravating factors for corona) as well as health systems availability is worse in rural areas, this was all known. This was all published. If anything rural people ought to be being MORE careful of theirs and their neighbor’s health than anyone else.


  35. - filmmaker prof - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 5:22 pm:

    You forgot - Sturgis Rally good.


  36. - DuPage Moderate - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 5:24 pm:

    Ah, another day of logging on and reading Oswego Willy’s blog. Always so measured and accepting of differing opinions.

    What a joke.


  37. - Jibba - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 5:53 pm:

    When an opinion is willfully ignorant, expect to be called on it.


  38. - Druid - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 6:16 pm:

    -Dupage Moderate-

    OW doesn’t want to be confused with facts


  39. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 6:19 pm:

    === doesn’t want to be confused with facts===

    When you decide to share them, lemme know.


  40. - crazybleedingheart - Wednesday, Nov 18, 20 @ 8:07 pm:

    If you behave the same way in church and at Walmart, you have a terrible Walmart and an even worse church.


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