Afternoon roundup
Wednesday, Oct 18, 2023 - Posted by Rich Miller * Um, not really…
1) According to the polling memo itself, the program is supported by Illinoisans 56-25, not “two-thirds.” 2) We don’t know the wording of the poll’s support or oppose question because it was not in the polling memo. 3) Here are the pros and cons presented to respondents…
The donations qualify for a 75 percent state income tax credit. That’s money the state would’ve normally received.
* From Sen. Durbin…
* WAND TV…
* Update on yesterday’s story…
* Isabel’s roundup… * WBEZ | St. Louis groups seek to resettle Chicago migrants to boost workforce and population: The nonprofit International Institute of St. Louis is partnering with unions and philanthropic leaders to resettle hundreds — if not thousands — of Latin American migrants in their city. The goal is to bolster St. Louis’s workforce and stem its population decline. “It could be the potential for a great relationship between both cities,” said Karlos Ramirez, vice president of Latino outreach for the International Institute. “If the [migrants] are going to be in a better place, St. Louis is going to be in a better place, and Chicago is going to be in a better place, I think everybody wins.” * Block Club | At South Side Garden, Migrant Families Build A Community As ‘Burned Out’ Volunteers Ask For Help: There are 24 tents at the garden, 1812 W. Monterey Ave., sheltering roughly 100 asylum seekers. […] “You can only work it strongly for a few weeks at a time,” said Kathy Figel, director of the Edna White Community Garden, where the overflow of asylum seekers from the station have been sheltering in tents. “Then they have to take a break. That’s what happened to a lot of volunteers [who helped out in the summer.]” The city, Figel said, hasn’t provided anything. All funds and support has come from volunteers and even her own personal funds. * ABC Chicago | Alderman visiting Mexican border says disaster declaration needed to better help Chicago migrants: Among their first stops were shelters in El Paso run by nonprofits to help better establish connections between organizations in the Lone Star State and in the Windy City. But, even on their first day to the southern border, these city leaders are saying it is obvious that more help from the federal government is absolutely crucial. * NYT | Texas Has Bused 50,000 Migrants. Now It Wants to Arrest Them Instead.: Mr. Abbott is now pursuing an even more audacious effort: to change Texas law to make crossing the border from Mexico without authorization a state crime, allowing the police in Texas to arrest people coming across the Rio Grande, including asylum seekers. * NYT | Gov. J.B. Pritzker of Illinois Starts Group to Promote Abortion Rights: A spokeswoman for Think Big America said the group was providing “financial and strategic support” to the campaigns in Ohio, Arizona and Nevada, including putting members on advisory boards, helping to develop messaging and analyzing polls. She added that it was also prepared to help with direct voter contact and, if applicable, legal challenges. * Capitol News Illinois | Assault weapon registration period remains open as Illinois State Police seeks further input: ISP says it plans to hold additional public hearings about that process and may refine the rules before they become permanent next year. “We are happy to address all questions and comments submitted to ISP and will be doing so in the weeks to come,” ISP said in a statement this week. * WGEM | JCAR members bash DCFS, reject daycare rule proposal: “We need daycares to get people back to work after COVID,” said Rep. Dave Vella, D-Rockford. “We need daycares to make sure that our kids are taken care of and not in unapproved places. We need just need daycares and, not just the rule, but the whole system has been very frustrating.” * Block Club | Chicago Top Cop Larry Snelling Says Technology Is ‘No. 1 Way’ To Fix Crime: “Officers have a focus” on using technology like license plate readers to identify drivers and stolen cars, which are often then used to commit more crimes, Snelling said. The department is also using “technology across borders” to identify people who travel between city police districts to commit robberies — a “pattern” leaders have noticed, Snelling said. * Sun-Times | Slain Palestinian American boy remembered: ‘We are Plainfield strong; we are here for Wadea’: “Tonight is to celebrate the life of this child and make sure that this does not happen again,” said Mohammed Faheem, president of American Muslims Assisting Neighbors, the Plainfield nonprofit that organized the vigil. “This is to express our solidarity as one community. Plainfield is a very welcoming community, and we want to make sure that people understand that.” * Shaw Local | Thousands attend vigil in Plainfield for slain Muslim boy: Nearly two thousand turned out in Plainfield Tuesday night to mourn the slaying of a Muslim boy and to oppose the hatred and prejudice that authorities said motived the attack on him and his mother. […] Wadea’s father Oday Al-Fayoume and several others spoke at the vigil. Among them was Zaki Basalath, of the Islamic Foundation of the Southwest Suburbs. * Tribune | Lawyers for ex-assistant state’s attorneys standing trial criticize handling of third Jackie Wilson trial in heated questioning of special prosecutors: The trial entered its second day Tuesday at the Rolling Meadows branch court in northwest suburban Cook County, with Wilson’s special prosecutors Lawrence Rosen and Myles O’Rourke taking the stand for hours. Rosen and O’Rourke dropped charges against Wilson after learning about Trutenko’s longtime friendship and recent contact with a witness they had been unable to locate. * Fox Chicago | $5 million in grants to help Cook County domestic violence victims: The grants were awarded to local nonprofits as part of the Cook County Domestic Violence Intervention and Support Services Initiative. Preckwinkle said the grants will change lives. “We cannot let these patterns continue,” Preckwinkle said. “This Domestic Violence Awareness Month we are making an important investment to disrupt this trend. We’re investing in programs and services that provide critical support to survivors and their families.” * ABC Chicago | Cook County domestic violence survivor center opens in Markham: The new facility is located in the basement of the Cook County Circuit Court Building in Markham, and it is out of public view. The center includes a private and comfortable space for victims to meet with advocates, a space for Zoom hearings and a children’s area. * PJ Star | Peoria City Council debates new $321 million proposed budget. Here’s what we know: The new budget proposed to the council by City Manager Patrick Urich and Finance Director Kyle Cratty for 2024 would have $321.8 million in spending — an increase of 5.4% from 2023. […] A major source of the revenue decline for 2024 is coming from a loss 26% decrease in corporate income and a 20% decrease in real estate transaction taxes and “some level of financial pullback in the economy.” * Block Club | Chicago State Unveils $250 Million Plan For 95th Street: The economic development plan targets 95th Street between King Drive and Cottage Grove Avenue. The plan recommends several projects on vacant land with a focus on adding to the community’s housing and retail options and improving pedestrian experiences, among other points. * Shaw Local | After McHenry rejects gravel mine, industry tries to show elected officials its benefits to county: In August, the McHenry City Council rejected a controversial plan to annex a proposed gravel mine to the city. On Thursday, the same business owner who submitted that proposal, Jack Pease, joined McHenry County officials for a tour of gravel pits. * SJ-R | Downtown Springfield Inc. holds 30th annual awards ceremony, dinner Wednesday: Downtown Springfield Inc. will hold its 30th annual awards and dinner at the Bank of Springfield (BoS) Center at 6:30 p.m. Wednesday. Springfield Mayor Misty Buscher will give her first State of Downtown address. It is DSI’s major fundraiser to support its work to revitalize downtown. * Crain’s | Fulton Market developer ditches luxury condo plan in favor of ‘modern social bathhouse’: It’s a sign that even the hot Fulton Market area isn’t immune to slowing condo demand in Chicago. The city’s condo market has been hit hard in the 2020s, with the slower-than-expected return of office workers and downtown draws like theaters struggling to regain pre-pandemic activity levels, as well as the perception that crime is out of control in and around downtown. * Streetsblog | Pedestrian fatally struck at Chicago/DLSD, which has stoplights, but no east-west crosswalks: According to the preliminary police report, on Tuesday, October 17, at about 5:25 a.m., two men were attempting to cross DLSD on foot on the 800 North block. The police report mentions that the men were “not in a crosswalk.”This intersection has stoplights in all directions to accommodate drivers entering and leaving the drive. But there are no east-west crosswalks here because pedestrians aren’t supposed to cross to and from the lake at this location. That must be confusing to some Chicago visitors trying to walk to the lakefront from Streeterville. * Crain’s | Hyde Park is the world’s 19th-coolest neighborhood: “Notable for being the home of the University of Chicago and President Barack Obama, Hyde Park embodies the spirit of a small town while providing all the amenities of a bustling metropolis,” according to Time Out’s sixth annual list, published Tuesday. * Esquire | The DOJ Is Cracking Down on the Dumbest Form of Climate Denialism: These are the folks driving the big rigs who have adapted their vehicles to belch as much carbon waste product as they can produce. It’s is an own-the-libs deal, as you’ve probably guessed. I gotcher climate change right here, Snowflake. Whoo-hoo! Mercy sakes alive, looks like we’ve got ourselves a cloud bank.
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- H-W - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:03 pm:
Re: Survey
=== We got our hands on some exclusive polling ===
That tells me all I need to know.
- H-W - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:10 pm:
Re: WBEZ story on St. Louis, I have to wonder if the Governor of MO and the Legislature and Courts might step in to prevent this reasonable solution. Missouri is not Illinois. They do some crazy stuff over there.
- Donnie Elgin - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:13 pm:
“the program is supported by Illinoisans 56-25″
that includes JB way back in Oct 2022 when he was candidate Pritzker…
The Chicago Sun-Times and WBEZ asked 19 questions of the three gubernatorial candidates on the Nov. 8 ballot in an effort to easily show voters the differences among them.
14. Do you support Illinois’ tax credit scholarship program that provides financial support for students to attend private and parochial schools? YES
https://chicago.suntimes.com/elections/2022/10/18/23409566/19-questions-candidates-illinois-governor-pritzker-bailey-schluter-wbez-suntimes-issues
- Southern IL Bob Too - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:18 pm:
Missouri has a long and rich history of immigration….
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/476408-missouri-governor-says-state-will-accept-refugees/
- West Sider - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:22 pm:
It’s never about helping kids. It’s always about financially starving public schools- or more precisely their unionized teachers. Every single time.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:27 pm:
The Invest in Kids scheme is based on two important prongs;
The maximizing of a tax credit to maximize donations
The students being mere “vessels” to private schools already teaching the same students (at times) but getting “full value” for the seat.
That’s it.
It’s not about actual school choice, as not all students will have the exact opportunity to attend, and if the same altruism existed, we’d already hear about the heroes that won’t let down these students, “no matter what Springfield does”
It’s odd no one talks about how this will hurt the schools. Why is that.
I mean, if it’s a net zero for the schools… but it’s not. It’s getting full “value of price” for students who may be getting “work to school” kind of donations from families or discounts…
Won’t someone think about the private schools?
- Donnie Elgin - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:31 pm:
“more precisely their unionized teachers”
The program helps kids from families in poverty, IEA wants to make it about race.
https://ieanea.org/2023/10/17/illinois-education-association-statement-on-new-invest-in-kids-act-proposal/
““We believe the new Invest in Kids voucher scheme proposal acknowledges that more white students have been helped by the program than anyone else, even though proponents have tried to tout the program as helping Black and Brown students”
- Big Dipper - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:31 pm:
=that includes JB way back in Oct 2022==
Intelligent people often change their minds when they learn more about a topic.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:34 pm:
=== The program helps kids from families in poverty, IEA wants to make it about race.===
Cite the truth to that. Not in words.
- cover - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:36 pm:
=that includes JB way back in Oct 2022=
It’s possible that he supported the program as it exists (with its scheduled sunset date) but opposed an extension into 2024.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:44 pm:
===It’s possible that he supported===
The dude has literally been all over the map on this one.
- DTownResident - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:46 pm:
Inveat in Kid donations would be tax exempt donatios if they didn’t get bonus money from the state. Nothing to prevent that or . Empower Illinois is doing some heavy lobbying and also attacking others that are not as bad as they say. Their take on IAR is just as dishonest as A nation at risk was. If they
- DTownResident - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:53 pm:
Thought I had written more before. There is not any reason why Empower couldn’t still administer this as a tax deductible private scholarship treated equally as other school donations.
- Drury's Missing Clock - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:55 pm:
Maybe whatever school the pollster went to taught biblical passages instead of math and science.
- Anyone Remember - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:56 pm:
“The program helps kids from families in poverty … .”
As long as they don’t have physical / developmental issues, require an IEP, require ADA accomodations, or need a full-time aide.
- TheInvisibleMan - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:56 pm:
“Won’t someone think about the private schools?”
Gotcha covered.
There certainly seems to be a new push for it coming from somewhere.
One of the city council members in Joliet was making statements about it during a council meeting last night, 1hr27m42s in the video of the meeting. He stated he attended an informational meeting at a diocese school and then asked out loud if the city council could invite someone from the diocese to give a presentation to the city during a council meeting.
- DTownResident - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:01 pm:
“The program helps kids from families in poverty … .”. as long as it is a small percentage so that it is not enough kids that the other kids in the school look for another school. Also, diner have actual data on how the kids are performing…easy to claim “success” when you only have data for the “other”. When Indiana kept track their kids in the voucher program did worse than their peers even four or five years into the private school. U of I people who did more extensive research determined when you accounted for income differences, private school kids did slightly better in English and slightly worse in math. Not sure most of what we call differences are not mostly demographics c and rather than the teachers and such.
- Donnie Elgin - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:06 pm:
” the pollster went to taught biblical passages instead of math and science”
I would blame the miscalculation on the POLITICO writer, not the pollster. The polling memo is correct about the 2/3 of Black and Latino respondents…
• A majority of voters support the Invest in Kids Scholarship Tax Credit program, including more than 2/3 of voters of color. Support is broad and encompasses voters across the state and regardless of race or income: Total Support Total Oppose Net Total 56 25 +31 Parents 58 22 +36 Black 66 14 +52 Latino 74 17 +5
- Nearly Normal - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:15 pm:
I am a retired public school employee and a product of the Catholic schools. My class of ‘66 members support a scholarship program at our high school. Any donations are tax deductible. I know both public and private schools need more money. My former school employer is in Central Illinois (not BloNo) covering a lot of farmland and a couple manufacturers. The tax base is not the same as the suburbs. I understand that they can’t keep asking the locals for property tax increases.
- Donnie Elgin - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:31 pm:
“My class of ‘66 members support a scholarship program at our high school”
That is commendable - the Invest in Kids program allows individuals to make donations to a scholarship-granting organization - which opens up opportunities for less well-off families to choose to attend one of the hundreds of private/parochial schools that may help their kids.
- Jocko - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:34 pm:
AR @ 3:56 is on it.
Don’t forget discipline problems. I’d love to see the crosstabs on ‘invested kids’ being athletes.
- TinyDancer(FKASue) - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:43 pm:
The logical progression of the Invest in Kids Act is the end of the public school system.
And I don’t think that’s what most people want.
But that’s where it’s heading.
- H-W - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 5:12 pm:
@ Jocko
I’d like to see a crosstab on poverty/not poverty.
- JS Mill - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 5:46 pm:
@Nearly Normal for the win.
=“We believe the new Invest in Kids voucher scheme proposal=
That is the proper description.
And…any school that gets public money should have to follow every word or the Illinois School Code.
- loyal virus - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 6:24 pm:
And what exactly does a modern, social bathhouse look like exactly?
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 7:16 pm:
===look like exactly? ===
Click the link.