Heck no. Gov. Rauner doesn’t give two &*@$s about what Pres. Obama says, does, thinks, opines, cares, knows, etc. etc. Gov. Rauner is not going to give up the Turnaround Agenda because the President of the United States came to town.
No, neither side will move. The Repubs are too entrenched behind Rauner and the Dems are too entrenched in their cause. Obama will talk a good game and people will talk bi-partisan but in the end it won’t be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Going to say yes. He will come in and talk about the importance of redistricting reform, and since the Republicans are naturally inclined to say no to everything the President wants, it will get dropped from the Turnaround Agenda by April.
But in all seriousness, no. The Governor is not going to be moved by whatever he has to say, and the Speaker is not really a fan of the President. (Remembering when he said “the Messiah hasn’t called me yet” when asked if he was going to endorse Alexi)
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Rauner will use it support redistricting reform and identify with POTUS facing a hostile legislative branch.
Madigan will use it support social programs and identify with POTUS calls for social welfare.
Rauner and Madigan’s ==war== will continue, in contrast to the President’s speech.
I think it might in a backdoor sort of way. I think his speech will focus primarily on the problems in Chicago; crimes, education, debt, etc. To address those issues, you need a budget. The President will have to offer suggestions on how to achieve those goals.
In Illinois, no. However, the symbolism of coming to Abraham Lincoln’s home a few days before his birthday to likely give a speech on the ill effects of partisanship and it’s divisiveness could get some people thinking nationally.
There’s no honor in what they’re doing anymore. At some point, someone in Springfield needs to step up.
Both sides will only hear the parts they already agree with. Obama might not have all that much to say about the IL budget impasse. It’s not a national issue. Could just as well be about, for example, gun deaths in Chicago, whether from police or between citizens. Those are subjects he’s already pushing.
I wish it would make a difference but sadly, I said no.
Rauner wants to do what he wants to do. He has an agenda and he is sticking to it. He is certain that he is right and no one is going to change is mind.
Well heck yeah! Ever since the passing of Obamacare, DC has been free of any partisan bickering & devoid of any gridlock. Certainly this President should come and offer his insights and pass along his experiences.
P.S. Incidentally, have some here forgotten where Obama honed his craft?
I voted “Yes, it could” because at this point nothing else is left. The state has put the elderly and infirmed on the street, placed young children back into harm’s way, and turned its collective back on every citizen, rural or urban, of the state.
Jesus, Mohammed and the Buddha could descend on a fiery cloud in Rauner’s office and Rauner would immediately call security because these guys obviously don’t run in his circle of billionaires (look at how they’re dressed) and because all three are probably pretty firm believers in unions.
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No chance. If the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost came to talk about bipartisanship Rauner would dismiss them as “Mike Madigan and the deities he controls.”
Obama hates almost everything heavy-fisted Madigan stands for politically, and disliked him when in the Senate. He can’t wait to move elsewhere after his Presidency. He’s more likely to ding Madigan than Rauner.
No; I just can’t think of a mechanism in which it would, unless, as mentioned above, he came bearing gifts.
It would be great if he did, but also sort of embarrassing, since that’d mean a speech and meet-and-greet would mean more than an unfunded higher education system and a collapsing human-services system. I’ll take what I can get, but geez.
I voted no. I don’t believe that Rauner cares what the President has to say. He certainly does not share the President Obama’s social views. However, if the President starts dropping his g’s, maybe Rauner will listen.
LOL- this president has been perhaps the most divisive figure in American politics in the last 100 years so how is it he would be coming to Illinois to bring people together. The presidents legacy is all he care about and it is in his interest to keep politics at a boil thru November. To help keep his base exercised so they vote
Until we have a better idea of what he’s going to say, it’s really pointless to speculate about any potential effect he might have. It’s rather an unprecedented move, so the message definitely matters.
Nope. It will be a nice cordial visit. And then it will be over. He’ll provide a break for a day. If something is already cooking by then, maybe it will help. But otherwise, just don’t see it making any difference in this regard.
The only people that will be paying attention to Obama will be the people that already like him, aka the Democrats. Everyone will be polite and agree that the whole thing needs to end, but then it’ll go back to the status quo the next day.
Obama has a better chance cracking the gridlock in his final year in D.C. than he does in Springfield, in the sense that something that won’t happen in a million years is more likely than something that won’t happen in a billion years.
I voted no because I don’t think his appearance alone will move things. But I am glad to know we have his attention and I am praying that the few things that can be done by the feds to put pressure on this hostage situation will be done and soon. His visit gives me a little more hope today that perhaps federal pressure is coming.
He could come in and talk about redistricting and term limits but he won’t, because he’s here to help the side that doesn’t want that.
He could talk about McDonald, but he won’t throw his buddy under the bus.
My guess is it’s like most of his speeches, lots of broad talk about things everyone agrees with and coming together without ever saying anything specific. Maybe he talks about violence and how other states could follow Illinois’ lead with universal background checks for gun purchases (which we kind of have) or push for some kind of new gun control that isn’t going anywhere (assault weapon ban?).
Or he just says enough to fire up the base and keep them strong and together with Madigan through November.
But what if he comes to announce he’s pardoning Blago??!! That would give us all something else to focus on and be the news story of the year. How much more entertaining would the stalemate be with Rod free and out giving interviews?
It’s all on Madigan. You remember. The guy who would derisively refer to Obama as “the Messiah” back in 2007-08. The guy who is smarter than everyone else. Who has all the answers. Rauner, who won statewide office, has shown a willingness to compromise on so many issues. Madigan, frozen in amber thanks to a few thousand voters, will not move.
- Republicans break with Rauner
- Dems break with Madigan
- Rauner & Madigan embrace Jesus as their personal savior
The only path that’s even open to Obama is the first one - somehow rallying a group of Democrats to a new compromise position. I’m not saying he can, will or should do that. I’d be surprised if he saw that as a desirable outcome. But President Obama is irrelevant at best, or counterproductive to the other two ways out.